Prospect Info: 2025 NHL DRAFT

[herzausstein]

6th puts us in Martone, Desnoyers, McQueen Eklund maybe Frondell territory

Still not too bad....

Would really like a shot a misa though

 

[Kat Predator]

Do we need to start preparing for missing out on our unicorn and getting a nice shiny acorn instead?

 

[Scoresberg]

NOT getting a premium talent like Misa, Hagens or Frondell after a year like this is a MASSIVE disappointment. McQueen is probably the guy I like most from the next tier but even with him, I'm not that convinced. Martone has offensive punch but man, he has heavy boots under him.

After seeing the 4 Nations Tournament, I believe skating will be even more crucial in the game as it has been before. Slower guys who are not overly physical won't have much impact on the game. The tomwilsons or matthewtkachuk's won't go out of style, however, and they'll be unicorns one day.

That's actually why I prefer Hagens the most at this draft. He may not have crazy numbers in the NCAA but to my eye, he's the best skater in the draft, just absolutely brilliant.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

I think we would be happy with Eklund or Desnoyers

I think Desnoyers could become like a Bergeron type guy

I think Eklund could become a very productive winger for us

NOT getting a premium talent like Misa, Hagens or Frondell after a year like this is a MASSIVE disappointment. McQueen is probably the guy I like most from the next tier but even with him, I'm not that convinced. Martone has offensive punch but man, he has heavy boots under him.

After seeing the 4 Nations Tournament, I believe skating will be even more crucial in the game as it has been before. Slower guys who are not overly physical won't have much impact on the game. The tomwilsons or matthewtkachuk's won't go out of style, however, and they'll be unicorns one day.

That's actually why I prefer Hagens the most at this draft. He may not have crazy numbers in the NCAA but to my eye, he's the best skater in the draft, just absolutely brilliant.

I think we could see Hagens fall to us too , if anyone is going to drop from the top guys I could see it be him because of his size and mid numbers as a freshman

 

[Scoresberg]

I think we would be happy with Eklund or Desnoyers

I think Desnoyers could become like a Bergeron type guy

I think Eklund could become a very productive winger for us

Desnoyers has unconvincing numbers in the Q - a league known for high-scoring.

Eklund's putting up some good numbers in Sweden but he's a winger after all. I mean, at this point, we'll take all the talent we can get but man, it would be disappointing to walk away from this season NOT having the premium center talent we've been after for 25+ years.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

His PNHLe shows first line upside



This guy thinks if he can improve his shot he can be a 1st line center

Very similar game to Sean Coutrier

 

[hockey diva]

I want a top skater who doesn't have hands of stone and high hockey IQ. Is that a ?

 

[Scoresberg]

His PNHLe shows first line upside



This guy thinks if he can improve his shot he can be a 1st line center

Very similar game to Sean Coutrier

I'm not arguing with you about Desnoyers, in a vacuum. He's probably a good player and has legit top-six upside as a center (although probably closer to a 2nd line C than 1st line).

What I'm saying is that after all the s**t that we've gone through this year and to kickstart the re-tool in a proper way, we need more than just players who might become something. We need ACTUAL elite, high-end talent. To me, Desnoyers is not that.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Hearing Emma on her pod yesterday say the fans shouldn't be rooting for the team losing games because "the difference between 3 and 5 doesn't matter" shows you how much she doesn't actually follow this draft class. There is a massive dip in talent in THIS draft from 3 to 5.

Normally I would agree but not this year.

 

[Viqsi]

Do we need to start preparing for missing out on our unicorn and getting a nice shiny acorn instead?

Arguably that should have been something to brace for from Day 1. That's unfortunately how this sort of thing will frequently go.

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[Viqsi]

Hearing Emma on her pod yesterday say the fans shouldn't be rooting for the team losing games because "the difference between 3 and 5 doesn't matter" shows you how much she doesn't actually follow this draft class. There is a massive dip in talent in THIS draft from 3 to 5.

Normally I would agree but not this year.

The real reason to not be rooting for losses is because it destroys the soul. Accept them with equanimity, sure, but hoping for them is self-destructive; it leads to things like hating players that rational folks would love because they keep playing hard and thus leading to wins, then seeing then traded away and flourish elsewhere such that you end up hating them even more for not flourishing like that here. It's poison that f***s up your motivations in following the game.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

The real reason to not be rooting for losses is because it destroys the soul. Accept them with equanimity, sure, but hoping for them is self-destructive; it leads to things like hating players that rational folks would love because they keep playing hard and thus leading to wins, then seeing then traded away and flourish elsewhere such that you end up hating them even more for not flourishing like that here. It's poison that f***s up your motivations in following the game.

Hmm, I don't think it has to be like that. Or maybe I'm just not invested enough for it to ever impact me like that? Or maybe it would just have to be going on for many many years in order for it to reach that state?

Anyway, I feel like I can quite comfortably make a detached decision to wish for losses in our final 20 games of this abysmal season, and actually think of that as fostering hope and optimism, because every loss does provide a tangibly better opportunity to get one of the top 3 picks in the upcoming draft, which would legitimately help our organization get back on track towards winning more games in the future.

It has taken quite a lot for some of us to get to this state, I know I'm not the only one who has always defended staying in the so-called "mushy middle" vs. consciously rebuilding and trying to move up from the middle or hope for a miracle playoff run. I've never supported tanking and losing before in the past. But we're in uncharted waters now with these final 20 games, and I'm confident it won't poison my soul to cheer for losses, not any more than my soul is already poisoned by watching the trades Trotz makes, or seeing Brunette behind the bench, or even simply the lineup every night.

 

[Viqsi]

Hmm, I don't think it has to be like that. Or maybe I'm just not invested enough for it to ever impact me like that? Or maybe it would just have to be going on for many many years in order for it to reach that state?

Anyway, I feel like I can quite comfortably make a detached decision to wish for losses in our final 20 games of this abysmal season, and actually think of that as fostering hope and optimism, because every loss does provide a tangibly better opportunity to get one of the top 3 picks in the upcoming draft, which would legitimately help our organization get back on track towards winning more games in the future.

It has taken quite a lot for some of us to get to this state, I know I'm not the only one who has always defended staying in the so-called "mushy middle" vs. consciously rebuilding and trying to move up from the middle or hope for a miracle playoff run. I've never supported tanking and losing before in the past. But we're in uncharted waters now with these final 20 games, and I'm confident it won't poison my soul to cheer for losses, not any more than my soul is already poisoned by watching the trades Trotz makes, or seeing Brunette behind the bench, or even simply the lineup every night.

It starts out feeling easy like that but it drags you down in the end.

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

Im doubly cheering for losses, both to improve our pick and make it more likely the Two Stooges get fired. We can't succeed until they do, so might as well have it happen fast.

 

[wmupreds]

I think the whole debate is silly, there's no right or wrong way to be a fan. If you can't bring yourself to hope for losses, don't. Personally I've just stopped going out of my way at all to watch the games for now. If I have nothing else going on I'll turn it on. Otherwise sure. It doesn't have to be that deep

 

[Viqsi]

I think the whole debate is silly, there's no right or wrong way to be a fan. If you can't bring yourself to hope for losses, don't. Personally I've just stopped going out of my way at all to watch the games for now. If I have nothing else going on I'll turn it on. Otherwise sure. It doesn't have to be that deep

I'm not trying to present it as "the wrong way to be a fan", I just think it's self-destructive.

 

[Thundr70]

Its doesnt matter if this team tanks or not, whatever pick the predators get that player will dissappear in the system somewhere that is not the with the Nashville predators. The development process for the Preds has been and always will be subpar and that player will pull get frustrated and pull a "Vesey", Or lets say he gets a shot with the team, under this managment he will only get 8 to 9 min a night and when the team keeps losing he get blame for meeting expectation, he will then get traded for nothing or put on a waivers and get "Novy or Parsnip".

 

[originalpredfan]

I'm at the point where I want the Preds to do well, but losing the game doesn't upset me. My main concern is that next year I will have to watch Trotz get schooled again by other GM's and that Bruno will still be behind the bench. I've invested quite a lot in this franchise both financially and emotionally from day 1 and it really concerns me to see the direction it is headed in because ownership will not do what needs to be done.

 

[Kiseo]

I’ve been so detached seeing this team play with no direction, no identity, and little heart. I will never condone tanking but we are so close (close as we have e ever been) of a top 3 pick, I am embracing the suck. Going 10-10 in the last 20 games is not going to give me any more hope than a top 3 pick.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

Really like Justin Carbonneau /Ryabkin

Would love to see us package both late 1sts with our 2nds and move up in Round 1 with our tertiary picks

Imagine...

4th/5th Overall: Hagens

20th Overall: Carbonneau

25th overall Ryabkin

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Here is my updated top 30:

1. Schaefer
2. Misa
3. Frondell
4. Desnoyers
5. Hagens
6. Martone
7. Mrtka
8. O’Brien
9. Eklund
10. Martin
11. Reid
12. McQueen
13. Carbonneau
14. Gastrin
15. Smith
16. Hensler
17. Aitcheson
18. Potter
19. Bear
20. Kindel
21. Nesbitt
22. Klingsell
23. Fiddler
24. Nilson
25. Boumedienne
26. Ihs Wozniak
27. McKinney
28. Reschny
29. Brzustewicz
30. Lakovic

I don't include goalies, but Ravensberger would be decent choice for us in late 1st.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

Good video discussing upside of the 2025 crop...starts at 24 min

 

[NoNecksCurse]

So with the tampas pick we have to pick Vernon's kid right? Just like we should of picked Yanic's kid 2 years ago. Keep it in the family. In all seriousness I think Blake Fiddler would be a solid pickup with the tampa pick

Vernon Fiddler did more for this franchise than this band of "serial winners" could ever dream of.

Hearing Emma on her pod yesterday say the fans shouldn't be rooting for the team losing games because "the difference between 3 and 5 doesn't matter" shows you how much she doesn't actually follow this draft class. There is a massive dip in talent in THIS draft from 3 to 5.

Normally I would agree but not this year.

Emma is the result of many things I will not mention here. She should be ignored and relieved of her duties.

 

[Scoresberg]

Here is my updated top 30:

1. Schaefer
2. Misa
3. Frondell
4. Desnoyers
5. Hagens
6. Martone
7. Mrtka
8. O’Brien
9. Eklund
10. Martin
11. Reid
12. McQueen
13. Carbonneau
14. Gastrin
15. Smith
16. Hensler
17. Aitcheson
18. Potter
19. Bear
20. Kindel
21. Nesbitt
22. Klingsell
23. Fiddler
24. Nilson
25. Boumedienne
26. Ihs Wozniak
27. McKinney
28. Reschny
29. Brzustewicz
30. Lakovic

I don't include goalies, but Ravensberger would be decent choice for us in late 1st.

Good list. Would love to hear your reasoning as to why McQueen is so low, and why Desnoyers is top-five? Also, Smith seems a bit low as well, I think he’s a borderline top-10 talent in this draft.