2025 NHL DRAFT

[Daximus]

So the Athletic did a "if we were GM's" mock draft with Pronman, Wheeler, and Bultman rotating picks. When it got to #28 Wheeler was drafting for the Jets and he took Benjamin Kindel from Calgary who is a 5'10" 176 pound centre that put up a very impressive 99 points.

Wonder how the rest of the draft went that Kindel fell to us. I'd assume he goes top 25.

 

[RabidOne]

So the Athletic did a "if we were GM's" mock draft with Pronman, Wheeler, and Bultman rotating picks. When it got to #28 Wheeler was drafting for the Jets and he took Benjamin Kindel from Calgary who is a 5'10" 176 pound centre that put up a very impressive 99 points.

WHL: Benjamin Kindel - Neutral Zone - Men's

Ben Kindel (C, R, 5’10”, 176, Calgary Hitmen, 04/19/2007) Benjamin Kindel is an intelligent, highly skilled, and competitive two-way center with excellent vision and playmaking ability. Despite being slightly undersized... Read more

neutralzone.com

Looks like a good pick. At 18 if he can gain an inch and a few pounds he cloud be Brian little-esque?

 

[WolfHouse]

So the Athletic did a "if we were GM's" mock draft with Pronman, Wheeler, and Bultman rotating picks. When it got to #28 Wheeler was drafting for the Jets and he took Benjamin Kindel from Calgary who is a 5'10" 176 pound centre that put up a very impressive 99 points.

No thanks

Plus hes listed as RW in other sites

 

[WolfHouse]

Think id go
Ravensbergen
Limatov
Wang
Ryabkin

 

[ps241]

I'd be shocked if he's still there when we draft.

I said the same thing about Ehlers, Connor, and Perfetti on their respective draft days and couldn't believe those guys fell to us.

On the flip side I remember like it was yesterday in 2016 with our second pick in the first round (after Laine) I was very much hoping that one of McAvoy (14th), Chychrun (16th), or Fabbro (17th) would fall to us. I was really excited when we got to 14th and they were all still undrafted but sadly unlike the other seasons I watched my wish list melt away one at a time before we traded up for Stanley at #18.

I will try to generate my wish list again for this draft.

 

[ps241]

Wonder how the rest of the draft went that Kindel fell to us. I'd assume he goes top 25.

Yea I am going to dig in a bit more on all these guys after the Black Book comes out. I always like to go through their very detailed player break downs then the ones that stand out I try to watch video on them (shift by shift is preferred).

 

[Daximus]

Yea I am going to dig in a bit more on all these guys after the Black Book comes out. I always like to go through their very detailed player break downs then the ones that stand out I try to watch video on them (shift by shift is preferred).

Shift by shift is the only way to go. Watching highlights shows you nothing but the good parts.

 

[ps241]

Shift by shift is the only way to go. Watching highlights shows you nothing but the good parts.

100%

Shift by shift is the only way to go for sure. a touch more boring but that is where you get the details of their game.

 

[Mathil8]

Here are some numbers - all drafted goalies (and undrafted goalies who played a game) since 2000:

Rnd	Drafted	Wins	SV%	Success	Success Rate
1	32	3732	.898	16	50%
2	72	3090	.904	23	32%
3	86	2843	.883	18	21%
4	80	1494	.892	10	13%
5	108	1107	.910	8	7%
6	104	797	.909	8	8%
7	90	1233	.891	6	7%
8	17	490	.853	2	12%
9	13	574	.912	2	15%
Undrafted	31	2794	.905	20	65%

Success for the purposes of this table is defined as 100 games played, so the bar isn't too high (if you set it at 200 games, the R1 success rate drops from 50% to 34%).

The Undrafted success rate is going to be skewed because the set of undrafted goalies who never played in the NHL includes a lot of players (including Buffdog?)...so there's quite a selection bias there.

Here is a chart of the number of goalies drafted in each round and the aggregate SV% of that round's goalies:
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They stopped drafting after round 7 in 2005, so it's a small sample.

The scatter plot of all goalies drafted since 2000 doesn't show much in the way of a strong trend in terms of SV%.
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I wonder how much the results are affected due to sunk-cost fallacy. Goalies taken earlier are probably more likely to get more games and rope in which to prove themselves regardless of results.

Cool data. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Gm0ney]

I wonder how much the results are affected due to sunk-cost fallacy. Goalies taken earlier are probably more likely to get more games and rope in which to prove themselves regardless of results.

Cool data. Thanks for sharing!

Well, you can't really shelter a goalie too much if he just isn't good enough. You can play him against bad teams, but if you're also a bad team (or on the bubble) he's not going to have a very long leash.

 

[Mathil8]

Well, you can't really shelter a goalie too much if he just isn't good enough. You can play him against bad teams, but if you're also a bad team (or on the bubble) he's not going to have a very long leash.

Good point. It wouldn't (shouldn't) be an issue in regards to reaching your success measure of 100 gp,

 

[lanky]

Think id go
Ravensbergen
Limatov
Wang
Ryabkin

Ryabkin
West
Paupanekis