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you take the best player available and it's likely Hagans if Misa is gone, you can make trades later if need be. I'm not worried about height or weight as the skill Hagans has is better than the rest after Schaefer
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Have Hawks taking Desnoyers based on need
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Just look up the YouTube onlooker OnNHL Prospects that just came out on Brady Martin...the mist violent player in the 2o25 NHL draft...
The host is Sebastian High the chief USHL scout for eliteprospects.con and he brought in Mark from NHL Draft Pros to break down all the events of this prospect who isctgevlate riser to any list NHL teams are now finalizing forvthe draft.
Showed so much at u18s but realky improving anfrisibg all sesson from tge 20s initially to now almost certainly last half of thectop ten...maybe as high as 5-6...But there realy isziis not much gap between #5-6 vs.#3...
Do in my opinion I think Hawks shoukd take him at #3..
After theircanalyaus of all he brings to the game and the potential to still improve and get even better developing his skills,this kidviscthe most unique pkayer of any you can consider for the top 5 forwards in thecdraft...the combo of compete,physicality and sscoribg skills with shot and improved passing that you all saw conevtogethercsovwelkatvu18s...well aftercviewubgvthis so highly praised scouring reoirt breakdown,why would you want the Flyersvir the Bruins to land him and thecguyvyiu chose at #3never gets to the ceimingvyiu thought anyway?
They suggested some comps for Martin..among them Nazim Kadri,Sam Bennett,and Mike Richard's...But I think Martin can turn out even better than all of these comps.You know Martin is built forcthebpkayoffs and will elevate to highest intensity in thebokayoffs..but he still competes so hard in regukarxseason to..you see theboro habitsxarecalreadyvthere and they said hexprobaly was the closest of anybof the draft prospects to play right away in a checking rokevif an NHL teN so chose to insert him for this cknubgvsesson..I woukd notcrush hom but let him develop top line skill 1 more season I juniors.
The thing with Martin is you know you are getting a useful impactactful pro NHL player...Certain... ...how high the ceiling is = maybe a 2C or 2W ..but what a 2nd line that woukd bevwiyh hom on it...Yet they also said they believe he still has upside ..maybe get a bit faster..and morecweight..maybe grow an inch...I just do not think there is a prospect from#3on withvthectotLitycand variety ofcwaysxti inpactca game as this kid brings.
Looking back at the draftca few years from now the team draftibg hom is goibgvto be very haooy and maybe it turns out he was the best pick of forwards on this draft..
Now I wiukd argue that the Hawks need a forward with jam and physicality who has no problem goibgvtobthe cebner slot ...who creates chaos..superb forecjeck...relentless..leading and inspirational...real captain material..plus you getca realkygood shot ..tgatvhe has improved his creative oasibg skills and use of linenates over the course ofvthecseason also explains his rose so much I the 2nd half and to his great finish to his season..
There is just so much to like with thus player.
Sebsstian and Mark on this YouTube analysis on Martin did mention that while Chocago could pick Martone or Frondell...they see Frondelk more as a powrr winger than a Cebter stating that Djurgardins used him a lot on LW thusxsesfon..so maybe he shoukd not be considered as a center at all...THat leaves zdesnoyers..they just cannot get themselves to put Martin I the mix for #3 eve though theuthink he woukd beca fibe 2C or 2W...
But to me you must look at Drsnoters final last 8HP which he has not realky impressed prodiction wise..No goals ladt 8GP..pnlyv2a in ladt 5GP...
Yes this does not inspire confidence taking hIm as high as #3.
FRONDELL also fizzekexxat u18s..hos worst inoression for the scouts possible.he was terrible..
Martin on thevotger hand eas terrific.. showcased the unique combo of skill and compete and physicality..
To me this now is between Martone and Martin for tge #3.
BUT Martone while showing flashes of physicality,at other times looked more like a finesse sjilex forward..you wish he would show more consistent physical play given his size
and so while high skill is there ,tgerexarexissues with both consistency of work ethic,physical lkay and pace..
IF can improve in these aspects then Martine could be the 1st line g partner to help Bedard if Bedard stays at Center...Martine us a better playmaker set up winger than a goal scoring winger ..
Could Martin be a 1C if Bedard moves to wing ...or a 1W If Bedard stays at Center ?
Nobody seems to see Martin as a first kibe oisdibikuty to help Bedard blossom..
However,they did state that Martin would do any roke adkedvofhomand do it well.. And his contribution woukd help any line he okayscon.
So I do not see why he cannot help Bedard o line 1..
Adds a physical element ..creates chaos in o'zobe. Wins board battles takes picksctobthe skit..It has to open space for Bedardto get off his checks to better open shot lanes.
They did praise Martin for his puck control...Good puck controlin tight spaces.. I think Martin will do heavy lifting to get Bedard better shot opportunities both keeping pucksvin o-zobe loger from fierce firecheckibg and hitting.. gettibg dmen to cough pucksvup..We want more physical and skilkex guys with Bedard to get hom more and better scoribg chances.
That Martin has a very good pro shot ..tgey sId nit as hard as Frondelk's shot but that tgerecisxruneay for Martin to get his shot harder as he adds weight to his frame..whike Frobdell may have pkateued..not moch more room for hom to add more t o his frame...in my view they think Frobdell has pjayeaued as far as growth and frame but Martin is going to add morecto his frame even though he already is"Farm strong" despite only weighing 180 now..
High sId Martin atv6'0 180 plays lije a guyv6'6 250..
Do nkt know if I go that big..but he kays much much bigger than his average NHL size..I had only gone so far as pkaying lijec6'4 240.
So to me Martin coukd help Bedard a kot..
But if hevo Jared on line as a wibg or a center for Nazar ,I think that also woukd constitute events of a great 2nd line.
But even if Martin is used as a 3C ,tgat 3rd libe wlukd be special.
Martin coujd still also be used o tge Po for his own good 1 timer or as the bumper rike at the bet slot.
Then when Hawks finally get to pkayoffagain,they will need a guy like Martin whereas with other candidates for #3 you do wonder if tgey can summon the intensity and effectiveness required.
I think Hawks get a lot of hockeybpkayerxwith Martin and less issues than with any other candidate for the #4overall.
I would take Martin at #3..but I do not know if KD will.
Before u18s tge betting wiukd be on Martone or Frndelk or Desnoyers..but at tge Fibal decision.. I wonder if JD bets on any other them ...maybe he also cones around to the benefit forcthe Team to add a unique player lije Martin who may yet hone his talents to a very high ceiling.. but atvkesst you know the floor is goibg tobe very very good and very impactful.
Coaches will love Martin..fans will adore Martin.
I think fNs will go critical of Martine Frobdelk or Denoyers if they fail to hit ceilings expected from a #3..
I mean KD still could go Hagens and
spew the old BPA ...that's who we had at #3on our list therev...or we had hin at #2onour list..but addibgvanitger smallish shrimp inthevtop 6 makes Zero sense to me..We will get pushed around..
With Martin..nobody gonna push him aroubd.He adds tge uber physicality up front we need..yet has tge skill and scoring we akso want.
To me..a no brajber..Take Martin..
I hope KD has tge brains to tobso beforecsobevotger team majeschom part of elevating their team
The host is Sebastian High the chief USHL scout for eliteprospects.con and he brought in Mark from NHL Draft Pros to break down all the events of this prospect who isctgevlate riser to any list NHL teams are now finalizing forvthe draft.
Showed so much at u18s but realky improving anfrisibg all sesson from tge 20s initially to now almost certainly last half of thectop ten...maybe as high as 5-6...But there realy isziis not much gap between #5-6 vs.#3...
Do in my opinion I think Hawks shoukd take him at #3..
After theircanalyaus of all he brings to the game and the potential to still improve and get even better developing his skills,this kidviscthe most unique pkayer of any you can consider for the top 5 forwards in thecdraft...the combo of compete,physicality and sscoribg skills with shot and improved passing that you all saw conevtogethercsovwelkatvu18s...well aftercviewubgvthis so highly praised scouring reoirt breakdown,why would you want the Flyersvir the Bruins to land him and thecguyvyiu chose at #3never gets to the ceimingvyiu thought anyway?
They suggested some comps for Martin..among them Nazim Kadri,Sam Bennett,and Mike Richard's...But I think Martin can turn out even better than all of these comps.You know Martin is built forcthebpkayoffs and will elevate to highest intensity in thebokayoffs..but he still competes so hard in regukarxseason to..you see theboro habitsxarecalreadyvthere and they said hexprobaly was the closest of anybof the draft prospects to play right away in a checking rokevif an NHL teN so chose to insert him for this cknubgvsesson..I woukd notcrush hom but let him develop top line skill 1 more season I juniors.
The thing with Martin is you know you are getting a useful impactactful pro NHL player...Certain... ...how high the ceiling is = maybe a 2C or 2W ..but what a 2nd line that woukd bevwiyh hom on it...Yet they also said they believe he still has upside ..maybe get a bit faster..and morecweight..maybe grow an inch...I just do not think there is a prospect from#3on withvthectotLitycand variety ofcwaysxti inpactca game as this kid brings.
Looking back at the draftca few years from now the team draftibg hom is goibgvto be very haooy and maybe it turns out he was the best pick of forwards on this draft..
Now I wiukd argue that the Hawks need a forward with jam and physicality who has no problem goibgvtobthe cebner slot ...who creates chaos..superb forecjeck...relentless..leading and inspirational...real captain material..plus you getca realkygood shot ..tgatvhe has improved his creative oasibg skills and use of linenates over the course ofvthecseason also explains his rose so much I the 2nd half and to his great finish to his season..
There is just so much to like with thus player.
Sebsstian and Mark on this YouTube analysis on Martin did mention that while Chocago could pick Martone or Frondell...they see Frondelk more as a powrr winger than a Cebter stating that Djurgardins used him a lot on LW thusxsesfon..so maybe he shoukd not be considered as a center at all...THat leaves zdesnoyers..they just cannot get themselves to put Martin I the mix for #3 eve though theuthink he woukd beca fibe 2C or 2W...
But to me you must look at Drsnoters final last 8HP which he has not realky impressed prodiction wise..No goals ladt 8GP..pnlyv2a in ladt 5GP...
Yes this does not inspire confidence taking hIm as high as #3.
FRONDELL also fizzekexxat u18s..hos worst inoression for the scouts possible.he was terrible..
Martin on thevotger hand eas terrific.. showcased the unique combo of skill and compete and physicality..
To me this now is between Martone and Martin for tge #3.
BUT Martone while showing flashes of physicality,at other times looked more like a finesse sjilex forward..you wish he would show more consistent physical play given his size
and so while high skill is there ,tgerexarexissues with both consistency of work ethic,physical lkay and pace..
IF can improve in these aspects then Martine could be the 1st line g partner to help Bedard if Bedard stays at Center...Martine us a better playmaker set up winger than a goal scoring winger ..
Could Martin be a 1C if Bedard moves to wing ...or a 1W If Bedard stays at Center ?
Nobody seems to see Martin as a first kibe oisdibikuty to help Bedard blossom..
However,they did state that Martin would do any roke adkedvofhomand do it well.. And his contribution woukd help any line he okayscon.
So I do not see why he cannot help Bedard o line 1..
Adds a physical element ..creates chaos in o'zobe. Wins board battles takes picksctobthe skit..It has to open space for Bedardto get off his checks to better open shot lanes.
They did praise Martin for his puck control...Good puck controlin tight spaces.. I think Martin will do heavy lifting to get Bedard better shot opportunities both keeping pucksvin o-zobe loger from fierce firecheckibg and hitting.. gettibg dmen to cough pucksvup..We want more physical and skilkex guys with Bedard to get hom more and better scoribg chances.
That Martin has a very good pro shot ..tgey sId nit as hard as Frondelk's shot but that tgerecisxruneay for Martin to get his shot harder as he adds weight to his frame..whike Frobdell may have pkateued..not moch more room for hom to add more t o his frame...in my view they think Frobdell has pjayeaued as far as growth and frame but Martin is going to add morecto his frame even though he already is"Farm strong" despite only weighing 180 now..
High sId Martin atv6'0 180 plays lije a guyv6'6 250..
Do nkt know if I go that big..but he kays much much bigger than his average NHL size..I had only gone so far as pkaying lijec6'4 240.
So to me Martin coukd help Bedard a kot..
But if hevo Jared on line as a wibg or a center for Nazar ,I think that also woukd constitute events of a great 2nd line.
But even if Martin is used as a 3C ,tgat 3rd libe wlukd be special.
Martin coujd still also be used o tge Po for his own good 1 timer or as the bumper rike at the bet slot.
Then when Hawks finally get to pkayoffagain,they will need a guy like Martin whereas with other candidates for #3 you do wonder if tgey can summon the intensity and effectiveness required.
I think Hawks get a lot of hockeybpkayerxwith Martin and less issues than with any other candidate for the #4overall.
I would take Martin at #3..but I do not know if KD will.
Before u18s tge betting wiukd be on Martone or Frndelk or Desnoyers..but at tge Fibal decision.. I wonder if JD bets on any other them ...maybe he also cones around to the benefit forcthe Team to add a unique player lije Martin who may yet hone his talents to a very high ceiling.. but atvkesst you know the floor is goibg tobe very very good and very impactful.
Coaches will love Martin..fans will adore Martin.
I think fNs will go critical of Martine Frobdelk or Denoyers if they fail to hit ceilings expected from a #3..
I mean KD still could go Hagens and
spew the old BPA ...that's who we had at #3on our list therev...or we had hin at #2onour list..but addibgvanitger smallish shrimp inthevtop 6 makes Zero sense to me..We will get pushed around..
With Martin..nobody gonna push him aroubd.He adds tge uber physicality up front we need..yet has tge skill and scoring we akso want.
To me..a no brajber..Take Martin..
I hope KD has tge brains to tobso beforecsobevotger team majeschom part of elevating their team
I would gladly lock in Desnoyers and Spence right now given the optionNHL Mock Draft 2025: Pronman, Wheeler and Bultman play GM and pick Round 1
Here’s how Corey Pronman, Scott Wheeler and Max Bultman would run the draft if they were in charge of each team’s board.
Have Hawks taking Desnoyers based on need
dj Mahoney
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I had been leaning toward Martone but starting to come around to just going Hagens and to hell with the to many of the same size and shape rational pushing me (and probably many others away from Hagens). I know WJC doesn't translate to NHL/Pro capabilities, but I keep going back to Hagens being really noticeable on a winning team and Martone being invisible on a hugely disappointing team.
There are other ways to acquire complimentary or even top line players with size. Our 3 Cup teams basically had 1 above 6' player taken in the top 20 of a draft by the Hawks....Toews. The rest were UFA (Hossa), trade (Sharp), or lower draft picks (Saad, Bickel, Brouwer, Buff, etc). The Hawks current prospect pool has an advantage of an abundance of size on the backend.
There are other ways to acquire complimentary or even top line players with size. Our 3 Cup teams basically had 1 above 6' player taken in the top 20 of a draft by the Hawks....Toews. The rest were UFA (Hossa), trade (Sharp), or lower draft picks (Saad, Bickel, Brouwer, Buff, etc). The Hawks current prospect pool has an advantage of an abundance of size on the backend.
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That's a good perspective. If someone from the future came and told us all last year after we selected Levshunov that we'd be heading into the 2025/26 season with Bedard, Levshunov, and Hagens we'd all have been ecstatic.
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Instead of accepting "sucky" again, a legit #1 for a few years has a cascade impact, gets us better now and then allows the development of the talent we have at the lower levels. Barzal is affordable and I'd rather have him than give Marner $14MM.....we can't just keep looking at lottery picks next year. It's time to give Bedard, Vlasic, Rinzel and Nazar some talented support still in their 20's that can grow with the team.
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Would take Frondell over Desnoyers if thats who they're deciding between and just hope you hit a ceiling outcome of a Draisaitl/Barkov/Kopitar type player
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I’d like to know if Desnoyers has been injured. If not, I’d probably lean Frondell too. He has a better toolkit than Desnoyers.
Frondells transition data is pretty concerning though, even vs his peers. I’m surprised the Hawks aren’t worried by that.
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Nice name drops Ehlers, frondell and Desnoyers
We still likely suck with Brazal or Marner (or hell even both)....embrace the suck, get a top 5 pick in '26 and start to worry about turning the corner next Summer when more of Lardis, Kansterov, Boisvert, Moore, Vanaker, Spellacy, '25 1st/2nd round picks are arriving or have developed more at the pro level.
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Talent that grows with the team for four years before falling off. I swear people want to Buffalo this rebuild so bad because they can’t take building through the actual f***ing draft. This is like trading for Jones because we need a 1D when the team isn’t ready at all and the age timelines won’t matchup
I understand the appeal of Hagens but man i was so unimpressed by him in the NCAA this season. Decision making was horrible at times, looked pretty soft and uninspiring and was such an easy player for dmen to smother. Probably only scores like 25 points if he wasn't playing with 2 of the best offensive drivers in the entire NCAA.
Could it just be a rough season developmentally? Yes but there's too many question marks for me there and frankly, his weaknesses remind me a lot of the version of Bedard that we just saw this past season and that's the last thing we need more of in our organization.
Could it just be a rough season developmentally? Yes but there's too many question marks for me there and frankly, his weaknesses remind me a lot of the version of Bedard that we just saw this past season and that's the last thing we need more of in our organization.
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I agree that after next year, expectations will be on trending up. Next years FA class looks a little better as well.
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I mean, that’s why he’s not a consensus #1 overall this year. He would be had he lived up to the hype this year.
But that’s why people also want him at three. They’re looking at the previous year’s play saying he must still be that good, not based on anything he did this year. Mediocre play in college and at the world juniors.
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PPG play in the NCAA especially as a true freshman is not mediocre he’s faced better competition and better teams than any CHL player.
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