dahrougem2
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If it's Colton and not Wood, so be it. That leaves them 1.5M plus whatever they can get from punting Wood to the AHL to sign a 3RW.
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Bennett will disappoint you too, but he at least will bring more speed, energy, and physicality.
Avs don't have the wingers to make Bennett work. As RIAL pointed out, he's not skilled enough on his own to really carry a line. He's a perfect fit with a guy like Tkachuk though.
I've never seen a guy whose body language and facial expressions scream "GET ME OUTTA HERE" more than Wood after he finally came back from that major injury. He desperately wants to leave, and after that nightmare playoff game I have no doubt those feelings have been amplified a thousand fold.
I think it's totally possible to move the guy, it may take an asset to do so but I don't think it'll be exorbitantly expensive.
Frankly I think it'll be harder to move Colton.
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I agree with @Balthazar here. Wood has negative value, we would have to attach a decent asset to move him.
I think it's more likely we get Colton/Wood to waive their NTCs together and some team actually sees a benefit in taking Wood to get Colton. We either take a pick or some depth forward scrub back for them.
I don't think EJ comes back. He's cooked. More likely Aamodt competes with Middleton for the 6D spot.
I put small bumps to your Nelson/Drouin/Malinski projections.
Lehkonen (4.5M) - MacKinnon (12.6M) - Necas (6.5M)
Landeskog (7M) - Nelson (6.5M) - Nichushkin (6.125M)
Drouin (2.5M) - Coyle (5.25M) - O'Connor (2.5M)
Kelly (825K) - Drury (1.725M) - ???
???
Toews (7.25M) - Makar (9M)
Girard (5M) - Manson (4.5M)
Middleton (775K) - Malinski (1.75M)
Aamodt (775k)
Blackwood (5.25M)
Wedgewood (1.5M)
Cap space for 4RW and 13F: $3,675,000
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$4m x 2y for a guy who scores at 0.5 PPG and many people believe can be a center.
There will be a market for Colton.
Easy 3C fit for a ton of teams.
Scott Stevens said the same thing. He is a trash person, but he mentioned that he personally thinks the skill in the game is done because of the amount of optional practices and how players don't really practice as much as in the 90s. He's sort of right on that. Even though our modern era has much better talent in terms of depth, it is still lacking the quality of calibre superstars the 90s had. The 90s had about 8-11 superstars, our modern era has probably 6-8 tops.
I would love nothing more than to be rid of him so I hope you're right.
A huge, huge indictment of MacFarland there, throwing money and term at two guys with discernible skill but absolutely NO hockey sense to speak of. So utterly one-dimensional, they were both far greater liabilities than assets. And one of them literally cost them a playoff game.
I agree that CMac is far from the issue, but choosing Manson over Kadri, trading Rantanen whilst knowing that Dallas is probably one of the teams he would re-sign with, keeping our goalers for as long as he did, and signing for or trading for absolute goofs with low IQ means he's not someone I am losing sleep over if he eventually gets the axe.
Bro, the powerplay was rubbish entering the playoffs, it was rubbish last year against Dallas with Rantanen, and it was rubbish this year without him.The Power Play was 2nd overall after March 6th (day before deadline) at 30.9%.
I think not practicing more was probably a mistake too, but in the past they have practiced the PP in morning skate on game days, and might have done so with Dallas. Either way, the limited practice wasn't a problem before.
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I don't believe he would. 2 years left @ 4M for a 20-20 guy is not a cap dump for all teams. He just happens to be a casualty for us.
Only reason for EJ is if the Avs want "good vibes" in the room. I do not personally want him back.
I can get behind this ONLY if the Avs are able to snag someone sneaky in UFA for the 3rd line. I love LOC but I do not want him anywhere near the 3rd line. He will get burned out given his style of play.
Two potential options: Connor Brown and Anthony Mantha.
I don't disagree but Aarif is going out of his way to absolve Bednar of blame and say how outstanding of a coach he is, and I do not agree at all. He was given an insane roster and made chicken shit out of chicken salad.
You know my opinion on this matter, I would have fired everyone from CMac all the way down to Pratt. I sort of agree with Aarif though, he makes a good point that MacFarland has lost most of the trades he's done since being full-time GM and has to fix problems at the TDL he made by being so utterly scared of signing free agents to overpaid contracts. We get the pleasure of hindsight, but he undersold Byram big time in that trade (I would have gone with somebody younger), knew/had suspicions that Rantanen wasn't going to re-sign with Carolina, and overpaid for every single effing player this TDL even when I made the argument a week or so after that teams who go for the best rentals, never ever win.
I agree in the end, absolving Bednar of all blame is quite biased or careless on his part.
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Respecfully, you're replying to a post that literally disproves that, so I'm not sure why you think that?
The Power Play was also 1st in the NHL at 31.5% the last 34 games, from Jan 21 - Apr 17.
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The longer you look at CMac's trades and signings the uglier it gets. He lost nearly all of them.
Is it on him or on the coach? Or the disconnect between the two? I don't know, but it's f***ing ugly.
Death by a thousand cuts.
The majority of moves this fanbase has agreed with, or at the very least was mixed. But ultimately he's the one running the ship.
Of course, anybody can choose an arbitrary date to make something "look good." The PK is a perfect example of how it was in the 60% range because Georgiev couldn't stop a puck, but when they got the Wood bros, it was one of the best, but because it was soooooooooooooooo bad at the beginning, it barely got to around 80% when the season finished. It's like Formula 1, your car could be 0.5 seconds quicker every lap, but you ain't going to overtake somebody with ten laps to go who is 4 seconds in front of you. I used the last month of that range, and it was 19th bro (01/04 to 17/04).Respecfully, you're replying to a post that literally disproves that, so I'm not sure why you think that?
The Power Play was also 1st in the NHL at 31.5% the last 34 games, from Jan 21 - Apr 17.
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It entered the playoffs as a 19th-ranked team. What happened this season was a story of Jekyll and Hyde. The powerplay started off amazing IIRC. It was shooting at 40%+, then dipped big time to one of the worst in the winter, rebounded nicely at the start of the new year, and went into the playoffs cold as ice. It doesn't matter, though, the special teams battle was lost both years (last year and this).
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I would argue you're the one choosing arbitrary dates, when MacKinnon, Makar, and Necas weren't even playing for part of that, and Drouin only played 1 game.
That's also not the last month that's the last 2.5 weeks.
To your point, you can find a 1-2 week period where any team is hot or cold on special teams. Being 1st the last 34 games is a better indicator of ability.
Stars PK was 3rd in the NHL during the season, but 31st in that same 2.5 week range you specified, from 4/1 - 4/17.
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The most troubling thing for me as an Avs fan is that I probably have to endure more failures in the playoffs for another 5 years or so before a rebuild begins, then another however many years it’s gonna take to finish a rebuild and have a winning team again, and I’m not that young. There is a chance I never see another cup win for the Avs, but at least I’ve seen 3 in my lifetime
I don't see any system where Colton would have been successful. Certainly not as a 3C. Wood just plain sucks at this point, he's an abhorrent hockey player suffering from (yes I know I'm unofficially banned from saying this but this actually came from the player himself) chronic injuries that have severely limited his effectiveness.
There is a disconnect, yes, absolutely there is. But I also just think believing either of those guys were effective 3rd liners and not one-dimensional 4th liners with very limited upside is entirely on the GM.
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They thought Colton would be the 3C version of what Bennett is currently doing in FLA.
Well, he most certainly isn't that.
In his defense, he was forced into a quasi-2C role because Johansen was a total disaster upon arrival. His game imploded IMO as the result of LOC going down and him wearing out. But he never recovered apart from a brief stint this season where he was an effective scoring winger.
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I'm at the point where I find it hard to blame any center. The list of middle 6 centers that failed under this coach in the last 8-9 years is just too long.
Edit: Someone needs to make a list of all the middle 6 centers that played for this team under Bednar...starting with Kerfoot, Jost, JTC, Soda...until Nelson and Coyle.
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It can't be Nelson. It's not just that he sucked (he did, big time), it's that he didn't even compete. That's not a Bednar issue. Nor is it because of systems, linemates, culture shock, etc. He's soft.
I don't know what options there are but I'll take one who isn't a punk.
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