2025 Summer Transfer Rumors and Discussion Closed Window

[JeffreyLFC]

They did that already. The name is Mason Mount. EPL proven. Stamped and delivered.

There is a difference between 'EPL Proven' and succesful purchase. Mbeumo for instance has proven to be way better than Mount over a prolonged period of time. I know Mount has his fans in the Chelsea fanbase but to me he was already one of the most overrated player in the EPL a bit like James Maddison right now. So there are no surprise that he flopped.

It's also getting good consistent player from the EPL not just a player that has some good moments.

Anyway it seems like Man United are targetting EPL players this summer from Cunha, Mbeumo and Mateta (rumored) it seems like they do want instant results and not recruit some foreign players with tons of potential but that might be risker.

 

[Evilo]

There is a difference between 'EPL Proven' and succesful purchase. Mbeumo for instance has proven to be way better than Mount over a prolonged period of time. I know Mount has his fans in the Chelsea fanbase but to me he was already one of the most overrated player in the EPL a bit like James Maddison right now. So there are no surprise that he flopped.

Your entire claim is that EPL proven = successful purchase.
Mount was considered a top player for Chelsea. He has crashed.

 

[luiginb]

There is a difference between 'EPL Proven' and succesful purchase. Mbeumo for instance has proven to be way better than Mount over a prolonged period of time. I know Mount has his fans in the Chelsea fanbase but to me he was already one of the most overrated player in the EPL a bit like James Maddison right now. So there are no surprise that he flopped.

Maddison is class, he just can't stay healthy. The few seasons he was, he was his team's best player. His level of creativity is rare for an English lad.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Your entire claim is that EPL proven = successful purchase.
Mount was considered a top player for Chelsea. He has crashed.

Wtf, never claimed that. What is this? There are MANY terrible players in the EPL. I said, it is easier for EPL players to ADAPT and have a QUICKER impact to the team success.

We could go what about this player or that player for both side. Manchester United have recruited massively outside the EPL the past few windows and they have not found success either : Antony, Sancho, Hojlund, Onana. All of them had relative success abroad but they could not replicate that form in the EPL.

Players like Bowden or Mbeumo are not top tier players but they are very good, reliable players that have shown consistency and effort for years now.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Maddison is class, he just can't stay healthy. The few seasons he was, he was his team's best player. His level of creativity is rare for an English lad.

I do not like how inconsistent he is and I would rather have a player that show consistent effort over 50% of good games and other terrible games but that might be just me.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Anyway Mbeumo I rate him a lot and it sucks as LFC perspective that he will join Manchester United.

 

[Brookbank]

Ratcliffe just sunk to his knees somewhere.

Nonsense. Saudi wanted to buy Bruno. Bruno was not for sale. Amorim said they want to keep Bruno.

 

[Brookbank]

The thing about when someone points out Liverpool bought Premier League players, this is where I have to point out that we were never this bad. It also wasn’t our first idea to buy those players. We wanted to buy Gotze and settled for someone else. They are trying to buy players from a completely different shop window. Cunha and Mbuemo are good players who had good numbers but those numbers never turned into results. You think you put them together it could go great, it could go horribly wrong too.

Wolves goal was to avoid a relegation battle which they did. Brentford finished 10th in the league. They finished 16th the year before.

United have been recruiting outside the premier league for years, with very limited success. Now they recruit from the top 10 of the Premier league and you're concern trolling about it ?

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Mount flopped because he played basically every minute for Chelsea and England from 2019 to 2022, including deep runs in both the Champions League and the Euros.

He struggled badly with injuries in 2022-23 (mainly tried to play through it, ineffectively), and has consistently struggled with injuries since joining United in 2023.

The fee United paid for Mount was stupid because he struggled with injuries that year, he only had a year on his contract and he and Chelsea had totally fallen out with no chance of renewal. Not because he wasn’t a 60m player.

Easy to pretend he was always mid because he’s struggled for fitness and consistency at United and because there was always a weird segment of fans who inexplicably hated him because they couldn’t understand why managers liked him. But for f***s sake. Has Bryan Mbuemo ever been POTY on a team that walked the Champions League?

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Speaking of Chelsea and United, Sancho is going back to Manchester. Chelsea couldn’t work out wages with him that fit the club’s structure.

I would’ve preferred to keep him if possible, but seems like it wasn’t. Thanks for your service Jadon!

 

[luiginb]

Speaking of Chelsea and United, Sancho is going back to Manchester. Chelsea couldn’t work out wages with him that fit the club’s structure.

I would’ve preferred to keep him if possible, but seems like it wasn’t. Thanks for your service Jadon!

With all the highly rated kids you signed to play on the wings Sancho was an unnecessary luxury. One of Estevao, Paez or Quenda is going to provide better play than Sancho for sure, my money being on the Brazilian.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I can see him going back, but this Summer would be a mistake if you ask me. On the other hand, will Fabregas still be at Como?

So far yes but inter are pushing for him.

 

[Live in the Now]

United have been recruiting outside the premier league for years, with very limited success. Now they recruit from the top 10 of the Premier league and you're concern trolling about it ?

That’s not why those players weren’t successful. It’s because they signed players like Hojlund and Zirkzee who were just prospects who never did anything at all, and they want those players to be their top goalscorer. Hasn’t anything to do with what league they played in, everything to do with people who run the team being incompetent and having inflated expectations.

 

[Savant]

Anyway Mbeumo I rate him a lot and it sucks as LFC perspective that he will join Manchester United.

You know, one of the greatest gifts that Klopp gave us is that he’s taken LFC to the point where combined with Utd’s issues) it’s made them irrelevant to me. Teams sign good players every year. I could not care less about them getting Mbeumo because they aren’t our business right now. They get Mbeumo, cool we’ve still got Salah there, they get Cunha. Cool we might be getting Wirtz. I’m just not bothered. Only think I am bothered about is not getting Cherki AND Wirtz, but Cherki would probably rather compete for minutes with the guys city are going to have in that position vs guys like Wirtz and Salah. Champagne problems

 

[luiginb]

That’s not why those players weren’t successful. It’s because they signed players like Hojlund and Zirkzee who were just prospects who never did anything at all, and they want those players to be their top goalscorer. Hasn’t anything to do with what league they played in, everything to do with people who run the team being incompetent and having inflated expectations.

Hojlund scored a lot that one year for Atalanta. However as someone who watches a lot of Serie A I never really understood how he did it, and am on record telling Jussi I don't think he's going to amount to much. I expected Zirkzee to overtake him as a starter by now, which didn't really happen either but nobody bats 100% (and I think it was more the Dutch striker's injuries that prevented him from doing it than his play)

 

[hatterson]

Hojlund scored a lot that one year for Atalanta. However as someone who watches a lot of Serie A I never really understood how he did it, and am on record telling Jussi I don't think he's going to amount to much. I expected Zirkzee to overtake him as a starter by now, which didn't really happen either but nobody bats 100% (and I think it was more the Dutch striker's injuries that prevented him from doing it than his play)

Zirkzee definitely had injuries, but he also struggled heavily. I think the expectations and fan backlash were a bit much for him.

 

[luiginb]

Zirkzee definitely had injuries, but he also struggled heavily. I think the expectations and fan backlash were a bit much for him.

I'm less worried about him though as he helps in the build up too and he's always taken some time to adjust to his new surroundings. With Hojlund I just don't see it.

 

[hatterson]

I'm less worried about him though as he helps in the build up too and he's always taken some time to adjust to his new surroundings. With Hojlund I just don't see it.

Yea I'm a lot more believing that he can positively contribute moving forward compared to Hojlund. Granted, I still don't think he's good enough to be anything more than a rotational option, but if he can settle a little bit in the offseason and doesn't have to come into the middle of a dumpster fire, I think he'll be able to mentally reset and actually do something.

 

[luiginb]

Mark Flekken to Leverkusen official for 10 mil.

 

[ahmedou]

Rumor: Mike Maignan (Chelsea)

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

With all the highly rated kids you signed to play on the wings Sancho was an unnecessary luxury. One of Estevao, Paez or Quenda is going to provide better play than Sancho for sure, my money being on the Brazilian.

Unambiguously yes, but this is not the issue. The issue, as I said earlier in this thread, is that our attacking midfield is unbelievably unbalanced and it was a serious problem this year. Palmer is left-footed, and not strong on his right. Neto is left-footed, and not strong on his right. Madueke is left-footed, and not strong on his right. Estevao is left-footed. Quenda is left-footed. Paez is left-footed.

Sancho and Mudryk were our only right-footed options in the three attacking midfield spots. He was a good depth option given that fact.

 

[Evilo]

Mamadou Sarr to Chelsea

 

[Jussi]

Speaking of Chelsea and United, Sancho is going back to Manchester. Chelsea couldn’t work out wages with him that fit the club’s structure.

I would’ve preferred to keep him if possible, but seems like it wasn’t. Thanks for your service Jadon!

I guess for Sancho, money>>>>freedom.

 

[Gecklund]

Speaking of Chelsea and United, Sancho is going back to Manchester. Chelsea couldn’t work out wages with him that fit the club’s structure.

I would’ve preferred to keep him if possible, but seems like it wasn’t. Thanks for your service Jadon!

Supposedly Chelsea has to pay 5M or so to United.

United made following Premier League horrendously boring this year and most of it was cause of these average at best players who don’t fit together under a coach that didn’t purchase them (or one that did that clearly was a sitting duck). I see absolutely nothing has changed. Had to watch MLS which let me tell you, much more fun to watch than 15 teams parking the bus.

 

[Jussi]

Hojlund scored a lot that one year for Atalanta. However as someone who watches a lot of Serie A I never really understood how he did it, and am on record telling Jussi I don't think he's going to amount to much. I expected Zirkzee to overtake him as a starter by now, which didn't really happen either but nobody bats 100% (and I think it was more the Dutch striker's injuries that prevented him from doing it than his play)

I think he lost his confidence heavily this season as he was doing less runs and also frustrated due to not getting balls (statistical fact, least played balls onto by all PL forwards). Resulted in lack of effort. However, his physicality worked in the Europa league and caused issues for many defenses and he had better results. He struggled against PL defenders physically.

Zirkzee's main advantage over Rasmus is that he's been able to find team mates better and he could've had more assist if his team mates could just score better.