MattMartin
Killer Instinct™
Your post might have, mine was clear.The post had more than 1 condition, and we didn't fulfil condition 1 but did fulfill part 2 of it. Odds were we win at least 1 game of the last 4
Your post might have, mine was clear.The post had more than 1 condition, and we didn't fulfil condition 1 but did fulfill part 2 of it. Odds were we win at least 1 game of the last 4
Your post might have, mine was clear.
Well, we can even go back to that winning streak, if we split those games, we own a top 5 pick. 4-11 separated by 7 points. It was a 7 game winning streak which got us 14 points. If we went 3-3-1, would be picking 4th.I guess i have to cheer for Philly and Pittsburgh so I can stick it to you. lol
I’m convinced the Isles are gonna win the lottery this year
Bettman won’t like an empty newer building, Hagens is a local boy, and he owes the Isles if they are going to pull the ASG like has been bandied about
Plus we need the defenseman. But it would be hard to pass up on Hagens as a local kid. You’d have to think him being a fan makes it pretty damn close to a lock that he stays a one jersey guy for lifeIf we win I would think the Islanders take Schaeffer, he seems to be the clear cut #1. Maybe Bettman can make us get spot #2. lol
I mean, if you win the draft you can probably trade back to 3 if you want, pick up a decent asset and still get Hagens assuming he doesn’t go 2If we win I would think the Islanders take Schaeffer, he seems to be the clear cut #1. Maybe Bettman can make us get spot #2. lol
That seems a massive overpayment to move up three spots. Depending on BJs needs the Isles would have to add, but I'd gladly throw in a player to make that deal.If CBJ wanted to move 13 and 21 for 10 I’d do it. Really wouldn’t be able to stress how much our prospect pool would improve over two years with 6 picks in the top two rounds just by trading down.
A trade with CGY picks is more realistic, our pick and a third value wise matches up with the two firsts according to puck pedias draft pick value
Yeah cbj wouldn’t make senseThat seems a massive overpayment to move up three spots. Depending on BJs needs the Isles would have to add, but I'd gladly throw in a player to make that deal.
Maybe just wishful thinking but what about something like 10OA, Mayfield, 3rd for 13 and 21? Or a similar deal with CGY?
I can’t say I know how much of a difference there is between Schaefer and Hagens though, so idk how much it’s worth to do any of the things
I completely understand those two ahead of Hagens as their skill sets are more rare and if they reach their potentials more impactful. (But imo if the thing that has made Misa rise is his ability to score the way he has at the C position I can easily imagine ranking him #1 overall, and Schaefer #2).I am no expert but just going off draft rankings by scouting services Schaffer tops it like 11 of 15 lists with Misa and Hagen both being rated #1 on 2 lists each. Now after that Misa seems to be higher on most lists than Hagens(like 9 vs 4)
If we win the lottery and take Hagens I will be absolutely pissed. There are two much better prospects than Hagens. IDC if he’s the owners son you take the better talent.I’m convinced the Isles are gonna win the lottery this year
Bettman won’t like an empty newer building, Hagens is a local boy, and he owes the Isles if they are going to pull the ASG like has been bandied about
I don't really see that there are two much better prospects than Hagens. Schaefer seems to be #1 in most lists now, but that doesn't mean there's separation to the point that Hagens would be a bad pick at #1. From the little I've read to this point, I do see that Hagens is characterized as a guy who makes the players around him better. Do they say that about Misa? Not sure, but Misa plays with Parekh who maybe helped make Misa better. Misa also had 3 points in 4 playoff games and was a minus 10. Hagens was a point per game player in the NCAA in his draft year - that's pretty good - as is going 5-4-9 in 7 games in the WJCs in his draft year.If we win the lottery and take Hagens I will be absolutely pissed. There are two much better prospects than Hagens. IDC if he’s the owners son you take the better talent.
I don't really see that there are two much better prospects than Hagens. Schaefer seems to be #1 in most lists now, but that doesn't mean there's separation to the point that Hagens would be a bad pick at #1. From the little I've read to this point, I do see that Hagens is characterized as a guy who makes the players around him better. Do they say that about Misa? Not sure, but Misa plays with Parekh who maybe helped make Misa better. Misa also had 3 points in 4 playoff games and was a minus 10. Hagens was a point per game player in the NCAA in his draft year - that's pretty good - as is going 5-4-9 in 7 games in the WJCs in his draft year.
Anyway, hopefully we have the problem of winning the lottery and figuring out who to take!
Isles win and trade down would be insane but possible, and probably pick up another first + out of it.Plus we need the defenseman. But it would be hard to pass up on Hagens as a local kid. You’d have to think him being a fan makes it pretty damn close to a lock that he stays a one jersey guy for life
The Islanders didn’t win four back to back Stanley Cups by drafting local kids. If Schaefer is truly the better prospect then you need to take him.Plus we need the defenseman. But it would be hard to pass up on Hagens as a local kid. You’d have to think him being a fan makes it pretty damn close to a lock that he stays a one jersey guy for life
I've barely started researching this draft, but my quick take based on history is that McQueen will not be there at #10. He's a 6'5" almost 200lb RH shot C who was a point per game player last year and only dropped in the published rankings because of his injury this year. Some team will take him before 10, maybe even top 5.Isles are picking at #10 with no lottery shenanigans. Assuming a second defenseman is picked before them (Mrtka, Aitchenson, or Smith), that means one of Eklund, McQueen, or O’Brien will still be there.
Those are GOOD prospects - especially McQueen, who was thought of as a top 5 pick before his injury and a couple players shooting up the board. We have a legitimate shot at two centers with top line upside, and the consolation prize would be a high compete winger who has an older brother already contributing in the league. We’re not walking out of this draft empty handed.
rather we just stay at 10 then completely overpay because the team at 1 knows this isnt exactly viewed as a great draftSJ/Grier say they'd listen to offers on top pick, even if it's #1 overall:
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