Hard to imagine NYI dropping in the standings too much - none of the teams who below them seem likely to do much better. They're 9th in points percentage, and imo they might drop to #8, but hard to imagine them going any lower than that unless they install Skarek as the starting goalie.
2025 NHL DRAFT Thread
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seafoam
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Can't like this enough. Kids gonna be a stud energy first line winger.
Eiserman-Ritchie-Eklund would go crazy. Got your automatic sniper, great playmaker and defensively responsible center, and a high energy and compete winger who scores and playmakes. Can't build a more balanced line than that.
Just gotta get into the top 8, so even if Eklund goes higher we'd get one of Desnoyers, Mcqueen, or maybe even Martone if he falls. All just as good options in my opinion but it falls off pretty hard after that.
At the same time, Sorokin or not, do we see this team winning even 8, heck 6, of the remaining 18 games?
I give the teams behind us with more scoring talent the edge down the stretch.
I've got my post-TD "Not even 50 goals in the final 21 games" watch going on, 'cause I'm really expecting this team to have BIG problems scoring down the stretch.
The past two games have been anything but unexpected.
It's not even difficult to think we'll average less than 2 goals scored per game from here on out.
I've really liked him the past two seasons.
But his teammate Frondell has been coming on REAL strong over the second half of the season and he was the player topping the Swedish ranks heading into the season.
leeroggy
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Biggest problem is Eklund weighs about 160lbs, can his style hold up? I'd love to add Frondell instead. 6' 200lbs and not yet 18 years old and a natural center.
Frondell
Ritchie
D Nelson
No center issues for years if that hits.
8EJS9
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We could definitely go lower than 8th. Pitt, phi, ducks and Seattle all have a realistic chance of passing us. I would bet on us finishing with the 5-6 overall pick. This team is not very good and will not score many goals in the last 18 games.
Yea I’d agree that I’d pick Frondell over Eklund but I think we’ll be picking 7-8 and Frondell mostly goes 3-5. I don’t really see a way we get him unless we absolutely stink it up the rest of the wya which is possible.
Was just saying that getting into that 7-8 to get Eklund should be a priority/necessity.
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For the draft folks, I saw some chatter a few weeks ago that the Rangers made their first round pick trade Top 13 protected because there was a clear top 13 and then a steep falloff after that.
Does that align with your opinions?
Does that align with your opinions?
SI90
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As obsessed as I am with Hagens, I think I’d be torn if I had to choose between him and Misa. Misa looks like he’s going to be an absolute superstar.
How does the draft lotto work? i stopped paying attention since the Islanders made the playoffs but I believe you can only pick first if you bottom 10?
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I found it
As a result of Draft Lottery rule changes made effective in 2021, a team may only move up a maximum of 10 spots from their finishing position. That means only the bottom 11 teams have a shot at the No. 1 overall pick.
So we still have a shot at like top 2 or 3 if we move on down a few spots
ETA
I found it
As a result of Draft Lottery rule changes made effective in 2021, a team may only move up a maximum of 10 spots from their finishing position. That means only the bottom 11 teams have a shot at the No. 1 overall pick.
So we still have a shot at like top 2 or 3 if we move on down a few spots
top of the draft seems to fluctuate a fair bit - sounds like Hagens is falling a bit and Frondell rising. Might see Hagens drop to 5 or 6
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We're going to end up 15th, win the lottery, and at #5 we'll take late-riser Nino Dal Strome. Book it.
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I’ve been watching his cousin , might be a late riser as well , out of Alaska-Massapequa Griff Chyzowski…
I wonder what happens when Canada puts a tariff on drafted to USA based teams
Mr Misunderstood
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The Kraken and Ducks are playing pretty good hockey lately and would love to see them move past us. Rooting for wins for the Sabres, Bruins, Flyers, and Pens. TBH, hoping for an entertaining games against the Pens and see improvement on special teams, d pairings, and individual growth for players like Tysp, Holmstrom, Duke, Reilly whatever the result is.
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Glad these pinned threads got updated but we missed one here
Was this one previously pinned? I couldn't remember.
SI90
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I’m actually excited for this draft. Feel like we have a really good chance to add a good top end Talented prospect to Ritchie and Eiserman.
Also, people are already going crazy for the 2026 and 2027 drafts which are stacked but I feel like this draft you can find talent after the first round.
Also, people are already going crazy for the 2026 and 2027 drafts which are stacked but I feel like this draft you can find talent after the first round.
Green
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It's unreal this team could have had a legit chance at picking this homegrown game changing prospect if Lou did the right thing and sell, but no now we are scrambling to fight for that 8th seed so we can have another early exit, or in all likely just miss out and get a 16th pick
You might recognize the difficulties and trouble caused by actually trying to tank, or you could double down.
Retooling is one thing, and dealing Nelson was a positive move. I don't know exactly what Palmieri would have gotten back, but seems likely that a 2025 2nd was the max. We don't know what else goes into this - like, what are the owners takes about retaining even more salary?
As it stands, the teams below the Islanders in the standings are significantly worse than NYI in D and G. Pelech, Pulock, and now Dobson is back, and he's hot. Romanov was sick, but he'll be back. NYI's D when healthy is pretty good. Like, miles better than Pitts, and it showed. And other teams are just really bad. And by that I mean the Bruins and Flyers. And the Rangers. Shesterkin save them from a blowout last night.
So, it looks like to tank properly, NYI would have had to decimate the D. Is that a good idea? imo probably not. But even if it were a good idea forgetting cap rules considerations, could NYI have done it without retaining salary for future years? I really do not think so, unless the move was to deal Dobson. And imo the trade deadline with him injured was not a good time to try that. There will be more trade opportunities at the draft - teams will have a good idea what cap space they'll have, and what their needs will be going into free agency.
Let's say NYI make the playoffs and lose in the first round. If Dobson shows well, and NYI decide to deal him imo the better returns you can get on a deal for him could easily outweigh the difference in draft position if they had a err.. tried harder to lose.
If NYI decide that they want to trade up and get their guy in the draft, they can reasonably do it with the assets they control.
Anyway, given the way NYI play and are structured the only way to make them non-competitive would be to incentivize taking penalties.
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Regardless of where we finish the most important thing is evaluating and developing talent properly. Buffalo has had a top 5 pick practically every year for over a decade now, and still sucks. I would much rather slowly move our vets for picks/prospects and slowly integrate those young players into the lineup. In 3-4 years we could have a vastly different team that is a legit cup contender.
