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Who should we pick 3rd overall (assuming Schaefer and Misa are gone)?

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I don't think this draft is good enough for the cost in trading up into the top 10. We'd have to trade somebody like KK and picks or next year's 1st to get there. Now, if you can get someone like Buffalo to overpay for a trade involving #3 and #9, that might be something.
 
You notice most teams even in the playoffs and especially around the league are just dying to find centres in the offseason.

And guaranteed almost none are available. It’s reaching a crisis point. Sam Bennett is rumored to be getting 8 figures for crying out loud. That’s why 3 this year is going to be centre, either Desnoyers or Frondell. And the next few drafts should be centre heavy as well.

What these playoffs is teaching is you do not want to be ready to compete and have your centre position being shaky.
 
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Kevin Musto said:
Potter has elite upside. Reschny doesn't.

I'm not sure why you're hung up on height.

It's like complaining that I don't have Connor Garland ranked higher than DeBrincat.
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I’m not hung up on height, you are the one who referred to Reschny as a short perimeter player which makes it seem like being short AND a perimeter player are negatives for him in your assessment however, Potter, someone you rave about is actually shorter/smaller than Reschny.

If height isn’t a negative for you, why didn’t you just say Reschny is a perimeter player which will cause him to slip to the 2nd round?
 
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Hattrick Kane said:
You notice most teams even in the playoffs and especially around the league are just dying to find centres in the offseason.

And guaranteed almost none are available. It’s reaching a crisis point. Sam Bennett is rumored to be getting 8 figures for crying out loud. That’s why 3 this year is going to be centre, either Desnoyers or Frondell. And the next few drafts should be centre heavy as well.

What these playoffs is teaching is you do not want to be ready to compete and have your centre position being shaky.
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If there is any real chance that Frondell has the upside of a Barkov/Kopitar/Draisaitl type player then they need to add that to this group imo, you need that guy to be a real contender in the playoffs...but I will understand if they go Desnoyers...you're right though, have to take a center that can thrive in playoff style hockey....Think Nazar can be that other guy
 
Toews2Bickell said:
If there is any real chance that Frondell has the upside of a Barkov/Kopitar/Draisaitl type player then they need to add that to this group imo, you need that guy to be a real contender in the playoffs...but I will understand if they go Desnoyers...you're right though, have to take a center that can thrive in playoff style hockey....Think Nazar can be that other guy
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Literally why all the buffalo talk to trade 3 for their damaged goods and drop to 9 just doesnt make any damn sense besides just looking at OVRs in EA NHL
 
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Sinbad said:
I’m not hung up on height, you are the one who referred to Reschny as a short perimeter player which makes it seem like being short AND a perimeter player are negatives for him in your assessment however, Potter, someone you rave about is actually shorter/smaller than Reschny.

If height isn’t a negative for you, why didn’t you just say Reschny is a perimeter player which will cause him to slip to the 2nd round?
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I'm talking about how teams draft.

Teams typically don't favor shorters players.

It's not like Potter is going top 10 either.
 
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This slump for hom cones as the light fron scoutsceyes focuses so muchbo hom from Q finals and into Memorial Cup.. as thebibtebsity ramped up he seems to fave a big fail in production blowing his opportunity to impress and maybe convince Hawks to take homat #3..this slump and ineffective production last 7GP realky casts doubt Hawksxtake homat #3...just not seeing driving the pjaying scoring fron him..Lije fFrondelk at u18s blowingvtgevimpresdion ...

Tge Brst lasting impression of a pkayer you Want was the Brady Martin showing at u18s..

This is why CRAIG Button moved Nartonaheadvof Drsnoyers and has himall the wY uoro#6..
But Martin was so much more inoresdove at u18sxthan Frondelk that I cannot understand why Button tossed a Mulligan to Frobdelk and has him still at #3 ..

TO me Brady Martin just looks like an impactful pro NHLer tiktibg thebice abd craetibg scoribg chancescoff relentless out-worjibg the opps...tge combo of compete/physicality and effective scoribg cobtribution...and ramped up even more when the stakes are highest..
He deserves to be #3..All the others have more warts and doubts in various aspects. WITH MARTIN you getca unique combination of 4 things you want ina pjayer...consistency shift to shift..ultra comoete level,creation ofcsciribg chNcescin various ways andxax200ft game.

I just think hecis a unique certainty to help any team any kibe any situation..
Can't moss..No doubts.

Super star..maybe not.. Imoactful goid pkayer to help you win if enough other talent on the team= yes. HE will lift them and inspire them to pjay their brst.

This is why he has kept risibgvalk season from I itialky in thec20s beginning of the seadon..
You Msutvignore just looking at hisc72 point regukarxseason vs. Hogher production fron otger supposed top candidates Hawks considering...because he had no talent to help him I the Soo.....it was a bad team ...14thbof 20 OHL teams I the standingsvleague wide.

If you put hom on better teams like alk thebotger candidates he of course would have 20borc30 morebpounts...They would have less points than they had with their teans if they played as the best pkayer on the Soo on theirvkubec1 insteadvifvhom..

This is Obvious to anyone with a brain..but honestly. Which candidate left the best lasting impression (unless Drsnoyers cones out big in his remaining Memorial Cup games )...Pnly Martin who elevated at the end...Desnoyers fizxling..Frondell fizzled.. Even Misa failed miserably with a -16over hisvkast 10GP casting some doubtscinless he got bangedvup which hampered hom ...

Martine looked decent vs. Mem at u18scbot with limited time did not score...butcat least hecshowed he coukd not be a defebsive liability.

So it conesxdown to this. Who showed scouts tge jist effectivevpkay andvoutstandibgbpkaybin a fibalbinpresdion...Brady Martin.

You want this "gamer" on your team.
 
RememberTheRoar said:
Is this something you think needs to be addressed because Nazar isn’t the answer, or because you think Nazar needs to be with Bedard?
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If they take Martone and Bedard needs to be moved to wing in the future they would be left with only Nazar as a top 6 center, so sort of thinking ahead with the pick at 3, do you just take Frondell/Hagens/Desnoyers to mitigate that risk now or take the gamble and select Martone and assume that you could solve it in 2026 if Bedard does need to be moved.
 
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Toews2Bickell said:
If they take Martone and Bedard needs to be moved to wing in the future they would be left with only Nazar as a top 6 center, so sort of thinking ahead with the pick at 3, do you just take Frondell/Hagens/Desnoyers to mitigate that risk now or take the gamble and select Martone and assume that you could solve it in 2026 if Bedard does need to be moved.
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Bedard says unequivocally that he wants to be an NHL center. If the guy that you’re building your franchise around says he’s a center, don’t you default into thinking he’s going to put the work in to ensure that happens?

Also, telling him prematurely that he won’t play center going forward will certainly not go over well. And say what you want about accepting roles and whatever, but I don’t think you can even toy with the idea of telling Bedard that he can’t play his natural position any time soon.

I’d rather provide the support he needs to make it happen, and if it doesn’t work out four or five years from now, sign or trade for a guy to fill that role.
 
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Kevin Musto said:
Why are you the second person to make a comment like this?

One feature of a player doesn't erase everything else.

Cristall is elite. Reschny isn't.

Brendan Gallagher spends lots of time on the inside. Doesn't mean I'd take him over Mathew Barzal who spends a lot of time on the outside.
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Cristall is small and slow, didnt you say Hawks cant have too many small forwards??
 
It would be sweet to grab a Curt Fraser , Stan Smyl , Bryan Bickell , Troy Brouwer type winger from our 25th pick on .

40. Shane Vansaghi, RW, Michigan State University (NCAA)

41. Jakob Ihs-Wozniak, RW, Luleå HF J20 (J20 Nationell
45. William Horcoff, LW, U. Michigan (NCAA)
59. Mason West, C, Fargo Force (USHL)
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RememberTheRoar said:
Bedard says unequivocally that he wants to be an NHL center. If the guy that you’re building your franchise around says he’s a center, don’t you default into thinking he’s going to put the work in to ensure that happens?

Also, telling him prematurely that he won’t play center going forward will certainly not go over well. And say what you want about accepting roles and whatever, but I don’t think you can even toy with the idea of telling Bedard that he can’t play his natural position any time soon.

I’d rather provide the support he needs to make it happen, and if it doesn’t work out four or five years from now, sign or trade for a guy to fill that role.
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I get what you're saying. I think he should get another year at center to see how it goes, and they should pick a player this year that provides optionality down the road, if Bedard sticks at C they can kick Nazar or the pick at 3 out to wing. Martone doesn't provide that optionality since he's a winger so if you pick him you need to either address this risk in 2026 or be really sure about Bedard sticking at center long term. It's hard to bet against his work ethic and talent but we'll see what happens.
 
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I’m starting to think Martin at 3 might be the best pick now.Getting Roenick vibes from him.He has shown he is among the best in his age group in international play.Unless Misa falls to 3.
 
Cold Steel on Ice said:
I’m starting to think Martin at 3 might be the best pick now.Getting Roenick vibes from him.He has shown he is among the best in his age group in international play.Unless Misa falls to 3.
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if you have this type of conviction and think he could be there in the 5-10 range then probably best to move down with say Buffalo and try to get their 2026 1st unprotected and hope they're terrible again, taking him at 3 doesn't seem smart if you think the likelihood he's there at 5-10 is high and you can get other assets to do it
 
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Picking a C at 3 and shifting Bedard to wing will open a lot more up for him. If he really wants to stick at C pick Desnoyers and they can split faceoff duties based on who is on strong side of the ice since Des is a lefty. Bedard can take some draws but Des will take on most of defensive responsibility. Hopefully can play a bit like Mctavish and Bedard duo at world juniors they were incredible
 
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