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Keeping Sorensen we are looking at potentially punting on next year and being in the exact same boat next offseason where no coach or players want to come here
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Toews2Bickell
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lets say this situation plays out and they punt and draft 1st overall...you're saying no coach would want to come here to coach Bedard, Nazar, Rinzel, Levshunov, Knight, Vlasic, Moore, Boisvert etc...Martone/Frondell/Desoyner and McKenna? highly unlikely that would last very long, again the talent on the roster will become undeniable, if any coach says yeah give me an inferior roster then thats on them, someone is going to win with this team if they continue to stack assets and thats a guarantee
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Not likely we draft 1st overall next year no matter what, coaches are not gonna look at the prospect pool they are gonna look at actual NHL players. Need improvement from the players to get a good coach and I don’t think Sorensen is the guy to get the most out of NHL team next year. Don’t need to hire a perfect cup winning coach but have to hire someone else
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if they finish last in some disaster of a year they're going to draft top 3...so swap out McKenna for another top 3 pick if they don't hit the 20% lotto ball or whatever it is, eventually the talent is going to hit the NHL roster and the rebuild will end regardless of who is behind the bench, if the job isn't appealing to mid coaches who want to win now then who cares, the appeal of the job will change real soon
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Again an NHL coach that can develop this next year is most important. Coaches won’t care about how many top 3 picks you have had in the last 5 years. All of this drafting doesn’t matter if you don’t have someone who can help them along and develop them. Not all of these prospects are gonna work out perfect
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Did you see Rinzel logging 25 a night to end the year? Nazar at a 40/40 clip his last 15 or so games? What did Sorensen do to suggest he can't develop the kids they have coming? Stack a few more drafts then when that big fish coach is interested make the move, much like when the Cubs went from Renteria to Maddon, or even Savard to Q, when the roster is brimming with young talent at every position coaches will take notice...give it a year of 'who the f*** is that guy' with players like Rinzel
A coach we don't hear about that was with the organization: John Torchetti, he ran the practices back in the day. I believe he's an assistant with Philly. Would be a good choice. Talked with him at the airport on the way to a tournament in Boston. He was with the Wild then and said The Hawks have a couple Russian kids coming that will be good. The 2 Panerin and Tikhonov.
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Yes I saw those guys and they are awesome Rinzel is for sure the future #1 in my eyes and Nazar is a dog on a bone. That being said a year ago Sorensen was in Rockford and nobody would want him as HC, bedard did not get better under him. This team is better off with a real HC and Sorensen back in Rockford. Can’t just say oh nobody wants to come here so we are gonna go with the coach that is 17-30-9, all I know is Sorensen is not the guy and we can convince an AHL coach or an assistant in NHL with more chops to come here
the one thing I would say for optics is if we go with soroereson we cannot do it in 4-5 weeks. that will look like everybody turned us down.
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It was a 17-30-9 caliber roster, things turned upward when they made the Knight deal and went away from the vet heavy lineup
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The constant line shuffling will not be good for young forwards development
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Did anyone get better under Sorensen? Nazar did but that is expected as a young player learns the league. Donato sure but some of that was chalked up to fixing skating in offseason. I saw no development under him which is the most important aspect of hawks next coach.
Toews2Bickell
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did you watch the last few weeks of the season? Richardson is the guy nobody developed under and thats why he was fired
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The last few weeks of the season were fun but we can surely find an even better coach.
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Allan played better under Richardson
Once Sorensen took over he found himself watching from press box and getting infrequent play
If we stay with him as coach its pretty clear Allan has no future in Chicago with him
Once Sorensen took over he found himself watching from press box and getting infrequent play
If we stay with him as coach its pretty clear Allan has no future in Chicago with him
Toews2Bickell
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bringing Sorensen back makes the future decision really binary...give him the exact same roster he ended the season with plus or minus a couple players and if they jump up in the standings in a significant way then you keep him and if they suck you take your 10-20% equity at McKenna and move on from him...there really isn't a downside to just saying lets try to continue how we ended the year and see where it goes, there is a real downside if you end up with another LR situation
Adam foote canucks new coach he was a assistant. Mostly underwhelming hire is what Twitter is saying. Close with Hughes. But his son i believe is part of the hockey Canada trial. I would give this as a worse higher then Sorenson.
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Bedard needs to improve his skating, when that happens his numbers will take another step
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There's a decent chance Chicago doesn't draft an elite forward this year... so yeah we kinda need to punt on another season out of necessity
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Allan has the lowest ceiling of any defensive prospect he Hawks have. And he played like crap in Rockford when he went down. He’s fallen down the depth chart. He was only on the opening night roster because he was Richardson’s pet despite others being clearly better.
As for Bedard, I just have to shake my head at the notion that a guy who hasn’t yet turned 20 isn’t going to get better. BWC and his butt buddy continue to be a joke.
If Bedard adds a step and gets some real linemates, he’s going to explode.
As for Bedard, I just have to shake my head at the notion that a guy who hasn’t yet turned 20 isn’t going to get better. BWC and his butt buddy continue to be a joke.
If Bedard adds a step and gets some real linemates, he’s going to explode.
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It’s not punting on the season. It’s a few people having their expectations way too high. The team was never competing for the playoffs next year under any circumstances. A high profile coach wouldn’t be changing that.
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Bedard needs to add a step and having better teammates will help, however having a competent coach would help a ton as well. Bedard did not improve under Sorensen, he will get better but I don’t think he will reach his ceiling under sorenson
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There's nothing wrong with punting another season. May as well do this thing right rather than show some artificial signs of progress just to do so. Go get another really high pick and potential star player with that pick.
All these teams still in the Playoffs more or less stunk continuously when the Hawks were in their last window. It's just how it goes. Give yourself a foundation for a future run as long as you manage well. Hawks didn't have their pick in 2021 or 2022 (the Korchinski pick was from DeBrincat trade), and drafted out of a playoff spot in 2020. Rebuilds take forever but are very fruitful for the next hockey generation when done right. I plan to be alive in years like 2031 and 2032. I'd rather see high-end Hawk teams than and take another year of crap for 2026.
All these teams still in the Playoffs more or less stunk continuously when the Hawks were in their last window. It's just how it goes. Give yourself a foundation for a future run as long as you manage well. Hawks didn't have their pick in 2021 or 2022 (the Korchinski pick was from DeBrincat trade), and drafted out of a playoff spot in 2020. Rebuilds take forever but are very fruitful for the next hockey generation when done right. I plan to be alive in years like 2031 and 2032. I'd rather see high-end Hawk teams than and take another year of crap for 2026.
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