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Speculation: 2025 TDL Discussion

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Conditions form yesterday's 3-team trade involving Tampa, Seattle and Detroit. I wonder how many people are in the room going over these trade conditions when they are discussing a potential deal.



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i was just going to post that the best way to know if a deal has gone down is if this site wont load vs twitter or other
 
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At this point we're basically 24 hours from the trade deadline and so far all we have to go off of is essentially:
  • Kings are interested in Rantanen
    • But that interest may have cooled off as off this morning
  • Kings are interested in Alex Tuch
    • But Tuch is probably unavailable unless you massively overpay
  • Kings are interested in Rickard Rakell
    • Who also might not even be available unless you overpay
Meanwhile Edmonton has already made a trade. Vegas has already made a trade. Colorado has already made multiple trades. Dallas added Granlund and definitely isn't done yet. The Wild have made a trade.

Once again we're watching Rob Blake sit on his hands while the rest of the conference improves their rosters.
 
shuchukfan said:
I am 100% OK with that. The alternative scares me.
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I feel this. The alternative is definitely very scary.

Would still like to see Blake do SOMETHING. Big name hunting is probably a bad idea especially with the prices we're seeing for this deadline but throw a pick and a prospect somewhere for a middle 6 scoring winger. Throw a mid-round pick to a team for an upgrade at 4C.

Can still improve this roster without giving up a 1st, Clarke, Spence, Greentree, etc.
AbsentMojo said:
Maybe BS since going to rival (FLA).. i could see Blake getting bent over here on a false bidding war

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Oh boy.... please let FLA be the ones to overpay. PLEASE.

They're legit contenders trying to win now. If they sacrifice their future for a guy like Rantanen, that's fine. If the Kings do it, it could be catastrophic.
 
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King'sPawn said:
Clarke can certainly improve, and his quality of play has gone down. But I genuinely think the Kings have a habit of getting in their own way with prospects, particularly skilled ones.

Clarke was great at the start of the season. But once his risky plays were called out (even when there weren't catastrophic consequences), his quality of play dipped.

If you want a player like Clarke, you have to let him be Clarke. Don't try to turn him into Faber. You try to improve areas of the game to complement his style. Or you're wasting everyone's time.

When McLellan was coach, he had the right buzzwords but didn't exactly follow through with it, in my opinion. It was something to the effect of "play your game, but in my system."

I'm concerned the Kings are going to trade valuable prospects, possibly Clarke, for another "go for it" run. And I question the org's ability to do anything meaningful in the playoffs with whatever they get.
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The reality is, they never wanted that.

I remember thinking to myself, "what are they doing?" as each inexplicable and unorthodox development decision was made with the high picks.

No other team would have pulled Turcotte after the season he had at UW, why did the Kings?
Teams almost always put their players taken as high as QB in the NHL, why didn't the Kings?
Players of Clarke's draft pedigree with the season he had at age 19 always make the NHL at 20, why didn't he?

The answer should be clear as day by now, it was never about maximizing these guys ceilings for the next generation of LA Kings hockey, it was about getting them to Ontario and churning them out to be good system players for Anze Kopitar and Drew Doughty's LA Kings. @bland has been arguing this point for years now, and many people pushed back on him for it, but he was 100% correct, it was always about Kopitar and Doughty, and it still is, even as each guy is closer to 40 than they are to 30.

The players who don't play the type of defense everything hockey are moved on from (Vilardi, Kaliyev, with perhaps Clarke next) and the player with control to block the AHL BS, (Faber) was also moved from. With Faber and Vilardi escaping the insane asylum to develop into star players for their new teams.
 
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Reaves is a clown, but I would totally take him for if/when the Kings play Edmonton in the first round. If they're going to take penalties, may as well hurt the Oilers in the process.
 
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Let's just throw Boston a 3rd and Moore for Morgan Geekie and throw Utah a 4th for Nick Bjugstad and call it a day.

Geekie - Kopitar - Kempe
Fiala - Byfield - Laf
Turcotte - Danault - Foegele
Jeannot - Bjugstad - Lewis

Gavrikov - Doughty
Anderson - Spence
Edmundson - Clarke
Moverare

Still improves the team and addresses needs but doesn't mortgage too much of the future to do so.

Then you can make additional moves in the offseason, especially if the team comes up short in the playoffs again (trade Doughty at 25% retained).
 
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