2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

[BLKHKhockey]

is there something holding Martone back from improving his skating in the next couple of years?

 

[TheFridge]

is there something holding Martone back from improving his skating in the next couple of years?

His skating will improve but you almost never see players make significant gains post-draft, especially the high-end guys.

 

[eklund2chicago]

Saw this on twitter and thought it was interesting

Pretty big regression in Martone’s production in the second half of the year.

And Michael Misa is the final boss of consistency this year

 

[eklund2chicago]

Pretty big regression in Martone’s production in the second half of the year.

And Michael Misa is the final boss of consistency this year

Frondell went from 4 in 9 in 2024 to 21 in 20 in 2025

Eklund went from 15 in 24 in 2024 to 16 in 18

 

[Kevin Musto]

Saw this on twitter and thought it was interesting

Pretty big regression in Martone’s production in the second half of the year.

And Michael Misa is the final boss of consistency this year

He was still playing at well above a ppg pace in the second half of the year

It's just that he started at such an astronomical high, that it was difficult to maintain

It's not like he cratered

 

[Putt Pirate]

Internet scouts? Who get paid by the click? I'm sorry, I'm not clicking ads or subbing somebodys patreon for a generic hot take for views.

Most of these internet scouts are garbage until they say something ppl agree with then they're the smartest guys in the room.

No thanks.


I highly doubt it, but carry on my wayward son.

Just reading he sometimes takes some time to process and this is why he seems to float at times. Not a bad IQ just processing time. When things get quicker as he advances, that is something that is of some concern if it is true.

 

[hawksfan50]

Martone is no warrior..but Brady Martin is uber warrior..Again if he played on a better team/better help,he woukd have obviously put up more than 72 points in aporox same number of games as Mattone or Desnoyers.

But it is not only about points.With Desnoyers you get maybe a future Selle winer.hehas such good defensively habits and reads and intuitions do figures oranges and positioning to best use to intercept pucks or close off rushcattacks and is in correct position like few I he seen this young .. alreadycahead of tge game defensively...Much more effective 2 ways than Martine.. Less p/pg but a better net differential advantage.

With Martin you get a more difficult offensive compare because he had no help i the Soo..hexwas by far their best pkayer and had litlkwctalent to help him..Out hom o better teansxand his oructuonat least 15-25piibts hogher...But the extra you get is the uber compete/relentless work ethic...

So realky a question of styke...more cerebral and instinctual 2 way Drsnoyers or more physical straight line determined focused catalyst ofctge forecheck take it to the net create chaos and hustle to hit and knock off rge puck and destroy attack threats you get with Martin.

Either of Drsnoyers or Martin Hawks could use as better fits than allotted candidates at #3 unless you allow for JajeO'broens longer runway to improve ...because given his relative youth i the draft (Junec2007 bithdate) he is not yet at the level I some aspects that he will beconevoncevhe fills out getsxeven stringercand adds sone more speed to his game and gets betterxatcdwfebsivecreads..Still..because hevis the best pasdr I tge draft he did put up 98 poi ts despite playing only 2C ..yes nearly half his poibts o the Po...but if he had centered Lardisconlunec1 in 5x5 he would have had more 5x5 loi ts..

So you he got to understand players roles and how moch help aroubd them and what else they bring to the table besides point production.


I just worry about Nartinecnot bringing enough focus consistently...can slack off certain shifts. HAS a lit of high skill but you also want cobsistentvwork ethic. AND he dies not fitvtgexKD soedd/pacectests ..

Frondelk definitelyvakso too skowcand notca goidvouck transporter through the neutral zone I do notcsed KD breaking hiscskatibg prioriryvto take him.

So if we cannot get Misa ..eitger trade down . Trade up to get Misa or stand out and choose 1 of: Desnoyers,Martin or O'Brien....With tge first 2 you know what you are gettibg..albeit differingvstykescofvpkay .but consistency is there..both 299ft players You can trust them for why you drafted them.. With O'Brien thefevis more to get to ..has sone aspects down pat already(pasdibg/pkaymaking...but nedds to getvto hogher level i firing more shotscon goal (hevhas a good shoot..just nerdscto shoot more...on tge pp he easily compiles assists..butca a more go to 1C role nextcseason inBrantford hecwill need to show less deference to set up veyscon the Po and to also score more goals both obtye Po and in5x5..When ge does that you shoukd see maybe the highest production level he can getvto and project the highest cekibg...atca level Nisacakreadycachoed this season..If you take O'brien you mist be convinced he can improve to that higher level and lead the OHLni scoring next sesson then xo tinue to reach real 1C starstar level as a pro.

ButMaybe KD will not gamble on that potential ..Settle for help he cM rely on albeit at lower than top star pitential but good enough for good 2way consistent 2nd kibe nhl potential help as you know Drsnoyersvor Martin can give you.

 

[TheFridge]

Saw this on twitter and thought it was interesting

Pretty big regression in Martone’s production in the second half of the year.

And Michael Misa is the final boss of consistency this year

Junior players tend not to score at greater than a 2 PpG pace over an entire season. He still scored 1.41 PpG over the second half; good for a 93-point pace over 65 games.

It's really just a testament to Misa's consistency that he was able to maintain that pace. Certainly helped that Sagniaw got Chernyshov in the second half of the year too.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Why would you need to click an ad? You know you don't need to do that, right Kris?

Miss the point that the "scouts" you are referring to have to use such low level internet shenanigans to get "paid" but carry on...

Want to bet?

Gambling is for suckers

 

[Darkstar]

Martone didn't look the same coming off the U20's. I have no idea why that was. He finished strong and looked great in the playoffs.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Oh the guy who lies about his lifestyle is back. Neat.

 

[Larmer83]

It's always amusing when the clown car of justinfieldsisbest drives into town. From prior to last years draft:
"BPA is;
Celebrini
Sily/Parekh
Eiserman

These four are going to be first line/first pairing guys".

Celebrini was a lay up. krissybryantisbest is not even a broken clock.

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

Hmm

Somebody called that way before the bandwagon....

At 3, you take Hagens. There is a huge drop off in offensive talent after Misa and Hagens. You can point to his lackluster year in college and I can tell you he had nothing to play for and knows he's going high in the draft and not getting injured was more important than scoring at over 2 per game.

Yeah I bet he told you that himself during an epic Fortnite sesh.

 

[CallMeShaft]

Okay people, I think everyone here knows my opinion on THAT poster, so believe me when I say that their posts are being watched very closely. If anything from them can be interpreted as an attempt at trolling, we'll try to handle it. There is certainly no love lost between me and them.

Having said that, we don't need to get this thread sidetracked by people going out of their way to trash said poster. If you want to call them out on some of their outlandish claims from the past in order to try to prove a point that correlates with the thread's overall discussion, go for it. But we don't need to shine a light on their previous claims of internet stardom. If it's brought up by them again, feel free to respond (or report), but we don't need to waste oxygen bringing it up out of the clear blue.

 

[TheFridge]

Miss the point that the "scouts" you are referring to have to use such low level internet shenanigans to get "paid" but carry on...


Gambling is for suckers

I mean, a lot of them work behind paywalls my guy. They don't use ads. But again, you don't need to click on any ads from free sites Kris.

Sounds like you're not very confident in your proclamation. I wouldn't be either.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Just reading he sometimes takes some time to process and this is why he seems to float at times. Not a bad IQ just processing time. When things get quicker as he advances, that is something that is of some concern if it is true.

I just don't see anything special in Martone.

I think the Hawks will choose either Desnoyers or Frondell and would be happy with either.

If it was my choice, I would take Hagens. Hagens has elite skill and you should never pass up the best player available to fill a need but here we are...

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

Okay people, I think everyone here knows my opinion on THAT poster, so believe me when I say that their posts are being watched very closely. If anything from them can be interpreted as an attempt at trolling, we'll try to handle it. There is certainly no love lost between me and them.

Having said that, we don't need to get this thread sidetracked by people going out of their way to trash said poster. If you want to call them out on some of their outlandish claims from the past in order to try to prove a point that correlates with the thread's overall discussion, go for it. But we don't need to shine a light on their previous claims of internet stardom. If it's brought up by them again, feel free to respond (or report), but we don't need to waste oxygen bringing it up out of the clear blue.

 

[Nazzz]

Martone is no warrior..but Brady Martin is uber warrior..Again if he played on a better team/better help,he woukd have obviously put up more than 72 points in aporox same number of games as Mattone or Desnoyers.

But it is not only about points.With Desnoyers you get maybe a future Selle winer.hehas such good defensively habits and reads and intuitions do figures oranges and positioning to best use to intercept pucks or close off rushcattacks and is in correct position like few I he seen this young .. alreadycahead of tge game defensively...Much more effective 2 ways than Martine.. Less p/pg but a better net differential advantage.

With Martin you get a more difficult offensive compare because he had no help i the Soo..hexwas by far their best pkayer and had litlkwctalent to help him..Out hom o better teansxand his oructuonat least 15-25piibts hogher...But the extra you get is the uber compete/relentless work ethic...

So realky a question of styke...more cerebral and instinctual 2 way Drsnoyers or more physical straight line determined focused catalyst ofctge forecheck take it to the net create chaos and hustle to hit and knock off rge puck and destroy attack threats you get with Martin.

Either of Drsnoyers or Martin Hawks could use as better fits than allotted candidates at #3 unless you allow for JajeO'broens longer runway to improve ...because given his relative youth i the draft (Junec2007 bithdate) he is not yet at the level I some aspects that he will beconevoncevhe fills out getsxeven stringercand adds sone more speed to his game and gets betterxatcdwfebsivecreads..Still..because hevis the best pasdr I tge draft he did put up 98 poi ts despite playing only 2C ..yes nearly half his poibts o the Po...but if he had centered Lardisconlunec1 in 5x5 he would have had more 5x5 loi ts..

So you he got to understand players roles and how moch help aroubd them and what else they bring to the table besides point production.


I just worry about Nartinecnot bringing enough focus consistently...can slack off certain shifts. HAS a lit of high skill but you also want cobsistentvwork ethic. AND he dies not fitvtgexKD soedd/pacectests ..

Frondelk definitelyvakso too skowcand notca goidvouck transporter through the neutral zone I do notcsed KD breaking hiscskatibg prioriryvto take him.

So if we cannot get Misa ..eitger trade down . Trade up to get Misa or stand out and choose 1 of: Desnoyers,Martin or O'Brien....With tge first 2 you know what you are gettibg..albeit differingvstykescofvpkay .but consistency is there..both 299ft players You can trust them for why you drafted them.. With O'Brien thefevis more to get to ..has sone aspects down pat already(pasdibg/pkaymaking...but nedds to getvto hogher level i firing more shotscon goal (hevhas a good shoot..just nerdscto shoot more...on tge pp he easily compiles assists..butca a more go to 1C role nextcseason inBrantford hecwill need to show less deference to set up veyscon the Po and to also score more goals both obtye Po and in5x5..When ge does that you shoukd see maybe the highest production level he can getvto and project the highest cekibg...atca level Nisacakreadycachoed this season..If you take O'brien you mist be convinced he can improve to that higher level and lead the OHLni scoring next sesson then xo tinue to reach real 1C starstar level as a pro.

ButMaybe KD will not gamble on that potential ..Settle for help he cM rely on albeit at lower than top star pitential but good enough for good 2way consistent 2nd kibe nhl potential help as you know Drsnoyersvor Martin can give you.

Desnoyers isn't a future Selke winner (not yet). He's very willing to play defense, but his greatest asset is his offensive game.
The way he thinks about the game is what puts him on another level.
He attacks with speed or pull up, take good decisions, creates openings space for his tmates, distributes the puck, plays with timing, and, above all, off the puck, he always finds open space to break down defenses. Desnoyers' sense of hockey cannot be taught but his defensive game has a lot of room for improvement.

 

[Deputy McRizzy]

Okay people, I think everyone here knows my opinion on THAT poster, so believe me when I say that their posts are being watched very closely. If anything from them can be interpreted as an attempt at trolling, we'll try to handle it. There is certainly no love lost between me and them.

Having said that, we don't need to get this thread sidetracked by people going out of their way to trash said poster. If you want to call them out on some of their outlandish claims from the past in order to try to prove a point that correlates with the thread's overall discussion, go for it. But we don't need to shine a light on their previous claims of internet stardom. If it's brought up by them again, feel free to respond (or report), but we don't need to waste oxygen bringing it up out of the clear blue.

So bait the troll got it.

 

[CallMeShaft]

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Hey bro, don't get pissy at me. I'm a mod now, I gotta follow protocol.

And you're the one posting gifs of Yakuza. At least try to get your point across with a Fortnite gif if you're gonna complain about this.

 

[CallMeShaft]

So bait the troll got it.

No.

 

[Deputy McRizzy]

No.

Message received loud and clear.

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

Hey bro, don't get pissy at me. I'm a mod now, I gotta follow protocol.

And you're the one posting gifs of Yakuza. At least try to get your point across with a Fortnite gif if you're gonna complain about this.

I'm not pissy, just f***ing around. Also a Fortnite gif? Me? Never!

 

[CallMeShaft]

I'm not pissy, just f***ing around. Also a Fortnite gif? Me? Never!

Fortnite is what all the cool kids who are streaming on Twitch play...

 

[Darkstar]

Oh the guy who lies about his lifestyle is back. Neat.

I figured he'd be too busy begging for subs from his dents on Twitch to grace us with his presence.