Rumor: 2025 Offersheet Candidates.

[Bjornar Moxnes]

$6,871,373 AAV to Vilardi

Jets say thank you.

 

[TheNewEra]

bourque and lundkvist

stars tight on cap space, bourque is obviously the bigger target but i can see lundkvist being a successful offersheet as i doubt the stars want to pay a lot of money for a #6 dman (unless someone bails out the stars for dumba)

 

[Edmonton East]

The Leafs will lock up Knies before July 1.
9 mil x 8 years enough? Rising cap he might cost more. But they will for certain sign him.

Probably, but that's the point. He isn't going for under $9m in this environment imo. Someone will offersheet him for above $9 if available. Yes, Leafs have cap space. Cool.

So say $16m or so left. Then they sign Tavares to $6. Okay, $10m left. Then what? defense is old and needs a solid addition. There goes another $5. Okay, $5 or so left to backfill Marner. Let Tavares walk? Fine, you still need to replace and have limited trade chips...so that'd be 2 important top 6 players needing to be replaced via UFA at a minimum.

The overall point here is Knies is a very obvious, high profile offersheet candidate. Literally what this thread is about. This pretty much ensures he's getting top $$$ either before July 1 or after via offersheet match. And it's very difficult to see how Toronto doesn't walk in with a materially worse team next season as a result. That's the "cap situation". Leaf fans can hate Marner all they want, but losing top players in their prime for nothing sets franchises back badly...often even more than people expect. Happens all the time. Like with my Devs and Parise.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

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[wintersej]

With the first massive cap jump in a while paired with the Blues' recent success, I think we see a bunch of offersheets this offseason. This is the worst environment in a decade to have a big RFA offersheet eligible player available.

I mean counter point is that few teams outside of Dallas will be in a crunch with the cap going up.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I mean counter point is that few teams outside of Dallas will be in a crunch with the cap going up.

He's already been educated on that. Then he decided to elaborate that he didn't mean they had to be successful offer sheets, just attempts.

... Which kinda sounds like BS considering he cited STL's "Recent success" to make his point.

 

[tradestheyen]

Kakko is an RFA, right? might be interesting candidate for an offer sheet.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Kakko is an RFA, right? might be interesting candidate for an offer sheet.

I was originally gonna object but that actually is interesting.

Nobody goes into 1st round territory for him, but throw $4.5M at him and that takes Seattle to $12.5M with only 9F and 4D signed.

 

[Edmonton East]

He's already been educated on that. Then he decided to elaborate that he didn't mean they had to be successful offer sheets, just attempts.

... Which kinda sounds like BS considering he cited STL's "Recent success" to make his point.

...bud, I literally acknowledged the Leafs' cap space and said "attempt" verbatim in my very first post in this thread. The very one you initially responded to. Very comical to say it's BS because you either didn't read what I said or you misinterpreted it or, at this point, are just looking to argue with someone.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

...bud, I literally acknowledged the Leafs' cap space and said "attempt" verbatim in my very first post in this thread. The very one you initially responded to. Very comical to say it's BS because you either didn't read what I said or you misinterpreted it or, at this point, are just looking to argue with someone.

You're welcome to go back to page one and see that that is not the post I responded to.

... Probably should've done that before you hit "Post reply".

With the first massive cap jump in a while paired with the Blues' recent success, I think we see a bunch of offersheets this offseason. This is the worst environment in a decade to have a big RFA offersheet eligible player available.

This post (Hint, the one I actually responded to) doesn't say f*** all about "Attempt". In fact, it actually cites the Blues unmatched offer sheets, which would suggest you're talking about unmatched offer sheets, rather than unsuccessful "Attempts".

 

[Whileee]

I'm showing a little under $24M, though I might be missing something.

My guess would be they handle Peterka with urgency, keep McLeod, and if they absolutely have to, trade Byram or take the compensation. I kinda wouldn't be surprised if they parted with Byram either way. But I'd also be surprised if those three cost anywhere near $24M combined.

Not sure about the cap space. I got the info from PuckPedia (below).

I agree with your prioritization. I think Byram might get 7.5-8M. Peterka might also see offers over 7M. McLeod's value is harder to read. I think there might be a team or two that might value him highly.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Not sure about the cap space. I got the info from PuckPedia (below).

I agree with your prioritization. I think Byram might get 7.5-8M. Peterka might also see offers over 7M. McLeod's value is harder to read. I think there might be a team or two that might value him highly.

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Gotcha. I think the difference is Puckpedia lists Ostlund/Rosen/Kulich on the main roster whereas CapWages (What I was using) doesn't.

I'd lean more toward CapWages' numbers, simply because including those three (And RFA Tyson Kozak) on PP's list puts Buffalo at 16 forwards, which is obviously not even possible.

 

[Edmonton East]

You're welcome to go back to page one and see that that is not the post I responded to.

... Probably should've done that before you hit "Post reply".



This post (Hint, the one I actually responded to) doesn't say f*** all about "Attempt". In fact, it actually cites the Blues unmatched offer sheets, which would suggest you're talking about unmatched offer sheets, rather than unsuccessful "Attempts."

Haha cute strawman. So how on earth did we get back to talking about Knies?? I didn't mention it in that post. I didnt even mention Toronto. Gasp. So you must have read my initial post, huh? Give it up already.

Still love that you glossed over (completely ignored) the reality that tons of offersheets never came in your handpicked example of a PERFECT offersheet environment. You keep getting proven wrong and then moving goal posts.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I forget which is the limit, but offersheet compensation is based on 4, or 5 years,if you go over that.

So, if you want to sign someone just under the 4 1st compensation, but you sign them to a 7 year deal, the compensation is based on the total money over 4, or 5 years.

Also, if you sign someone to a contract and that compensation is 4 1sts, you can choose which 4 1sts in the next 5 years you give up, but all 4 have to be yours.

Unless things have changed.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Haha cute strawman. So how on earth did we get back to talking about Knies?? I didn't mention it in that post. I didnt even mention Toronto. Gasp. So you must have read my initial post, huh? Give it up already.

Still love that you glossed over (completely ignored) the reality that tons of offersheets never came in your handpicked example of a PERFECT offersheet environment. You keep getting proven wrong and then moving goal posts.

"Hahaha cute strawman". Well hey, at least I'm not telling lies about what post you quoted... Figure that shit out and maybe you'd actually have an argument.

 

[Whileee]

Gotcha. I think the difference is Puckpedia lists Ostlund/Rosen/Kulich on the main roster whereas CapWages (What I was using) doesn't.

I'd lean more toward CapWages' numbers, simply because including those three (And RFA Tyson Kozak) on PP's list puts Buffalo at 16 forwards, which is obviously not even possible.

...but PuckPedia is only counting 5 D and 1 goalie, so they calculate 21.4M in cap space with only 18 signed. Add Byram, McLeod, Peterka and a goalie and shuffle the D and F fillers for a 22 or 23 player roster and it will be very tight, especially if Peterka, Byram and McLeod average 7M AAV each. McLeod might be the wild card. A Byram trade would decompress the situation.

 

[Takeahnase]

How many of those teams still have that space after July 1st. And then how many of those still have the picks needed to compensate?

No 2026 1st for Dallas. None for Colorado. None for Tampa. None for Toronto. None for Vegas. None for Ottawa. None for New York. There goes 7 right there for any of the higher tiers...

You're right though. It's the best time!!!

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

...but PuckPedia is only counting 5 D and 1 goalie, so they calculate 21.4M in cap space with only 18 signed. Add Byram, McLeod, Peterka and a goalie and shuffle the D and F fillers for a 22 or 23 player roster and it will be very tight, especially if Peterka, Byram and McLeod average 7M AAV each. McLeod might be the wild card. A Byram trade would decompress the situation.

I think a D trade is likely, and Power would surprise me. So it's likely Byram.

I can't see them letting Peterka go under any circumstances, after the season he had.

 

[jgimp]

$6,871,373 AAV to Vilardi

Jets match easily. Needs to be alot higher for them to pass

 

[Henderson33]

bourque and lundkvist

stars tight on cap space, bourque is obviously the bigger target but i can see lundkvist being a successful offersheet as i doubt the stars want to pay a lot of money for a #6 dman (unless someone bails out the stars for dumba)

The Stars didn't qualify Lundkvist last year and I doubt they will this year either. Petrovic has earned the #6/7 spot in most Stars fans eyes.

 

[Mr Positive]

The Oilers have Draisaitl's contract hitting the books, and McDavid's to negotiate so maybe we might try to chisel Bouchard down as much as we can. The fact that we haven't signed him yet is concerning. Maybe someone offers crazy money

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

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[Chainshot]

...but PuckPedia is only counting 5 D and 1 goalie, so they calculate 21.4M in cap space with only 18 signed. Add Byram, McLeod, Peterka and a goalie and shuffle the D and F fillers for a 22 or 23 player roster and it will be very tight, especially if Peterka, Byram and McLeod average 7M AAV each. McLeod might be the wild card. A Byram trade would decompress the situation.

AFP has McLeod at $5M-ish in their end-of-season assessment on a long term deal. I don't think anyone is going up to $7M on him.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

"Hahaha cute strawman". Well hey, at least I'm not telling lies about what post you quoted... Figure that shit out and maybe you'd actually have an argument.

You clearly want them to be saying one thing, but they are clearly saying exactly what they keep telling you. Successful offersheets will lead to more attempts at offer sheets - even if those attempts never even materialize into formal offers. Pretty simple.

 

[Whileee]

AFP has McLeod at $5M-ish in their end-of-season assessment on a long term deal. I don't think anyone is going up to $7M on him.

Yes, 7M would be a push, but he's a player that I think might have more value than his projections suggest. He's sneaky good, and how many good mid-20s 2Cs are out there?

But maybe I'm overrating him. I think he'd be a great fit for the Jets at 2C.