Davimir Tarablad
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Very fitting name to have for this franchise.Evan Passmore too is a good player. Just smart reads and solid.
Very fitting name to have for this franchise.Evan Passmore too is a good player. Just smart reads and solid.
Feel like this draft really falls off when you get to around 20. Even moreso than last year. Unless we win the lottery, the level of player we will get at 10 is about the same as we will at 19. Might as well make the playoffs!
I think we largely agree. To me it drops off after 4, again after about 9, and then around 20 it falls off a cliff. That 10-19 tier feels about equivalent to where I had guys 20-47 last year and 21-30 the year before.Personally I feel like it falls off well before 20. I think there are maybe about 11-12 guys that would have been first rounders in last years draft out of this class. This class just isn't deep. Which is why I am in favor of using our 1st rounder + to make a trade for previously drafted RHD to round out our prospects.
I think we largely agree. To me it drops off after 4, again after about 9, and then around 20it falls off a cliff. That 10-19 tier feels about equivalent to where I had guys 20-47 last year and 21-30 the year before.
I didn't love last year at the top (after Celebrini who I loved), but the depth last year of what i considered 1st round talent felt quite strong. This year much, much less.
May be watching for a while. He’s just a physical mobile top 4 defender. It may come it may not but I see a top 4 or better. Reid and Aitcheson are in that category too. After that I spread guys out to a top six or better guy where Fiddler, Boumedienne, Tretheway, Bedkowski, Laurila, Passmore, and Rombach go.Mrtka is a giraffe, perfect word for him. A 6'6" giraffe with bad puck skills who will absolutely, absolutely lose the puck to Stancl in a board battle. We just cannot have that.
I need to watch more Jackson Smith to see about his offense
I’m struggling this year to find 20 guys that seem like legit top 4 or top 6 guys. Bad year unless your a goalie.I think we largely agree. To me it drops off after 4, again after about 9, and then around 20 it falls off a cliff. That 10-19 tier feels about equivalent to where I had guys 20-47 last year and 21-30 the year before.
I didn't love last year at the top (after Celebrini who I loved), but the depth last year of what i considered 1st round talent felt quite strong. This year much, much less.
But it's a GOOD year to trade away your pick around #15 for a legitimate NHL player. I'm hoping Army deals his 1st in '25 for a long-term member of the next core. (like K'Andre)I’m struggling this year to find 20 guys that seem like legit top 4 or top 6 guys. Bad year unless your a goalie.
But it's a GOOD year to trade away your pick around #15 for a legitimate NHL player. I'm hoping Army deals his 1st in '25 for a long-term member of the next core. (like K'Andre)
Past precedent can play a role in what guys are valued at. If a player was traded for a mid-first in recent years, comparable players may also be seen as costing an equivalent amount, even if the quality of the guy available at that pick isn’t.I don't get this logic. Do you think we are the only teams who see it as a weaker draft? If a player projected to go 15th OA this year is half as valuable as the 15th OA last year, then the 15OA pick will be half as valuable. We'll have to add more to a trade than we would have in a strong draft year.
That will probably be the negative selling point of a trade offer which is why I would hold onto the pick. I agree.I don't get this logic. Do you think we are the only teams who see it as a weaker draft? If a player projected to go 15th OA this year is half as valuable as the 15th OA last year, then the 15OA pick will be half as valuable. We'll have to add more to a trade than we would have in a strong draft year.
Past precedent can play a role in what guys are valued at. If a player was traded for a mid-first in recent years, comparable players may also be seen as costing an equivalent amount, even if the quality of the guy available at that pick isn’t.
Plus, some teams may love certain guys more than other teams. There is no consensus when it comes to the draft. Other teams may see a draft pick as a last chance to cut bait on a guy while he’s still highly valued across the league, or as a way to reallocate salary to the next wave of guys needing to be paid. There are many reasons why a GM may be willing to move a player for a pick and for another to not want to wait the 3-5 years for the pick to materialize in a player.
I mean Cootes is projected late 1st early 2d and he would be a weak pick if we want a center. so I would expect him to be available in the mid first for sure.Yeah I felt like "first round talent" bled into about half the second round last year. This year there are only a handful of players I love and expect them to go extremely early. Schaefer, Misa, Hagens, Martone and Desnoyers make up my current top 5.
Guys I could see being there where the Blues would draft, Hensler, Mrtka, Bear, Cootes, I would put as late 1st or early 2nd rounders in last years draft. Doesn't mean a whole lot given the Blues success of taking picks in the teens/20s and churning out full time NHLers.
I mean Cootes is projected late 1st early 2d and he would be a weak pick if we want a center. so I would expect him to be available in the mid first for sure.
We don't want Mrtka either, you need to be real smooth with the puck to be a top pair NHL defender, and he does not have the puck skills and we don't need bottom 4 D at all
I think we need a center out of this draft, but I would trade for 2026 and 2027 picks. We are not a playoff team. Dump some fodder for either previous drafted players or next two years picks. Lefties can play the right side. We need a 2A center
Are Stancl and Peterson centers though? Stancl is playing lw in Kellowna and Peterson has mostly played wing in Springfield this season. If we see them, especially Stancl, as better fits in wing our center depth is seriously lacking.1- Dvorsky, Dean, Stancl, Peterson,
Definitely not Crosby/Malkin in the same pipeline, but also not devoid of talent. I'm not sure I'd consider C any more of a need than anything else right now; though I admit that positional value and transition ability makes the C position extremely valuable(far more so than either wing position)
Are Stancl and Peterson centers though? Stancl is playing low in Kellen’s and Peterson has mostly played wing in Springfield this season. If we see them, especially Stancl, as better fits in wing our center depth is seriously lacking.
Stancl lines up at wing usually. I've seen him play all of LW, C and RW in just his last dozen games. The other day without Cristall he won 10 of 18 draws on the dot. But with this player no matter whether you're putting him at wing or center he is going to play a cerebral midfielder type game, but one who knows how to use his size as a real advantage.Stancl played a bit at C in Kelowna this season with Cristall on his wing, however, by far the most games he played was at wing.
Last time Peterson played C was with the USNTDP, he exclusively played RW with BU and now with the Thunderbirds.
As I see Stenberg, Kaskimaki, Jecho and Mrsic projecting as wingers, the only 'pure' centers we have in our pipeline are Dvorsky, Dean, Korotky and Dickinson. We could really use some centerdepth as Dean's injury is worrisome, Dickinson is meh (due to losing a lot of development time) and Korotky only has a very small chance to hit.
I really like to pick up the best player we can get at the draft, however, if we're selecting from a tier of players: just pick either a C or a RD. Use a lower pick on a Goalie.
Yeah I figured as much.Matthew Schaefer a unanimous No. 1 in Bob McKenzie's Mid-season NHL Draft Ranking | TSN
"As far as I’m concerned,” one NHL head scout said, “[Matthew Schaefer] is No. 1 and he’s staying there - even if he never plays another game this season."www.tsn.ca
Bob McKenzie's midseason rankings dropped