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I am pretty sure there was something in the video in 2023 that also showed a sour look... I kind of remember a bit of a back and forth.
I remember it as well. He had a sour look in 2023; I thought it was prior to the Lindstein pick, but could be wrong.
 
My theory was the guy he actually wanted to take was supposed to be there with the second pick we had but got taken in between. Or it was just a “live” shot of the blues table that got taken earlier and the look was unrelated to the picks.
 
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My theory was the guy he actually wanted to take was supposed to be there with the second pick we had but got taken in between. Or it was just a “live” shot of the blues table that got taken earlier and the look was unrelated to the picks.
If your theory is right, was either Musty, Ritchie, or Cowan.
 
If I remember correctly I do believe it was the '23 draft where Walt was pissed. Not about the Dvorsky pick, as he was all on board, but I believe he wanted someone else at #25 (Stenberg) or #29 (Lindstein). Brindley maybe?

I thought the look was because somebody told him the in house bar was closed for the day,

It was the #29 pick where they showed the look from Walt. We never got an actual explanation for the look, but I remember Korac implying that it was less about a specific prospect and more just the general direction we were taking with our final pick. Walt wanted another forward, Feltrin and company decided to go defense. Nobody ever really dug into the specifics of who the next forward on our list was(I'd wager Edstrom but admittedly that's just speculation).
 
My top 50 from a Blues need perspective making their draft board (talent exceeds a need at some point....) Don't favor guys that are smaller or will not hit. Skating, motor, prime position (the vertebrae up the middle) and hockey sense matter
Schaefer
Misa
Desnoyers
O'Brien
McQueen (assuming he checks out)
Frondell
Martone
Bear (assuming he checks out)
Hagens (small)
Martin
Cootes
Hensler
Mrtka (terrible on board battles)
Aitcheson

Trading down at this point

Zonnon
Carbonneau
Potter
Nestrasil
Amico (beast)
Fiddler
Gastrin
Ecklund (fabbri II?)
Reschny (not impressed with skate tool)
Lackovic (doesn't hit)
Spence
Horcoff
Psenicka
McKinney
Bedkowski
Brzustewicz
Kindel (smallish)
Kettles
Nilsson
Zharovsky
Smith (I just don't know)
Boumedienne
Limatov
West
Paupeanekis
Gard
Genborg
Simpson
Stockselius
Epperson
Czata
Murtaugh
Wozniak
Reid (too small)
Tretheway
Moore
 
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My top 50 from a Blues need perspective making their draft board (talent exceeds a need at some point....) Don't favor guys that are smaller or will not hit. Skating, motor, prime position (the vertebrae up the middle) and hockey sense matter
Schaefer
Misa
Desnoyers
O'Brien
McQueen (assuming he checks out)
Frondell
Martone
Bear (assuming he checks out)
Hagens (small)
Martin
Cootes
Hensler
Mrtka (terrible on board battles)
Aitcheson

Trading down at this point

Zonnon
Carbonneau
Potter
Nestrasil
Amico (beast)
Fiddler
Gastrin
Ecklund (fabbri II?)
Reschny (not impressed with skate tool)
Lackovic (doesn't hit)
Spence
Horcoff
Psenicka
McKinney
Bedkowski
Brzustewicz
Kindel (smallish)
Kettles
Nilsson
Zharovsky
Smith (I just don't know)
Boumedienne
Limatov
West
Paupeanekis
Gard
Genborg
Simpson
Stockselius
Epperson
Czata
Murtaugh
Wozniak
Reid (too small)
Tretheway
Moore
Good list, and agree undersized and those that aren't physical aren't my favorites either. I also would like to add that it matters where these prospects will project as they develop. It's easy to see those top tier players with tons of talent now, but those that are just really starting to get it and continue to improve are worthwhile investments especially at #19. I used to live in the PNW and saw many WHL games. The talented players just jumped off the ice every game, You couldn't miss them as they were so dominate. But, then there were those that you saw steady or significant improvement as they gained confidence, grew, or just figured it out. That's a key element if your drafting past the top tier players in a given draft. My list may be simplified, but I will stick with Carbonneau , Hensler, and Nestrasil as one should be available for the Blues.
 
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Good list, and agree undersized and those that aren't physical aren't my favorites either. I also would like to add that it matters where these prospects will project as they develop. It's easy to see those top tier players with tons of talent now, but those that are just really starting to get it and continue to improve are worthwhile investments especially at #19. I used to live in the PNW and saw many WHL games. The talented players just jumped off the ice every game, You couldn't miss them as they were so dominate. But, then there were those that you saw steady or significant improvement as they gained confidence, grew, or just figured it out. That's a key element if your drafting past the top tier players in a given draft. My list may be simplified, but I will stick with Carbonneau , Hensler, and Nestrasil as one should be available for the Blues.
My point kind of is after these top few guys I’d prefer to turn our pick into two players in the top 64 rather than just one swing at a good player.
 
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New mock in The Athletic today has Blues taking Cameron Reid at 19, ahead of Cootes, Hensler, Boumedienne and Fiddler. In this mock Bear, Lakovic and Reschny go off the board right ahead of our pick..
 
My top 50 from a Blues need perspective making their draft board (talent exceeds a need at some point....) Don't favor guys that are smaller or will not hit. Skating, motor, prime position (the vertebrae up the middle) and hockey sense matter
Schaefer
Misa
Desnoyers
O'Brien
McQueen (assuming he checks out)
Frondell
Martone
Bear (assuming he checks out)
Hagens (small)
Martin
Cootes
Hensler
Mrtka (terrible on board battles)
Aitcheson

Trading down at this point

Zonnon
Carbonneau
Potter
Nestrasil
Amico (beast)
Fiddler
Gastrin
Ecklund (fabbri II?)
Reschny (not impressed with skate tool)
Lackovic (doesn't hit)
Spence
Horcoff
Psenicka
McKinney
Bedkowski
Brzustewicz
Kindel (smallish)
Kettles
Nilsson
Zharovsky
Smith (I just don't know)
Boumedienne
Limatov
West
Paupeanekis
Gard
Genborg
Simpson
Stockselius
Epperson
Czata
Murtaugh
Wozniak
Reid (too small)
Tretheway
Moore
No way Smith falls that far. If he's available at 19 that's a no brainer.
If Smith is gone by 19....
Ecklund
Potter
Ravensbergen
in that order of preference

Hoping Hensler or Smith fall into our laps but seriously doubt it.
 
If we take Reid, I'll understand because he is so talented. I won't dislike really anything about the player himself. What will tick me off is us spending 9 picks in the last 3 years on LHD, which would become 10 in the last 4 with a Reid pick. That's in comparison to 9 wingers, 2 RHD, no goalies, and 2/3 players that are still projected to be centers (depending on how you feel about Dvorsky, Korotky, and Stancl).

Centers and RHD are comparatively rare commodities. I would honestly rather reach for guys at those positions than take more low-value positions, even if the players themselves are slightly better than the prospects we already have at those positions. E.g. Is Cam Reid better than Lindstein/Fischer/Ralph/Burns, and if so, by how much? Is he still better if he has to play on his off-side? Will Ralph even sign here if he doesn't see a path to playing time in Springfield? If not, shouldn't we have taken a center with that high pick last year instead of doubling and then tripling down on a crowded LHD prospect room? Isn't the reason you doubled and tripled down on the position that you wouldn't have to invest there again for awhile? Is Reid so good that he's worth a 1st and flushing a 2nd rounder down the toilet? Is that admitting that you got the scouting on that 2nd rounder wrong? Even if you're ready to cut and run on a guy you drafted less than a year ago, it seems like bad scouting and asset management.
 
No way Smith falls that far. If he's available at 19 that's a no brainer.
If Smith is gone by 19....
Ecklund
Potter
Ravensbergen
in that order of preference

Hoping Hensler or Smith fall into our laps but seriously doubt it.
That’s my list. I don’t care if it’s right or wrong. Hopefully he is gone by our pick. I saw enough to know I don’t think he will pan out. He wears his partners out. Charlie Elick was his partner (top pick last year) he struggled playing with him. Plays very small for his size.
 
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What do you guys think about Ivan Ryabkin and when would you guess he gets picked?

Very talented. Questionable compete level, fitness, dedication and defensive game. If he can make it click and fully commit and put in the work, he could be something. But that’s the main concern with him. My guess is he goes in the 25-40 range.
 
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What do you guys think about Ivan Ryabkin and when would you guess he gets picked?

I was on his bandwagon but I'm fully off after the combine. He was so out of shape and interviewed so poorly that some teams have him on their dnd list. I'd still take him if he falls to the 5th though.
 
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