jgimp
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I don't ever see the Jets picking a goalie in the 1st round. I think they should take at least one goalie in every draft, but it's not in their M.O to take one early.
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jgimp
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I'd love to thin out some of the dead weight like Stanley and Heinola. Each should garner 4th or 5th rounders i would think to some teams with an open 3D spot. Move Schenn while we are at it. Miller is better and Salo will be pushing for a spot.
The more picks the better
I believe Mason West played RW this year, but normally plays C. He's my top preference for a big C at 28.
Horcoff is definitely a big C but might be more in a defensive mould.
Gastrin would be a safe pick, he's got the defensive acumen and some upside too, but he's more average in size.
I like the upside of local boy Paupanekis. I think his production is gonna pop next season on his way to the Memorial Cup, with Iginla on his wing. He's always rated below the 1st round, so a bit of a stretch at 28.
Horcoff is definitely a big C but might be more in a defensive mould.
Gastrin would be a safe pick, he's got the defensive acumen and some upside too, but he's more average in size.
I like the upside of local boy Paupanekis. I think his production is gonna pop next season on his way to the Memorial Cup, with Iginla on his wing. He's always rated below the 1st round, so a bit of a stretch at 28.
I like going with NHL bloodlines, feels like these guys usually end up making the NHL
I have to admit I never watched him play but his numbers are sure there,being 5'9" scares me as a center but it doesn't mean as much if he has the dogged determination like Carter bear.
Highest we have ever drafted a goalie is 2nd round 59th overall. Of all of the goalies we have drafted only 1, maybe 2 have truly panned out so far. I think taking a swing at 28th overall wouldn't be to much of an issue. Who knows if he's on their radar. Not having a 2nd this year makes it tougher as well to take a goalie in the 1st.
If they did I wouldn't be opposed to it, but would understand if they would have reservations about it.
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2025 draft order from picks 1 to 28:
1. New York Islanders
2. San Jose Sharks
3. Chicago Blackhawks
4. Utah Mammoth
5. Nashville Predators
6. Philadelphia Flyers
7. Boston Bruins
8. Seattle Kraken
9. Buffalo Sabres
10. Anaheim Ducks
11. Pittsburgh Penguins
12. New York Rangers
13. Detroit Red Wings
14. Columbus Blue Jackets
15. Vancouver Canucks
16. Montreal Canadiens (from Calgary Flames)
17. Montreal Canadiens
18. Calgary Flames (from New Jersey Devils)
19. St. Louis Blues
20. Columbus Blue Jackets (from Minnesota Wild)
21. Ottawa Senators
22. Philadelphia Flyers (from Colorado Avalanche)
23. Nashville Predators (from Tampa Bay Lightning)
24. Los Angeles Kings
25. Chicago Blackhawks (from Toronto Maple Leafs)
26. Nashville Predators (from Vegas Golden Knights via San Jose Sharks)
27. Washington Capitals
28. Winnipeg Jets
1. New York Islanders
2. San Jose Sharks
3. Chicago Blackhawks
4. Utah Mammoth
5. Nashville Predators
6. Philadelphia Flyers
7. Boston Bruins
8. Seattle Kraken
9. Buffalo Sabres
10. Anaheim Ducks
11. Pittsburgh Penguins
12. New York Rangers
13. Detroit Red Wings
14. Columbus Blue Jackets
15. Vancouver Canucks
16. Montreal Canadiens (from Calgary Flames)
17. Montreal Canadiens
18. Calgary Flames (from New Jersey Devils)
19. St. Louis Blues
20. Columbus Blue Jackets (from Minnesota Wild)
21. Ottawa Senators
22. Philadelphia Flyers (from Colorado Avalanche)
23. Nashville Predators (from Tampa Bay Lightning)
24. Los Angeles Kings
25. Chicago Blackhawks (from Toronto Maple Leafs)
26. Nashville Predators (from Vegas Golden Knights via San Jose Sharks)
27. Washington Capitals
28. Winnipeg Jets
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jgimp
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Goalies are so voodoo. If we were rocking a bunch of 2nd rounders as well as our 1st, Id say go for it.
At this stage if there is nothing of interest at 28, I'd be OK trading back and trying to get a few more darts to throw. Clean up some of thr depth fodder we are never going to use as well. Trade Stanley, Heinola, Gus etc. Move on and get some more pics, even if they are later. Try and recover a 2nd by trading Schenn at 1/2 retained and resign Miller. He was so much better and seemed to fit in well.
Gil Fisher
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Logan Hensler pops up on a lot of draft rankings around the end of the first round.
6'2", 200 lb RHD at U of Wisconsin
6'2", 200 lb RHD at U of Wisconsin
Gil Fisher
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Flyers have 7 picks before the middle of the 2nd round
IF we traded back for the CBJ and CGY picks, the names in the 35-55 range aren't much of a drop-off:
Cole Mckinley, C
Simon Wang, LHD
Shane Vansaghi, C/RW
Luca Romano, RW
Alex Huang, RHD
Mason West, C
William Horcoff, C
Henry Brzustewicz, RHD
Better off with two of those than a Logan Hensler?
IF we traded back for the CBJ and CGY picks, the names in the 35-55 range aren't much of a drop-off:
Cole Mckinley, C
Simon Wang, LHD
Shane Vansaghi, C/RW
Luca Romano, RW
Alex Huang, RHD
Mason West, C
William Horcoff, C
Henry Brzustewicz, RHD
Better off with two of those than a Logan Hensler?
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Goalies are only voodoo because you can't look at a stat sheet and say this guy could be an NHLer based on his numbers. You actually have to get eyes on them, watch how they play, how they handle pressure. That throws a lot of armchair stat based scouting for a loop because they don't really know what makes a good goalie just that they can't use their numbers to predict who will become a good goalie. The fact of the matter is most of the top tier goalies in the league are found within the top 3 rounds.
Vasilevsky - 19th
Oettinger - 26th
Markstrom - 31st
Demko - 36th
Gibson - 39th
Blackwood - 42nd
Stolarz - 45th
Gustavsson - 55th
Hill - 76th
Sorokin - 78th
Binnington - 88th
Fans think the Jets just throw darts at the board hoping one sticks but they do their due diligence when scouting for a goalie. They will do the same with Ravensberg and if they deem him to be good enough I don't see why they wouldn't take him.
Gil Fisher
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after pouring through the data for a good 7-8 minutes, it does seem like 2nd to 4th round is the sweet spot for drafting goalies. probably more confirmation bias when you miss on a goalie with your first pick as opposed to a skater. but if the Jets aren't enamoured by the options at 28 and like Ravensberg, the timing is good for developing a top rated goalie.
This is perhaps the first year when it might make sense to draft a goalie with a higher level pick. There's 5-6 year window for development before a major role as Hellebuyck's replacement. But it's a long-range investment with pretty low success probabilities. But that's sort of what you'd expect from a 28th pick.
jgimp
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I have no doubt that teams do their diligence when it comes to scouting. I was just indicating (in my previous posts), that the Jets picking a goalie in the 1st few rounds really isn't in their M.O. If Ravensbergen is available at 28 and he's BPA, I'm fine taking him, I just dont see it happening as he will either probably be off the board at the time or the Jets aren't comfortable spending a 1st on a goalie. We definitely need a high end G prospect though, that much I will admit.
I only say goalies are voodoo in the fact that it's a position strongly based on confidence. Some have the mental fortutude and are able to build on that confidence, especially considering the length of time it takes to develop. It's got to be grueling on the psyche. It takes a special individual to be a goalie.
I still think we need to clear the deck of our depth fodder that we are not going to play. Stanley, Heinola, Gus etc. Turn them into mid to late draft picks like He and Walton.
jgimp
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I've read alot about his lack of IQ. Lots of tools with no toolbox comes to mind.
voyageur
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I'm still interested in Jack Nesbitt in this spot. He just seems like the kind of center you want, that isn't on the smaller side like Yager. The Jets have traditionally stayed pretty big up the middle, and it seems like Nesbitt is a real center unlike Perfetti or Lambert.
Thing is I have seen him anywhere from 15-42 on draft boards.
Thing is I have seen him anywhere from 15-42 on draft boards.
CorgisPer60
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Seen him play many times, He went head to head with Cattan in the Royals second round playoff series, matched him point for point. Dog on a bone. He is a playmaker but has a do whatever it takes mentality. He is al leader and been incredible in international play.
Us Royals fans are already losing our minds over next years team when Reschny and Keaton Verhoff will be a year older. Should be the best team we have ever had.
I like Ravensbergen but he did not have a good playoff with Prince George.
One goalie flying under the radar is Giants starter Burke Hood, a 17 year old from Brandon with incredible composure in the net who cemented itself as the starter on a rising Giants team.
I am very stoked to see him next year and that Giants team.
True, he has gotten much better skater, so not as nervous, but he wont be in our range anyway
He had a rough first couple of games but given PGs play he largely kept them in it. If they could score on the PP they would have went a lot further. It's the typical situation of run support just wasn't there.
Joe Hallenback
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Couple of later round guys from the WHL I would like to see them pick up are Jonas Woo,Owen Martin and Mathew Gard
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