Speculation: 2025 Off-season Thread

[CobraAcesS]

That’s true, better PP could win us the series, but Dallas PK was great. What we needed is to kill our own penalties. We lost game 7 on Dallas PP goal. They didn’t even have to try hard. Avs totally collapsed mentally and lost the series, and we’ve seen that too often from this team. We need the players to be more strong mentally

Yeah I've mentioned both, but my disdain for our power play goes much deeper lol.

 

[LOFIN]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Good. Send Cale, too. Talk him into requesting a trade to the Avs

 

[The Moops]

Good. Send Cale, too. Talk him into requesting a trade to the Avs

MacK doesn't have to face Dallas in the east. Maybe he goes to Pitt

 

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

Who do we replace Nelson and Drouin with? We can't afford to let talent walk away when we don't have assets.

Granlund

 

[the_fan]

I would also consider trading Necas. He’s gonna ask for too much money and probably won’t be worth it. Trade him now while he’s under contract and has value. We might be able to get one good 2C or couple of pieces for him. Necas will probably ask for at least 10 mill, and I much rather we paid 13 to keep Mikko

 

[the_fan]

The following players should be replaced IMO

Necas
Nelson
Colton
Wood

Not sure about Drouin. If he takes another 2 mil deal then keep him, otherwise let him go

 

[CobraAcesS]

I would also consider trading Necas. He’s gonna ask for too much money and probably won’t be worth it. Trade him now while he’s under contract and has value. We might be able to get one good 2C or couple of pieces for him. Necas will probably ask for at least 10 mill, and I much rather we paid 13 to keep Mikko

If we couldn't get a 2C for Mikko, what kind of 2C are we getting for Necas?

 

[the_fan]

If we couldn't get a 2C for Mikko, what kind of 2C are we getting for Necas?

Did we even try to get a 2C for Mikko?

 

[CobraAcesS]

Did we even try to get a 2C for Mikko?

Probably not in the offseason, but by the time he was traded we knew Mitts wasn't working.

Right now I can't think of a realistic center target though either. No EP doesn't count lol.

 

[the_fan]

Probably not in the offseason, but by the time he was traded we knew Mitts wasn't working.

Right now I can't think of a realistic center target though either. No EP doesn't count lol.

If Vancouver would do EP for Necas, I’d do it. We would probably need to add but not a lot. Then re-sign Drouin. Replace Colton with cheaper 3rd line winger, get rid of Wood

Drouin-Nate-Val
Landy-EP-Lehky
Kivi-Coyle-???
Kelly-Drury-LOC

 

[CobraAcesS]

If Vancouver would do EP for Necas, I’d do it. We would probably need to add but not a lot. Then re-sign Drouin. Replace Colton with cheaper 3rd line winger, get rid of Wood

Drouin-Nate-Val
Landy-EP-Lehky
Kivi-Coyle-???
Kelly-Drury-LOC

Ya'all are way more down on Necas than I am lol.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

If Vancouver would do EP for Necas, I’d do it. We would probably need to add but not a lot. Then re-sign Drouin. Replace Colton with cheaper 3rd line winger, get rid of Wood

Drouin-Nate-Val
Landy-EP-Lehky
Kivi-Coyle-???
Kelly-Drury-LOC

There’s $5m between the salaries of Necas and EP.

No, you’re not re-signing Drouin. You’re also likely trading another player like Lehkonen just to even ice a team under the salary cap.

 

[Tralfamadore]

I would also consider trading Necas. He’s gonna ask for too much money and probably won’t be worth it. Trade him now while he’s under contract and has value. We might be able to get one good 2C or couple of pieces for him. Necas will probably ask for at least 10 mill, and I much rather we paid 13 to keep Mikko

Trading Necas just further dilutes the value they could have had for Mikko.

It's gonna end up being Mikko for a couple filler roster players prospects and or shit draft picks.

 

[JudoKoala]

I haven't spent money to watch this team in about 7 years. I haven't bought any merch either. I cannot, however, divest my emotional interest in the team. For whatever reason I don't think I'll ever be able to just stop following them. Though I imagine I'll probably only catch ~50 games next season (similar to when we had Georgiev)

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No sports team has me in a bigger chokehold more then the Avalanche. It's like a god damn abusive relationship at this point. Right now I f***ing hate them but I'll be crawling back to them on my knees by Oct 2025.

Thanks for your input, I appreciate and definitely understand the sentiments.

 

[Avsfan1921]

Who do we replace Nelson and Drouin with? We can't afford to let talent walk away when we don't have assets.

Drouin is already replaced by Landeskog. He plays half a season at most and is not a playoff player. He can hit the road and it won’t effect this team on the slightest.

 

[the_fan]

Trading Necas just further dilutes the value they could have had for Mikko.

It's gonna end up being Mikko for a couple filler roster players prospects and or shit draft picks.

The damage is already done when we traded Mikko. If we pay Necas 10 mill or possibly more, I think that will worsen things. Anyway you look at it, CMac has really set this team back

 

[the_fan]

Ya'all are way more down on Necas than I am lol.

It’s not that I’m that down on Necas, I just don’t think we should pay him what he will most likely ask for which is probably at least 10 mill AAV. He’s not worth that much IMO. I’d be willing to keep him for 8 or closer to 9 but that’s max. Not even sure if I’d go 9

 

[CobraAcesS]

It’s not that I’m that down on Necas, I just don’t think we should pay him what he will most likely ask for which is probably at least 10 mill AAV. He’s not worth that much IMO. I’d be willing to keep him for 8 or closer to 9 but that’s max. Not even sure if I’d go 9

Well we'll find out, his playoff performance will factor in.

 

[missionAvs]

It’s not that I’m that down on Necas, I just don’t think we should pay him what he will most likely ask for which is probably at least 10 mill AAV. He’s not worth that much IMO. I’d be willing to keep him for 8 or closer to 9 but that’s max. Not even sure if I’d go 9

I'd like to see Necas have a full season with a new coaching staff not chained to MacK's hip. That said, I won't lose any sleep if we trade him as long as we get someone good back. I'm so f***ing down on this team honestly that they can trade just about anyone and I won't care.

 

[the_fan]

Well we'll find out, his playoff performance will factor in.

He was ok in the playoffs. 5 points in 7 games. Definitely not a 10 mill player. He was also under PPG in the regular season with the Avs, 28 points in 30 games. If he was a center putting up those numbers, maybe he’d be worth more, but under PPG winger, I’d pay him somewhere in between 8-9

 

[the_fan]

I'd like to see Necas have a full season with a new coaching staff not chained to MacK's hip. That said, I won't lose any sleep if we trade him as long as we get someone good back. I'm so f***ing down on this team honestly that they can trade just about anyone and I won't care.

I feel the same way. Maybe Necas needs more time with the Avs and he’ll start producing more, but his contract is up after next year, and so far he’s been a under PPG winger for us while nothing special defensively.

I’m saying I would pay him 8 or 9, but on second thought, if he continues this current pace all of next year where he’s under PPG, no way he should even make 8 or 9. He shouldn’t make more than Val unless he’s at least PPG in regular season and playoffs

 

[CobraAcesS]

I feel the same way. Maybe Necas needs more time with the Avs and he’ll start producing more, but his contract is up after next year, and so far he’s been a under PPG winger for us while nothing special defensively.

I’m saying I would pay him 8 or 9, but on second thought, if he continues this current pace all of next year where he’s under PPG, no way he should even make 8 or 9. He shouldn’t make more than Val unless he’s at least PPG in regular season and playoffs

Val's deal is a steal if he stays out of trouble, but yeah I'm thinking 8, he's a very good player, but not 10, 11M obviously.

We'll see if he goes the Mikko route of max money, or accepts that he's on a contender.

I don't think he decided to be difficult with the Canes just for max money, he said he wanted a bridge deal to bet on himself. Which is perfectly reasonable since he hadn't broke out to his standards.

 

[the_fan]

Val's deal is a steal if he stays out of trouble, but yeah I'm thinking 8, he's a very good player, but not 10, 11M obviously.

We'll see if he goes the Mikko route of max money, or accepts that he's on a contender.

I don't think he decided to be difficult with the Canes just for max money, he said he wanted a bridge deal to bet on himself. Which is perfectly reasonable since he hadn't broke out to his standards.

You know Necas is not gonna take 8. He’ll be asking for at least 10 with the cap going up more in 2 years. We either have to pay him then or lose him to free agency. This is why I rather we just trade him now

 

[Metallo]

Had a weird reckoning this morning where I asked myself why I've spent my whole life watching professional sports when it ultimately amounts to little more than negative emotions above all. What a waste of time. I think this might be a big crossroads in my life where I need to evaluate why I've spent so much time and money on guys who don't even know me. We won the Cup in 2022 and what did that result in? How has my life been for the better at all? Damn. Watching sports is a f***ing waste of time, dude. It's really just hitting me today. Sorry to be such a bummer but what is the point of all this?

I'm with you. I don't spend a dime on this: only kitten streams, I buy nothing no jersey, no hats, no tickets, nothing. Still, it's a lot of time, late nights and rough mornings.

The highs are fun, but few and far between, specially when the team is uber talented but underachieving under high expectations.

I'm not going to watch much of the remainder of the playoffs. I'll work in honing my craft as an investor, get more rest by going to bed earlier, train more and try to get myself a nice shorty for the summer.

I'll post my thoughts on the Avs plan for the offseason at some point. One positive of being an Avs fan is this HFBoards community: the good discussions, the jokes, the memes, etc. You guys are the best, you are the Avs coverage. Take care!