Kcb12345
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2025 Offseason Talk
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M88K
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we don't need more old falling off players
Sports2
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Interesting. His contract is bad- but pretty “buyout-able” as early as 2026 from what I can tell- which is when Marchment’s contract would fall off anyway. A pretty low risk gamble considering how dire the offense is. I’m not sure Marchment would fetch a 2nd from a bubble team and he likely hasn’t endeared himself this last month to other teams with cup aspirations.
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Would like to see us fill out the roster with a few more guys in that 27-29 age group . Would bring duchene back at 3 m again but with him and seguin and possibly benn back , that’s enough veteran presence . Don’t necessarily need to load up on skill but just more of a focus on guys who are in their prime and have that drive to compete . They’re are a lot of bargain players set to hit the market this year .
joshik
In Duchene we believe
I really hope we dont resign Duche. He is only good for getting us into playoffs and we can manage that without him. I feel like like Benn is staying 99% whatever we like it or not. My main goal is bringing back Granny he is such a swiss army knife player that helps enourmosly wherever he plays. If he can take bellow 5 mil I thnik its a nobrainer.
joshik
In Duchene we believe
Hell nah. I cant see us getting good return for robo and he can still pick it upif he has the motivation. I would have guess the Dman is Burns.
Some great conversation here folks. A few thoughts on my end:
- Miro Heiskanen is the only player on this team I wouldn't move for Brady Tkachuk in a heartbeat. The guy is an absolute warrior. I was kind of hoping the Stars would spend assets they spent on Rantanen there.
- Remember that Gaglardi is a big Logan Stankoven fan. His hockey people likely had to convince him the investment in Rantanen was worth it to get over the hump. I'm not shocked he's not pleased with the end result.
- We've seen Gaglardi intervene with the Hitchcock situation previously. Will he ultimately dictate keeping DeBoer whether it is right or wrong?
- There's a lot of talk that contract talks with Robertson were very acrimonious and his representation asked for some weird things. Add in his health and I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to sell now and get that cap flexibility back. Trouble is, he had a pretty decent second half until he was hurt.
- Hintz is another name that was floated in rumours around the deadline. He's a good player but I wonder if he can stay healthy too.
- Given the salary committed for Dumba and Lyubushkin, and the asset traded for Lundkvist, they need to be contributors. Wonder if there's any friction between Nill and DeBoer there. I don't know that any of them deserve the salary, but they're paying it, so something has to give.
- The "not the best team" comment from DeBoer was telling to me. I wonder if the deals made down the stretch affected chemistry or if something else was going on in the room late in the year.
- The coach, whether it is DeBoer or whomever, has to figure out who complements Rantanen and start building the lineup out from there. Not sure they really figured that out or whether there was some round peg, square hole stuff happening.
- Overall, the team needs to be harder to play, especially in the bottom six. Love Steel (and think he could play higher in the lineup), like what Back did as a rookie, but otherwise make it over. There are young guys who could play hard and wouldn't cost a fortune.
- I don't bring Benn back, but I'm not sure Nill is the guy to do it unless ownership pushes him to move on.
- I love Duchene's regular seasons, but two straight playoffs with little production doesn't sit well. I don't think I bring him back.
- Marchment isn't loved by the officials, which makes it tough to play the rat type of game he plays. I'm not sure he can dial in otherwise.
- The Stars don't really have the draft pick or prospect capital to get out of mistake contracts or take a swing at guys who will really help. I'm not sure you can do the Robertson thing without replacing his production, but maybe he replenishes the pool and they dip into the UFA market.
- Elysian made one of the best points in this thread. It wasn't Oettinger's fault, but he wasn't good enough. Skinner outplayed him. He may have been worn out both years by what it took to get there.
- I didn't mind the pull to try to spark something, though I may have put Oettinger back in after the team settled. He's still the guy that brought them there.
- A point no one seems to make is that Dallas has by far the most travel in an NHL season. Does that contribute to hitting a wall?
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Right answer here is that Rantanen gets "injured" before trade deadline and there is more space for additions. That is the way both Oilers and Florida did it.
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Out of curiosity, if Dallas were to move Robo, what would they be looking for?
Like full cap relief with futures coming back or a ready now player who’s making less $$
Like full cap relief with futures coming back or a ready now player who’s making less $$
Troy McClure
Suter will never be scratched
Hintz has a full no move clause, so he wasn't and isn't going anywhere.
My guess is he was talking about the team from his first season. That one had Pavelski still playing great and being what made Robertson and Hintz look like high end players we haven't seen since. It was the season of the Bennaissance. It was the season of Miro's outlier offensive season. They also still had Suter on the roster, and we know DeBoer loved Suter.
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dalness
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I’m okay with Seguin playing next year. Out of the passengers he is the least to be worried about imo. I know his cap hit isn’t ideal but considering what he came back from I think he played well.
txomisc
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I hate that I want Dutchy gone because the dude is all class and heart.
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I can sympathize with Duchy the way he talks about the good times and team mentality. But 3 points on 5v5 in 37 playoff games is not it man. Even Stankoven got 7 5v5 points during the last playoff run and Sam Steel got the samount on 5v5 in this years playoff run. You can't just say you love being in Dallas and hope the fun continues when you've disappeared for the last two playoffs. It's time to let the new generation to have a go. And stop wasting the younger cores prime years with these half assed play off tries.
BrettHullsToe
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I'm past caring how much the players say Benn is a great leader - the results don't back it up. Give me a shitty captain with a team that starts the game on time and is in the Finals over what we have now, where guys don't try until it's do or die.
dalness
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I'm with you. These guys aren't my friends, I don't know 'em personally. I watch and cheer for the team to see them win the cup. Who ever can actually do that on the ice that's who I want. Also they have millions and millions of dollars, I'm not going to feel sorry for them because they might not get to play hockey where they want to play and with the guys they want to play hockey with.
DarrylshutzSydor
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Stars should let Duchy and Benn walk and upgrade from within. Texas Stars have some talkent to promote.....
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I think you're overestimating the depth of the Stars prospect pool.
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What I take from the exit videos today.
1) Benn is desperate to stay and finish as a Star. Get the sense he will sign a 2 or 3 year deal at 2.5 to 3 AAV.
2) Duchene I think goes to free agency and sees what offers he gets around length, he wants some term security. If Dallas gets him 3 years even at a lower rate he might stay. But if Nill initially doesn't do more than 1 year I think Duchene will see what's out there.
3) It feels like there is a small grudge there from Oettinger, when asked about his relationship with Deboer if it was strained he didn't answer it directly. Almost said his job whoever is coach is to stop the puck better.
There wasn't too much else in those videos outside of the dejection if losing.
1) Benn is desperate to stay and finish as a Star. Get the sense he will sign a 2 or 3 year deal at 2.5 to 3 AAV.
2) Duchene I think goes to free agency and sees what offers he gets around length, he wants some term security. If Dallas gets him 3 years even at a lower rate he might stay. But if Nill initially doesn't do more than 1 year I think Duchene will see what's out there.
3) It feels like there is a small grudge there from Oettinger, when asked about his relationship with Deboer if it was strained he didn't answer it directly. Almost said his job whoever is coach is to stop the puck better.
There wasn't too much else in those videos outside of the dejection if losing.
