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Who should we pick 3rd overall (assuming Schaefer and Misa are gone)?

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bwanajamba said:
Hagens himself played another three months of hockey after the January list came out. No reason to purposely use a list that was compiled with incomplete information. All that does is open you up to other sorts of biases and narratives
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what was his consensus rank when the season ended for him? there is more than just Bob's list
 
WarriorofTime said:
Too bogged down in comparison.

One guy says "he reminds me of Barkov" next guy says "he reminds me more of Lundell", then turns into a debate on if you'd knowingly draft Lundell third overall. I guess interesting but in the end Frondell is Frondell, he could be closer to Barkov's level, closer to Lundell's closer, or just be neither.
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It's weird watching a player whose draft season is at wing, plays a reverse hitting one-timer o-zone focused style at that position and yet because he grew up a "C" all the comps are: Nordic 2-Way Centermen.

I mean, I get why, it's just the comps aren't the guy I watch in the vids primarily due to his role in Djurgardens having nothing to do with being a defensive-minded C. I like him in the LW role he's playing now.
 
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Hawkaholic said:
People saying I hate drafting 3rd as if Misa is miles ahead of the other possible selections in this draft, I just dont think thats the case, at all.
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I agree with this more and more each day. Just not much to differentiate in this draft. Wandering if the covid lockdown has something to do with hat?
 
Hawks aren't trading down. Not the NFL (and seems like Hawks would rather consolidate picks rather than get more after all the excess ones in 2022 and 2023). Should not be trying to acquire "help now" talent. Just take whichever guy you like most.
 
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A decent portion of public rankings last year didn't have Levshunov in the top 5, oh how soon we forget. He was absolutely a polarizing prospect for those who didn't think he was top pick material. While for Demidov the folks who didn't have him at 2/3 almost all had him top 5.

Hawks are going to take their guy. If there's a draft where your scouts want to go off the board a bit this is one of them.
 
deytookerjaabs said:
A decent portion of public rankings last year didn't have Levshunov in the top 5, oh how soon we forget. He was absolutely a polarizing prospect for those who didn't think he was top pick material. While for Demidov the folks who didn't have him at 2/3 almost all had him top 5.

Hawks are going to take their guy. If there's a draft where your scouts want to go off the board a bit this is one of them.
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Levshunov was consensus 3rd on the McKenzie list with 3/10 having him rated 2nd.

In the case of Demidov, he is, in the eyes of our scouting panel, the clear consensus No. 2 choice behind Celebrini. Six of the 10 scouts surveyed had him at No. 2. All 10 had him in their top five. No other prospect in the draft, save Celebrini, had Top 5 unanimity.

Not No. 3 ranked Artyom Levshunov, the Belarussian freshman defenceman from Michigan State University, who was close (three votes at No. 2 and eight of 10 votes in the Top 5), or No. 4 ranked Silayev or No. 5 ranked Medicine Hat Tiger centre Cayden Lindstrom (each of whom had seven of 10 votes in the Top 5).
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www.tsn.ca

Bob McKenzie's Final NHL Draft Ranking: Many attractive and diverse options after Macklin Celebrini | TSN

This year’s final ranking, from No. 2 on, is much more challenging to assemble because of two factors - many more divergent opinions and variance on even the top 10 picks and two Russians forcing their way into the conversation in the upper echelon.
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WarriorofTime said:
Levshunov was consensus 3rd on the McKenzie list with 3/10 having him rated 2nd.


www.tsn.ca

Bob McKenzie's Final NHL Draft Ranking: Many attractive and diverse options after Macklin Celebrini | TSN

This year’s final ranking, from No. 2 on, is much more challenging to assemble because of two factors - many more divergent opinions and variance on even the top 10 picks and two Russians forcing their way into the conversation in the upper echelon.
www.tsn.ca www.tsn.ca
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One guy's consolidation is one guy's consolidation.

Right before the draft last year:

Just going off the 17 draft rankings linked in elite prospects that include both Lev & Demidov:

Of the 17 rankings for Demidov:
13 have him 2nd.
3 have him 3rd.
1 has him at 7.

For Lev:
4 have him 2nd
4 have him 3rd
2 have him 4th
7 rankings have him between 6-11 (out of the top 5).


In terms of rank choice Demidov is overwhelmingly the favorite of these published rankings at 2nd overall.

Less than 50% of the rankings for Levshunov have him in the top 3 whereas 95% of the rankings have Demidov top 3. 40% of the rankings don't have Levshunov in the top 5.
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40% of those final separate rankings didn't have Lev top 5.
 
Let the dating games begin!

The Ducks kept that Sennecke thing on lockdown, he said his agent knew he was going to be the pick but didn't tell him.
 
Hawkaholic said:
People saying I hate drafting 3rd as if Misa is miles ahead of the other possible selections in this draft, I just dont think thats the case, at all.
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He's kind of just above average in most if not all areas and when you combine that with his skating and insane production this season he's pretty easily the safest pick at 2 (and would be mine). I'd certainly bet on the field to produce the second best player from this draft though. I dont see any elite qualities (Frondell's shot, O'Brien's Ozone creativity/passing, etc.) in him.

I still think Eklund is criminally underrated. He's got Seth Jarvis written all over him
 
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Hattrick Kane said:
Doesn’t mean much. I don’t think the Ducks had dinner with Sennecke last year.

If Misa were to fall to third there’s still a very good chance the Hawks take him. They just likely aren’t counting on it right now.
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pretty sure MTL did the same thing with Demidov when his agent hosted something for him to meet with teams
 
Hattrick Kane said:
Doesn’t mean much. I don’t think the Ducks had dinner with Sennecke last year.

If Misa were to fall to third there’s still a very good chance the Hawks take him. They just likely aren’t counting on it right now.
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They also might want to make it seem like they're not super interested in him, in case there are trade talks with NYI or SJ.

Don't want to lose leverage.
 
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