Red Sox/MLB 2025 Off-Season Hot Stove II

[BigBadBruins7708]

Why? They won 4 WS in 20 years

I’ve been following since 1967 as an 8 year old

I’ve seen 1967-2003

This is nothing where we are at

Don't be disingenuous and pretend 2025 FSG operates the same way 2004 Henry did.

2004 Henry tried to trade for a 27 year old MVP, current Henry traded one away as a sweetener to dump a contract

 

[DKH]

Don't be disingenuous and pretend 2025 FSG operates the same way 2004 Henry did

I am sorry. I thought I could sneak this by everyone but Everett Mike

I underestimated this place

 

[Johnnyduke]

Why would you go out and give someone like Alex Bregman a huge contract before you find out exactly how good Kristian Campbell is? It's not like Campbell is several years away.

I'm not specifically talking about signing Bregman. Just the general idea that because a prospect is highly rated that means you can't possibly sign a good player at that position. The more good players and options you have the better. I don't need to see 9 homegrown players in the lineup.

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[GatorMike]

I'm not specifically talking about signing Bregman. Just the general idea that because a prospect is highly rated that means you can't possibly sign a good player at that position. The more good players and options you have the better. I don't need to see 9 homegrown players in the lineup.

What you're describing sounds more like collecting talent rather than building a team.

 

[Johnnyduke]

What you're describing sounds more like collecting talent rather than building a team.

Well building a team hasn't exactly worked so guilty as charged. Give me talent!

 

[SPV]

I understand being cautious about throwing out big contracts with Masa and Story, and others we’ve been burned on, but it looks like even if they give Bregman a deal they’ll be way under the tax threshold. And is it unrealistic to think they could contend for a playoff spot with their current roster plus him? Seems like a no brainer.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Wrong thread

 

[Mione134]

Before the Phillies took that song from us.

 

[EvilDead]

Why? They won 4 WS in 20 years

I’ve been following since 1967 as an 8 year old

I’ve seen 1967-2003

This is nothing where we are at

Because Sasaki at one point didn't like Yamamoto going back to their days in NPB. They were rivals when Yamamoto played the Buffaloes and Sasaki played for the Marines. Meanwhile, his mentor, Yu Darvish, plays for San Diego.

 

[FrankerC]

 

[DKH]

Dodgers better win next 5 WS

 

[GatorMike]

 

[CDJ]

if that’s true that’s gross and a big bullet dodged

 

[FrankerC]

 

[McGarnagle]

That's what you get when you treat your players like shit, Henry. Word gets around.

 

[EverettMike]

if that’s true that’s gross and a big bullet dodged

It's not.

 

[GatorMike]

That's what you get when you treat your players like shit, Henry. Word gets around.

Who got treated like shit?

 

[McGarnagle]

Who got treated like shit?

Duran, pretty much everyone they've traded lately and then used the media to disparage.

 

[GatorMike]

Duran, pretty much everyone they've traded lately and then used the media to disparage.

Somehow, I'm guessing that if it came down to the Red Sox and Dodgers for Tanner Scott, the fact that the Dodgers are the defending World Series Champions whereas the Red Sox have struggled to get to .500 for the past six seasons had more to do with it than the fact that they didn't agree on a new contract with Jarren Duran before the arbitration deadline.

 

[EverettMike]

Somehow, I'm guessing that if it came down to the Red Sox and Dodgers for Tanner Scott, the fact that the Dodgers are the defending World Series Champions whereas the Red Sox have struggled to get to .500 for the past six seasons had more to do with it than the fact that they didn't agree on a new contract with Jarren Duran before the arbitration deadline.

One of those teams also traded Mookie Betts and the other decided they wanted their hat on his Hall of Fame plaque.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Dodgers better win next 5 WS

I’m told from a good source their goal is to become a dynasty emulating the Patriots 2000-2018. Dynasties live on forever

 

[GatorMike]

One of those teams also traded Mookie Betts and the other decided they wanted their hat on his Hall of Fame plaque.

We've been over this. The Red Sox' competitive window of opportunity had closed by the end of 2019. Even if the Sox had signed Betts to the same deal he got in Los Angeles, they'd have wasted the vast majority of his prime because they wouldn't have had enough around him.

The decision to trade Mookie was based on solid logic. They didn't execute. The players they got in return weren't good enough.

I’m told from a good source their goal is to become a dynasty emulating the Patriots 2000-2018. Dynasties live on forever

Isn't that the goal of basically every team in every sport?

 

[EverettMike]

We've been over this. The Red Sox' competitive window of opportunity had closed by the end of 2019. Even if the Sox had signed Betts to the same deal he got in Los Angeles, they'd have wasted the vast majority of his prime because they wouldn't have had enough around him.

The decision to trade Mookie was based on solid logic. They didn't execute. The players they got in return weren't good enough.


Isn't that the goal of basically every team in every sport?

This is bullshit. They're the Red Sox. They're not the Rays. They could have signed free agents to bridge the gap with prospects.

This made me actually mad.