2025 NHL Draft: We got #2!

[Wedontneedroads]

NYI did lose their last top pick to FA when Tavares left. Hagens would never leave and would probably be very reasonable when negotiating his contracts. He was also the consensus #1 pick at the beginning of the season. There is intrinsic value there, but probably not enough to overcome the gap between Hagens and Schaefer.

 

[Roasted Nuts]

So both the Mavericks and the Islanders jumped up from 11th place to win their respective lotteries? Sounds suspicious

 

[gaucholoco3]

I meant everyone wanted Calgary to trade up for him because of the nepotistic story.

They were always unlikely to trade up for him but it is likely he was their pick if he lasted to them.

 

[SJS1991]

NYI did lose their last top pick to FA when Tavares left. Hagens would never leave and would probably be very reasonable when negotiating his contracts. He was also the consensus #1 pick at the beginning of the season. There is intrinsic value there, but probably not enough to overcome the gap between Hagens and Schaefer.

This is an opinion and not fact. If the NYI were terrible his whole career there… I’m sure he would look to move on for a chance to win.

 

[Patty Ice]

This is an opinion and not fact. If the NYI were terrible his whole career there… I’m sure he would look to move on for a chance to win.

Isn't that an opinion presented as fact too?

 

[SJS1991]

Isn't that an opinion presented as fact too?

They said “would never” I said “I’m sure”… my statement wasn’t affirmative.

And my statement provided a scenario in which Hagens could very well look to move. Just because he is from there and was a fan doesn’t mean the NYI can do whatever.

It’s a silly idea.

 

[Patty Ice]

They said “would never” I said “I’m sure”… my statement wasn’t affirmative.

And my statement provided a scenario in which Hagens could very well look to move. Just because he is from there and was a fan doesn’t mean the NYI can do whatever.

It’s a silly idea.

I'm sure that "I'm sure" is an affirmative statement.

 

[jMoneyBrah]

I understand it perfectly. Unfortunately, you were so overeager to make this post that you skipped reading what it was in response to.


I eagerly await you explaining to me how Hockey Canada, who was roundly criticized for their performance, is an expert on how good Misa will be in the pros.

I have never said that if we had the choice that I wouldn't prefer to pick Schaefer over Misa. But that choice is the Islanders' choice, not ours.

That’s me, just chomping at the bit with the hot takes. That said, I take your point on the Team Canada not meeting the expert opinion exception; which is arguable, but hey I see your perspective.

I was wrong to tag you in my post, this time. I’ll look forward to the next time when I can tag you in my overeager hot takes

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Edmonton looks determined to go the whole way this year, and I don’t see Dallas stopping them even with Rantanen heroics. Should get 28 pick at least

If Dallas makes it to the Conference Finals, their pick would be 29 or 30 if they lose then. They need to lose now to Winnipeg to be able to keep their pick at 28 or better.

 

[Patty Ice]

chomping at the bit

Champing.

Forgive me but I enjoy people looking it up and discovering that. I used to say "nip it in the butt" (thanks mom!) instead of "bud."

 

[Wedontneedroads]

This is an opinion and not fact. If the NYI were terrible his whole career there… I’m sure he would look to move on for a chance to win.

They said “would never” I said “I’m sure”… my statement wasn’t affirmative.

And my statement provided a scenario in which Hagens could very well look to move. Just because he is from there and was a fan doesn’t mean the NYI can do whatever.

It’s a silly idea.

I'm sure that "I'm sure" is an affirmative statement.

Would never vs I’m sure. The great offseason debate of 25’…

Could he leave at the end of his career to chase a cup if NYI sucks for his entire time there? Sure.

I’m talking about his first UFA contract and how JT screwed over NYI by taking less money and term to go home. Hagens would already be home.

I still think NYI goes Schaefer, but I disagree with the take that there is no value in drafting home town players who genuinely want to play in your city.

 

[SJS1991]

Would never vs I’m sure. The great offseason debate of 25’…

Could he leave at the end of his career to chase a cup if NYI sucks for his entire time there? Sure.

I’m talking about his first UFA contract and how JT screwed over NYI by taking less money and term to go home. Hagens would already be home.

I still think NYI goes Schaefer, but I disagree with the take that there is no value in drafting home town players who genuinely want to play in your city.

So you think if the Islanders are Sabers level terrible and dysfunctional for Hagens’ club controlled years that he resigns back into that?

End of career, I would view as like mid 30s and on, well past his first UFA contract.

I don’t know how realistic that is. With the Islanders situation, there aren’t guarantees they are going to become some model of winning with the new leadership (they very well could, and maybe everyone is being positive and the belief is they take Hagens and management will figure out the winning and this is a hockey fairy tale story for them… if so fair enough).

The “good ol’ local kid” just seems to be carrying a lot of weight in the thinking with Hagens… is all I’m saying.

 

[Sleeper Shark]

Yet another mock puts NYI on a C (Hagens this time) -- lots of click chasing. All these mocks not going Schaefer probably guarantees they do, hah.

Thread 'Upside's 2025 NHL Mock Draft 2.0: Post-Lottery Edition'

May 12, 2025

Upside Hockey takes a stab at this futile prediction task...

"To be clear, this is not our rankings. For the NHL Draft Lottery Edition of our exclusive 2025 NHL Draft Rankings head to our 2025 NHL Draft Headquarters. Though often an exercise in futility, it is nonetheless a fun exercise to work through to project where prospects may land. Here’s our take; your thoughts are welcomed."

Note up front: though this mock contains no official trades the assumption on pick #1 is the Islanders will do something sort of unconventional (essentially equivalent of trading back a draft a slot or...

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To this end, its interesting to look back at the 2013 draft and see how highly rated Seth Jones was in relation to MacK, Barkov, and Drouin. There was discussion for him at 1OA, and he obviously dropped to 4OA.

This draft is looking really similar in that there is arguably core of top 4 guys that could go in any particular order. Ya, Schaefer might have pulled away from the pack slightly more than Jones did in 2013, but the precedent is there for GMs to take high upside centers with top picks. Imagine if Colorado or Florida had picked Jones.

This is all to say that Schaefer going 1OA may not be as surefire a thing as most here are projecting.

2013 Mock Draft: 2 Rounds of (Slightly) Educated Guessing

It’s that time of the year again — mock draft time. With less than a week until the 2013 NHL Entry Draft in Newark, N.J., on June 30th, prospect junkies from around the world are taking their best …

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[matt trick]

Flyers fans are doing a full mock draft @LT is crushing it, though I'd have preferred Ravensbergen over Schmidt. Misa, Hensler, and Behm are positional needs and near BPA. Schmidt has loads of upside, but I know how some here feel about smurfs.


1-2: Michael Misa, C/LW, Saginaw (OHL)
1-28: Logan Hensler, RHD, Wisconsin (NCAA)
2-33: Cameron Schmidt, RW, Vancouver (WHL)
2-53: Nathan Behm, RW, Kamloops (WHL)

Champing.

Forgive me but I enjoy people looking it up and discovering that. I used to say "nip it in the butt" (thanks mom!) instead of "bud."

No shit. Never knew the first one. Knew nip in the bud, I'm not a moran



(yes I know!)

 

[TheBeard]

Flyers fans are doing a full mock draft @LT is crushing it, though I'd have preferred Ravensbergen over Schmidt. Misa, Hensler, and Behm are positional needs and near BPA. Schmidt has loads of upside, but I know how some here feel about smurfs.


1-2: Michael Misa, C/LW, Saginaw (OHL)
1-28: Logan Hensler, RHD, Wisconsin (NCAA)
2-33: Cameron Schmidt, RW, Vancouver (WHL)
2-53: Nathan Behm, RW, Kamloops (WHL)



No shit. Never knew the first one. Knew nip in the bud, I'm not a moran



(yes I know!)

I just can't see any scenario Hensler drops to 28

 

[matt trick]

I just can't see any scenario Hensler drops to 28

Agreed, there is no chance! I do like something like as opposed to 'top prospect lists' in that you get something of an aggregation to the mean, though there are always a few surprises on draft day.

That said, a 6'2/6'3 RHD who skates well and moves the puck well. Ideal candidate to stash for 2-3 more years in college, sign to a contract after his junior/senior season (burn a year of ELC), and develop in the AHL. 3-5 years from now you have a readymade $4-5M defenseman at $900k. His offense isn't there yet, but feels like he could be a Justin Braun type prospect who locks down your 2nd pair RD spot for a decade. If it develops maybe we have our own Sam Rinzel.

I much, much prefer him to Fiddler, who I do think will be available (edit, should say: may; he'll probably be around that spot)

 

[dmcccdmn]

Would never vs I’m sure. The great offseason debate of 25’…

Could he leave at the end of his career to chase a cup if NYI sucks for his entire time there? Sure.

I’m talking about his first UFA contract and how JT screwed over NYI by taking less money and term to go home. Hagens would already be home.

I still think NYI goes Schaefer, but I disagree with the take that there is no value in drafting home town players who genuinely want to play in your city.

Schaefer is a Leafs fan. PTSD trigger for Islanders fan base:

 

[weastern bias]

Holy batman, did anyone see the NBA draft lottery result? A team with 1.8% chance of getting #1 pick won the 1OA. And they just give the result and not showing ping pong balls bouncing. I'm glad the NHL was transparent with the ping pong. The NBA draft doesn't show any of that. They just come out and say who picks where. Wow.

The team with the worst record in the NBA picked 5OA. We're lucky the Sharks are picking 2OA in the NHL.

Edit: So I just saw another video, and apparently they had another event that had the ping pong balls with a seemingly similar machine that the NHL used. Interesting.

Dallas trades their 25 year old superstar to the Lakers

They win the lotto 3 month later with 1% odds

I believe in conspiracies now

 

[Juxtaposer]

Flyers fans are doing a full mock draft @LT is crushing it, though I'd have preferred Ravensbergen over Schmidt. Misa, Hensler, and Behm are positional needs and near BPA. Schmidt has loads of upside, but I know how some here feel about smurfs.


1-2: Michael Misa, C/LW, Saginaw (OHL)
1-28: Logan Hensler, RHD, Wisconsin (NCAA)
2-33: Cameron Schmidt, RW, Vancouver (WHL)
2-53: Nathan Behm, RW, Kamloops (WHL)

Definitely wouldn’t be mad about this at all. With Misa and Hensler in the bank, I’m cool with Schmidt at 33 (I think he has the chance to be a legit top-6 player, he’s got that small guy it-factor you want to see and he can absolutely FLY) even if there are a couple names I’d maybe take over him (Ravensbergen as you said, Nilsson, McKinney, Zharovsky maybe). The name still on the board where they took Behm that I would sprint to call would be Vaclav Nestrasil. That guy simply SCREAMS “Mike Grier picking in the 25-40 range”. Shane Vansaghi is someone I’d probably take over Behm, even if it’s leaving some upside on the table—I always liked him with the NTDP even if I don’t see top-6 upside. Sean Barnhill is a fascinating riser I’d definitely consider at the Ottawa 2nd.

But yeah, overall I’d be pretty thrilled with that draft.

 

[TheBeard]

Agreed, there is no chance! I do like something like as opposed to 'top prospect lists' in that you get something of an aggregation to the mean, though there are always a few surprises on draft day.

That said, a 6'2/6'3 RHD who skates well and moves the puck well. Ideal candidate to stash for 2-3 more years in college, sign to a contract after his junior/senior season (burn a year of ELC), and develop in the AHL. 3-5 years from now you have a readymade $4-5M defenseman at $900k. His offense isn't there yet, but feels like he could be a Justin Braun type prospect who locks down your 2nd pair RD spot for a decade. If it develops maybe we have our own Sam Rinzel.

I much, much prefer him to Fiddler, who I do think will be available (edit, should say: may; he'll probably be around that spot)

If he drops to 18 if I were Mike I'd be seeing what it takes to move up for him.

 

[TheBeard]

Dallas trades their 25 year old superstar to the Lakers

They win the lotto 3 month later with 1% odds

I believe in conspiracies now

I've said this a million times but there's absolutely nothing enjoyable about the NBA.

 

[Grinner]

It's a great strategy for GM's that want to get fired

The owner is going to have the last ssy.
There's a lot more that's involved when having tge 1st OA.
Mabe a bit more in Long Island

 

[timorous me]

Dallas trades their 25 year old superstar to the Lakers

They win the lotto 3 month later with 1% odds

I believe in conspiracies now

Yeah, the NBA is its own world and as a long-time Sacramento Kings fan, let's just say all trust I have in that league went out the window more than two decades ago.

 

[dmcccdmn]

Yeah, the NBA is its own world and as a long-time Sacramento Kings fan, let's just say all trust I have in that league went out the window more than two decades ago.

Trade Kuminga for your Sabonis. What say you?

 

[matt trick]

Trade Kuminga for your Sabonis. What say you?

Finally a Gonzaga-related reference not from me! Zag UP!