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Who should we pick 3rd overall (assuming Schaefer and Misa are gone)?

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PCAisBest said:
Tallon had a big part in the Hawks dynasty and the current panthers run.

I'd say his resume speaks for itself more then the current slop that is the Blackhawks
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Well... I said I like Dale, but Kane and Toews were layups.

Keith, buff, brower, Seabrook, and Crawford were Smith picks...


Back to today..... So you want Hagens at #3.
 
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PCAisBest said:
The point is numbers are irrelevant.

If people can't see Hagens is an elite talent and are using his stats as an excuse to not draft him that's a hilarious take.

Third pick in the draft you better take the best player. And while I like Desnoyers there's a decent sized gap between him and Hagens talent wise.

You don't take need in the top three, you take the best player.

He's small? Who cares. If the gm can't figure out a way to build around elite skilled small players find a gm who can.
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I can't find much to disagree with here. I don't quite know the gap between Desnoyers and Hagens as
I haven't seen/done enough to have an informed opinion.

Free agency..... This years first (leafs) and high second, next years two firsts (who cares if you get McKenna), and three seconds should be used to address any "size" issues, if we have any moving forward.
 
WarriorofTime said:
Sorry I meant recent Hawk picks

Misiak, Felcman, Pharand, Marcel, Oscarson all bigger guys drafted in 2023, probably going to turn into nothing.
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Oh I see.

None of those guys were highly regarded prospects, so in those rounds almost everyone is a dart throw anyway so may as well bet on size.
 
PCAisBest said:
Good lord....

Hagens numbers are irrelevant.

Rob Brown put up over 200 pts his draft year yet was taken in the fourth round and couldn't play in the NHL unless he had Mario doing all the heavy lifting.

If numbers> talent then there's something wrong.
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Unbelievably obtuse…

Imagine commenting on someone’s post without considering the context under which it was made. If you wish to inform yourself you can go back and see that my post was in response to another poster praising Hagens PpG production this past season. I was merely pointing out that in comparison to recent performances from other players it was not overly impressive.

It is also incredibly ridiculous to suggest numbers are irrelevant, you don’t see very many draft eligible forwards being considered for the top end of the 1st round of a draft unless they have the production to support the pick. If Hagens had put up the points Fantilli or Smith did last season, hell even hit the 55 point mark he likely never loses the top pick ranking he started the season with.

Having said all of that, I have never said Hagens is not talented, I have never said he is not worthy of being selected in the 1st round. I would be fine if the Hawks go through the process and tag him as their guy at #3 however, given his complete package in comparison to those being offered by other prospects, he would not be my pick.

My top five at this time are, Schaefer, Misa, Desnoyers, O’Brien, Martone.
 
I think I’m leaning Desnoyers. Centers are just so important and I’d feel good about his projection as a 2C that can handle any matchup/role you throw at him
 
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unbridledid said:
I can't find much to disagree with here. I don't quite know the gap between Desnoyers and Hagens as
I haven't seen/done enough to have an informed opinion.

Free agency..... This years first (leafs) and high second, next years two firsts (who cares if you get McKenna), and three seconds should be used to address any "size" issues, if we have any moving forward.
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Hagens is an elite talent.

I like Desnoyers and would have no problem if the Hawks drafted him in some trade down scenario which would be stupid unless proven high end talent was coming back along with a lower pick.

That said, in my opinion I think there's alot of question marks outside of Hagens, Misa, and Schaefer.

I don't think much of Martone.
I like Desnoyers but I see more Kruger with a sprinkle of Toews.
I don't think much of these late risers suddenly popping up out of nowhere as a top three pick.
I like Frondell and would take him after Hagens.
 
MTU34 said:
I think I’m leaning Desnoyers. Centers are just so important and I’d feel good about his projection as a 2C that can handle any matchup/role you throw at him
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We will see if Alexander Rouleau etc. can convince Blackhawks staff on this. It would be really interesting to be at the same room with Hawks scouting staff when they finalize their board.
 
Interested to hear what Hawks fans think. What if the Hawks just traded the pick to the Islanders or the Kraken for their pick next year unprotected? Is anybody even convinced Desnoyer, Hagens, or Martone can make a significant impact in the next two years?

I think that's even better or an idea if KD can move pick 25 and some sweeteners to move up around 10 to get somebody like Martin, but even if not... I think a offseason where we find a good center and good wing (maybe ehlers and granlund), get Lakovic at 25 and some exciting players like Nestrasil/West/Benak in the 2nd is a good haul. Then if you have two picks in the top 10 next year you really have to be thrilled.

(doesn't matter because I don't think KD has the discipline to do this)
 
PCAisBest said:
I want the best player.

If Schaefer and Misa are off the board, then yes, its Hagens
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You don´t think Blackhawks want the best player available? They have over ten amateur scouts who have monitored these players inside out. Not only their on ice habits but off ice too and what kind of personalities they are etc. Choice is not who is the best at the moment but who they believe is going to be the best in few years from the draft day. That´s the tricky part of scouting.
 
PatFoleyBarTab88 said:
Interested to hear what Hawks fans think. What if the Hawks just traded the pick to the Islanders or the Kraken for their pick next year unprotected? Is anybody even convinced Desnoyer, Hagens, or Martone can make a significant impact in the next two years?
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First I don´t think Islanders or Kraken would do something like that. Secondly this draft pick isn´t about next two years. It is more about next 5-10 years.
 
I havent seen enough of some the prospects that will be available at 3 to make an educated pick. Seeing highlight packages doesnt do it for me. That being said - you cant teach size and looking at the successful playoff teams thats something they definitely have. They are BIG across the lineup. Having a team full of small, fast players aint going to get you a Stanley Cup.
 
Mjul Qvist said:
You don´t think Blackhawks want the best player available?
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Who knows?

After trading Hagel and Debrincat for nickels on the dollar I think Davidson is more "smartest guy in the room" then "let's build a winning team".

The guy signed Brodie and two washed up players who retired once the season ended. That's not strong talent evaluation imo
 
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