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Prospect Info: 2025 NHL Entry Draft

tomd said:
likely ceiling was the term I used...just like Gaucher was supposed to have a middle-six ceiling and now it's pretty clear he's a 4th line guy. Ceilings are routinely not achieved. I love Martin but I'm not sure he's the BEST option at 8OA. But that depends on who is available when the Ducks make their selection. I said about 3 weeks ago that Martin is a total Pat Verbeek pick and I won't cry if they do select him...but I might be a little frustrated depending on who they left on the table...just like the Gaucher pick.
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With how weak this draft is supposed to be it could also be one where they could trade down if they dont have a set guy they want and there is a number they like in the middle range they could pick . #9 (expecting lottery to drop them) for #16 & #17. They could end up with Martin + Bear or Bear + Carboneau.
 
Anaheim4ever said:
With how weak this draft is supposed to be it could also be one where they could trade down if they dont have a set guy they want and there is a number they like in the middle range they could pick . #9 (expecting lottery to drop them) for #16 & #17. They could end up with Martin + Bear or Bear + Carboneau.
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That's fair as long as they understand that Martin and Bear and maybe Charbonneau could all be gone by pick 16. It's a risk they would have to be comfortable with. Martin especially.
 
We're still in the realm of landing the #1 or #2 pick. Who would you be your #1 and #2 prospects you'd want drafted?

For me, #1 is LD Shaefer. At #2, I actually don't know which forward between left shooting C Misa, RW Martone, or left shooting C Frondell. I know the consensus is Misa, but I haven't looked at the top-7 forwards in depth.
 
Hockey Duckie said:
We're still in the realm of landing the #1 or #2 pick. Who would you be your #1 and #2 prospects you'd want drafted?

For me, #1 is LD Shaefer. At #2, I actually don't know which forward between left shooting C Misa, RW Martone, or left shooting C Frondell. I know the consensus is Misa, but I haven't looked at the top-7 forwards in depth.
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Shaefer / Misa without question but I'm not sure about the order yet.
 
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tomd said:
I love the thought of Martin but taking a player at 8OA with a likely ceiling of 3rd line is probably more risky than taking a HR swing on a guy like McQueen or a higher ceiling guy like Eklund.
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I agree that you don't take him that high if you only project him as a third liner. Taking him top 10 would signify a higher projection, gritty top 6 F.
 
Desnoyers is up to 20 points in 9 playoff games. Likely cementing himself into that 3-6 range and out of realistic consideration if we stick at #8. We see it every year, the centers with top 6 potential and pro frames will always be quick off the board.

Schaefer - Misa followed by some combination of Frondell, Desnoyers, O'Brien, Hagens, Martone. I think at this point those are my expected top 7. The three WHL guys (McQueen/Mrtka/Smith) Aitcheson and Eklund seem like the most likely to unseat anyone from that group. McQueen honestly if he went anywhere from 3-15ish I don't know if I could be shocked - seems like a huge wildcard in this draft. Then you have Martin, Bear, Carbonneau who have enough skill and grit to warrant a pick in the back of the top 10 if a team really believes in their top 6 potential. Lakovic has the physical tools to possibly fall in that range as well.

I won't be surprised at all if Martone goes as high as #3, but I also won't be totally shocked if he falls to us at #8. There are enough center and D prospects to make that a possibility
 
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WhatTheDuck said:
Desnoyers is up to 20 points in 9 playoff games. Likely cementing himself into that 3-6 range and out of realistic consideration if we stick at #8. We see it every year, the centers with top 6 potential and pro frames will always be quick off the board.

Schaefer - Misa followed by some combination of Frondell, Desnoyers, O'Brien, Hagens, Martone. I think at this point those are my expected top 7. The three WHL guys (McQueen/Mrtka/Smith) Aitcheson and Eklund seem like the most likely to unseat anyone from that group. McQueen honestly if he went anywhere from 3-15ish I don't know if I could be shocked - seems like a huge wildcard in this draft. Then you have Martin, Bear, Carbonneau who have enough skill and grit to warrant a pick in the back of the top 10 if a team really believes in their top 6 potential. Lakovic has the physical tools to possibly fall in that range as well.

I won't be surprised at all if Martone goes as high as #3, but I also won't be totally shocked if he falls to us at #8. There are enough center and D prospects to make that a possibility
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If Martone falls to us at #8 I’m streaking down Katella
 
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When is the lottery? Honestly, I seem to not find anything on Google today, but I guess that is because I just crossed borders and the results are still Dutch (where nobody gives a f*** about hockey).
 
GermanRocket7 said:
When is the lottery? Honestly, I seem to not find anything on Google today, but I guess that is because I just crossed borders and the results are still Dutch (where nobody gives a f*** about hockey).
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I don't think it's been announced yet. Last year it took place on May 7 (near the start of the 2nd round of the playoffs).
 
ScarTroy said:
If Martone falls to us at #8 I’m streaking down Katella
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Quoting for posterity haha

To be clear, I'm not saying it's likely - just possible.

1) SJ - Schaefer
2) CHI - Misa
3) NSH - Frondell
4) PHI - Hagens
5) BOS - Desnoyers
6) SEA - McQueen
7) BUF - O'Brien

I don't think something like that is too outlandish, and I could definitely see a run of centers starting at #2 that would push Martone down to at least #6.
 
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WhatTheDuck said:
Quoting for posterity haha

To be clear, I'm not saying it's likely - just possible.

1) SJ - Schaefer
2) CHI - Misa
3) NSH - Frondell
4) PHI - Hagens
5) BOS - Desnoyers
6) SEA - McQueen
7) BUF - O'Brien

I don't think something like that is too outlandish, and I could definitely see a run of centers starting at #2 that would push Martone down to at least #6.
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To further complicate the picture, I think that Seattle and Buffalo are candidates to jump in and take a D at 6OA and/or 7OA. The separation between the F and D at that point in the draft is pretty small and in the eye of the beholder. Seattle has loads of offensive prospects but virtually nothing in their pool defensively and most of the D on their NHL roster are 29 and above. Seeing them take either Smith or Mrtka wouldn't surprise me. Buffalo has virtually no RHD depth in their entire organization so them taking Mrtka wouldn't surprise me.
 
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tomd said:
To further complicate the picture, I think that Seattle and Buffalo are candidates to jump in and take a D at 6OA and/or 7OA. The separation between the F and D at that point in the draft is pretty small and in the eye of the beholder. Seattle has loads of offensive prospects but virtually nothing in their pool defensively and most of the D on their NHL roster are 29 and above. Seeing them take either Smith or Mrtka wouldn't surprise me. Buffalo has virtually no RHD depth in their entire organization so them taking Mrtka wouldn't surprise me.
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I think one could make the argument that the range we are in at 8 (barring lottery movement of course) really happens to be where this questionable draft class actually seems to be comparatively at it's strongest. The generational or surefire franchise talent may not be there at the top, and the depth of talent definitely doesn't extend well into round two like other years. But from 3-15 this crop seems pretty well stocked with guys who seem like legitimate top 5-10 picks in a given year. I really like our chances of landing another good one here
 
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WhatTheDuck said:
I think one could make the argument that the range we are in at 8 (barring lottery movement of course) really happens to be where this questionable draft class actually seems to be comparatively at it's strongest. The generational or surefire franchise talent may not be there at the top, and the depth of talent definitely doesn't extend well into round two like other years. But from 3-15 this crop seems pretty well stocked with guys who seem like legitimate top 5-10 picks in a given year. I really like our chances of landing another good one here
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I agree...Ducks should get a good (but probably not great) prospect at 8OA. I think the expectation should be that they'll get a middle of the lineup type player who (if a forward) could have 2nd line ceiling and (if a defenseman) 2nd pairing ceiling. The exception is McQueen who has a 1st line ceiling but obviously added risk as well.
 
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All Mighty said:
He's a center. I do question if Seattle would be the team to pick him, but Nashville, Philly, and Boston all really need centers so he could definitely go in that range. Maybe Buffalo, too.
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IMO the teams picking in the top 5 can all get an excellent C prospects without the need to take the risk that McQueen brings. Seattle and Buffalo are possibilities but I am hoping they like other players...especially on D. I'd love to have him drop to the Ducks.
 
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