2025 STANLEY CUP PLAYOFFS

[JediOrderPizza]

So who would we want from the Leafs?

No thanks to Marner. Tavares could be interesting.

I'll still take Marner easily, and well Tavares...

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I'll still take Marner easily, and well Tavares...

Well to be clear I mean Tavares on like a two or three-year deal. I'd rather that than commit to Marner for 7 years

 

[FMichael]

I see Tavares signing on a few more seasons with Tronna for a 'reasonable' salary...Marner is most likely gone - probably to the highest bidder...While I'm not thrilled with his playoff history, but ya cannot argue his reg season numbers remain top notch and that alone will help us out in getting into the post season.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Wings better have scouts game 6 in FLA. Literally like 6 potential targets in that game.

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

I see Tavares signing on a few more seasons with Tronna for a 'reasonable' salary...Marner is most likely gone - probably to the highest bidder...While I'm not thrilled with his playoff history, but ya cannot argue his reg season numbers remain top notch and that alone will help us out in getting into the post season.

I'll still take Marner easily, and well Tavares...

We gonna get in soon enough, if we make other moves. Without totally screwing up our salary structure and overpaying for someone who is absoluety shameful in the playoffs. I'm not interested in just getting to the dance, I want players who help winning it all. If Marner was a 2RW making 7mil, then I'd agree with you. Cuz you can get by with 7mil underperforming in the playoffs. You simply cannot get by with a 13mil dollar, by far your highest paid player, being a non-factor, when the lights are brightest.

SDP just gave some f***in shocking stats: Marner has played in 19 games 5,6 and 7 between 2019 and 2025. He has 0 goals and 6 assists in those games.

HELL TO THE f***IN NO to Marner

 

[FMichael]

We gonna get in soon enough, if we make other moves. Without totally screwing up our salary structure and overpaying for someone who is absoluety shameful in the playoffs. I'm not interested in just getting to the dance, I want players who help winning it all. If Marner was a 2RW making 7mil, then I'd agree with you. Cuz you can get by with 7mil underperforming in the playoffs. You simply cannot get by with a 13mil dollar, by far your highest paid player, being a non-factor, when the lights are brightest.

SDP just gave some f***in shocking stats: Marner has played in 19 games 5,6 and 7 between 2019 and 2025. He has 0 goals and 6 assists in those games.

HELL TO THE f***IN NO to Marner

Soon enough?

What moves?

 

[odin1981]

Well, well, well, looks like it was the leafs year huh? Amazing job by them. Never expect chokers to become champions. And no we do not want Marner.

 

[FMichael]

Well, well, well, looks like it was the leafs year huh? Amazing job by them. Never expect chokers to become champions. And no we do not want Marner.

Speak for yourself

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

Soon enough?

What moves?

Have given my 2 cents several times in other threads: UFAs, trades and integrating your kids. But I wanna hear, why you want him and why you seemingly ignore his obvious shortcomings which are facts at this point?

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Welcome to Detroit Marner!

 

[DamonDRW]

Florida is just too good. They can really repeat this year.

 

[ColdToiletSeats]

Marner just put up 102 points in a season, that's something we don't need or want in a player.

 

[FMichael]

Have given my 2 cents several times in other threads: UFAs, trades and integrating your kids. But I wanna hear, why you want him and why you seemingly ignore his obvious shortcomings which are facts at this point?

He's a UFA - nothing spent other than cap space...Can't expect a big value player in a trade unless we give back something of significant value in return.

He'll be our top offensive player instantly.

Has his playoff woes, but is a solid reg season guy.

We need him more than another random UFA Copp/Compher/Tarasenko clone in order to land a wildcard spot.

 

[FMichael]

Marner just put up 102 points in a season, that's something we don't need or want in a player.

Yeah - I mean who wants a guy that'll help us get into the playoffs...Right?

 

[FMichael]

Welcome to Detroit Marner!

I have a feeling someone outta the blue will pay him more...Marner was close to Marleau for a few seasons...Wonder if San Jose might be a destination...Probably not since he'll likely want to land on a team with potential to win the Cup...Wonder if he'd wear #61 instead of his usual #16?

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

Marner just put up 102 points in a season, that's something we don't need or want in a player.

102pts alongside Matthews. The math has already been done. On the Wings Marner would be right around a ppg player. This, compounded by the fact that he disappears in the playoffs and will make more than 4mil more than our captain, is alarming and does not warrant more salary than Mackinnon. Do not wanna become the Leafs 2.0 or the early 90s Wings again. That is what you are headed for. The only thing this signing would accomplish, is an earlier playoff appearance, but with a perennial choker at the helm.

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

He's a UFA - nothing spent other than cap space...Can't expect a big value player in a trade unless we give back something of significant value in return.

He'll be our top offensive player instantly.

Has his playoff woes, but is a solid reg season guy.

We need him more than another random UFA Copp/Compher/Tarasenko clone in order to land a wildcard spot.

Yeah, you are aiming at making the playoffs, which he'd help with, no doubt. I am aiming at winning the Cup, which he'd make almost impossible with his Hodini act in the deciding games.

 

[Pavels Dog]

102pts alongside Matthews. The math has already been done. On the Wings Marner would be right around a ppg player. This, compounded by the fact that he disappears in the playoffs and will make more than 4mil more than our captain, is alarming and does not warrant more salary than Mackinnon. Do not wanna become the Leafs 2.0 or the early 90s Wings again. That is what you are headed for. The only thing this signing would accomplish, is an earlier playoff appearance, but with a perennial choker at the helm.

Toronto is a team, and something is wrong with them as a team. Being afraid of every player on that roster because they fail together would be as silly as not wanting Connor Bedard because Chicago sucks.

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

Toronto is a team, and something is wrong with them as a team. Being afraid of every player on that roster because they fail together would be as silly as not wanting Connor Bedard because Chicago sucks.

Misplaced retort, since I would take Nylander in a heartbeat. He delivers in the playoffs. Of the "Core Four" Marner has by far the lowest impact on high leverage games. The Bedard comparison is nonsensical, since he has never been to the postseason. Marner has had countless chances to redeem himself, to show he is not a perimeter p***y that always disappears. FAILED. 13mil for that? Nope. Lucky, cuz we are not getting him anyway.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Misplaced retort, since I would take Nylander in a heartbeat. He delivers in the playoffs. Of the "Core Four" Marner has by far the lowest impact on high leverage games. The Bedard comparison is nonsensical, since he has never been to the postseason. Marner has had countless chances to redeem himself, to show he is not a perimeter p***y that always disappears. FAILED. 13mil for that? Nope. Lucky, cuz we are not getting him anyway.

Is Nylander available in FA?

If Marner’s biggest flaw is being almost PPG in the playoffs you live with it.

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

Is Nylander available in FA?

If Marner’s biggest flaw is being almost PPG in the playoffs you live with it.

You argued, that the Leafs as a team are flawed. I may agree, but Nylander is carrying his weight in the playoffs, Marner is not. His status is irrelevant to the arguement, cuz my point was illustrating, that the Leafs playoff fails are in large part cuz Marner is not performing.

Marner's biggest flaw is not being a PPG player in the playoffs. Like I already said, it is disappearing entirely in the deciding games of a series:

Marner has played in 19 games 5,6 and 7 between 2019 and 2025. He has 0 goals and 6 assists in those games.

HELL TO THE f***IN NO to Marner

If he scored only 80pts per season over the length of his Detroit tenure and gives me Rantanen-esque production in the postseason, then I will gladly beat the drum for him - even shell out 13mil. But he is direct opposite of Rantanen in the playoffs.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

We don't have the luxury of turning down a Marner for free. FREE.

I know it's been a while since no playoffs but even Datsyuk would have a stinker series and Zetterberg would carry.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

We gonna get in soon enough, if we make other moves. Without totally screwing up our salary structure and overpaying for someone who is absoluety shameful in the playoffs. I'm not interested in just getting to the dance, I want players who help winning it all. If Marner was a 2RW making 7mil, then I'd agree with you. Cuz you can get by with 7mil underperforming in the playoffs. You simply cannot get by with a 13mil dollar, by far your highest paid player, being a non-factor, when the lights are brightest.

SDP just gave some f***in shocking stats: Marner has played in 19 games 5,6 and 7 between 2019 and 2025. He has 0 goals and 6 assists in those games.

HELL TO THE f***IN NO to Marner

Well if Marner was on Detroit we wouldn’t have to worry about those game 5, 6 and 7 stats.

 

[Snuggs]

We don't have the luxury of turning down a Marner for free. FREE.

I know it's been a while since no playoffs but even Datsyuk would have a stinker series and Zetterberg would carry.

Whatever goes on in Toronto is amazing to me. It's not just one player, it's the whole team. Domi, all the guys they traded for/brought in.

The goalies, even though he got lite up last night are the only ones playing over their heads in Toronto.

That being said, you said it best; Red Wings can't pass up talent like that. We gotta get to the show first before we start cherry picking and offing guys that can't perform. Guys adjust/learn etc too. Pluck one of the core four, place them somewhere else and I think they'd at least be average with a chance to be a real performer next to different guys/team. I'd easily take Auston Matthews.

Still sign Marner too but maybe his number now is ALOT closer to 12/11 million vs 13 plus.

 

[Snuggs]

102pts alongside Matthews. The math has already been done. On the Wings Marner would be right around a ppg player. This, compounded by the fact that he disappears in the playoffs and will make more than 4mil more than our captain, is alarming and does not warrant more salary than Mackinnon. Do not wanna become the Leafs 2.0 or the early 90s Wings again. That is what you are headed for. The only thing this signing would accomplish, is an earlier playoff appearance, but with a perennial choker at the helm.

This is the stupidest things ever. (NOT you personally!!!!)

Guys worrying about how players will do in the playoffs when the team we're talking about doesn't ever make the playoffs. lol.

"I don't wanna be the early 90's Wings". Oh no you don't? That hockey wasn't entertaining. Got swept in a Stanley cup but did that season suck watching all that hockey? Even Toronto is entertaining hockey till they have some playoff angst.

Panthers coach was a good/great coach for a LONG time with not great post season success and now. Bang. Back to back appearance's, possibly three.