2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

[Nazzz]

Being PPG in as a true freshman in college is 1000% more impressive than anything Desnoyers has done in the worst league of the CHL

be ready . The Blackhawks really like certain QMJHL players, and if you watch the Moncton playoffs, you'd understand why.

 

[Nazzz]

Watched almost the entire Moncton game last night. Desnoyer is my pick. Absolutely love the guy. I don't buy Q argument, especially at this stage in the year. The top teams in the Q are absolutely as good as anywhere else in the CHL.

could have finished with six assists last night. epic game

 

[TLEH]

Watched almost the entire Moncton game last night. Desnoyer is my pick. Absolutely love the guy. I don't buy Q argument, especially at this stage in the year. The top teams in the Q are absolutely as good as anywhere else in the CHL.

I mean as a whole the league is just simply not as good. The top teams are just as good, but day in and day out, the players as a whole are just weaker.

It plays out in the # of draft picks, etc.

 

[Kevin Musto]

The Q is mid.

The bottom feeders are really bad, and there's simply less NHL talent there compared to the OHL and WHL.

The OHL has more than triple the amount of the drafted players. It's not even close.

USHL is better than the Q too because their top players go straight to college. Produces more talent.

 

[Chuck Testa]

The Q is mid.

The bottom feeders are really bad, and there's simply less NHL talent there compared to the OHL and WHL.

The OHL has more than triple the amount of the drafted players. It's not even close.

USHL is better than the Q too because their top players go straight to college. Produces more talent.

That's why I'm not super high on Desnoyers... He could very well be benefitting from being a big fish in a small pond and the Q team that he plays on is stacked.

I would not be happy if he gets taken at 3. Just the same as I wasn't happy when they took Dach at 3.

 

[Kevin Musto]

That's why I'm not super high on Desnoyers... He could very well be benefitting from being a big fish in a small pond and the Q team that he plays on is stacked.

I would not be happy if he gets taken at 3. Just the same as I wasn't happy when they took Dach at 3.

In the regular season, yes.

But I wouldn't count out his playoff run. He is playing well against the league's top teams.

Memorial Cup will be a true test though. On the WHL side it's either going to be Medicine Hat with McKenna or Spokane with Cristall and Catton. OHL will either be a mega stacked London team or Oshawa with Sennecke, Ritchie, Barlow, Danford.

No matter the match up, the WHL and OHL reps are way stronger on paper than Moncton.

I'd imagine Moncton will get dominated, but it's a good test for Desnoyers.

 

[x Tame Impala]

we are now at point where we are really talking ourselves into Desnoyers at #3....TRADE THE PICK!

FOR WHO? Shouting it doesn't make it more profound.

 

[TLEH]

Medicine Hat should win the Mem cup if it’s based on talent alone. That team is absolutely stacked.

 

[unbridledid]

FOR WHO? Shouting it doesn't make it more profound.

 

[unbridledid]

In the regular season, yes.

But I wouldn't count out his playoff run. He is playing well against the league's top teams.

Memorial Cup will be a true test though. On the WHL side it's either going to be Medicine Hat with McKenna or Spokane with Cristall and Catton. OHL will either be a mega stacked London team or Oshawa with Sennecke, Ritchie, Barlow, Danford.

No matter the match up, the WHL and OHL reps are way stronger on paper than Moncton.

I'd imagine Moncton will get dominated, but it's a good test for Desnoyers.

If he rises to the challenge, then would he be a candidate for #3 ?

 

[Chelios]

In the regular season, yes.

But I wouldn't count out his playoff run. He is playing well against the league's top teams.

Memorial Cup will be a true test though. On the WHL side it's either going to be Medicine Hat with McKenna or Spokane with Cristall and Catton. OHL will either be a mega stacked London team or Oshawa with Sennecke, Ritchie, Barlow, Danford.

No matter the match up, the WHL and OHL reps are way stronger on paper than Moncton.

I'd imagine Moncton will get dominated, but it's a good test for Desnoyers.

The Q does very well at the Memorial cup usually. I would be surprised if this year is any different.

 

[eklund2chicago]

If he rises to the challenge, then would he be a candidate for #3 ?

He probably already is a candidate at 3.

 

[bwanajamba]

That's why I'm not super high on Desnoyers... He could very well be benefitting from being a big fish in a small pond and the Q team that he plays on is stacked.

I would not be happy if he gets taken at 3. Just the same as I wasn't happy when they took Dach at 3.

Benefitting in what sense? If anything it's poisoned the well against him a bit because people don't take the Q seriously

He is leading his stacked team in scoring by a lot. 1.5 points per game vs 1.26 for his closest teammate in the regular season, 1.86 vs 1.2 in the playoffs. His 1.5 ppg in the regular season was 2nd in the league behind an overager and for the playoffs he's first (by more than half a point a game over anyone who's played more than one round's worth of games)

And before you dismiss the numbers out of hand, the Q is indeed a weaker league overall but is a lower scoring environment than either the W or OHL.

Q goals per game this year: 6.70
OHL: 7.325
WHL: 6.996

There is certainly noise to sort through in that but dismissing a player based on league just a shortcut. If you watch the games there is definitely some ugly hockey going on but it isn't the kind that makes scoring easy. He rarely creates offense by dangling hapless defenders like some accused Demidov of doing. He plays a very intelligent pro-style game.

 

[Kevin Musto]

If he rises to the challenge, then would he be a candidate for #3 ?

He's already in consideration at #3. We know from Scott Powers that the Hawks have interest in him.

But how he fares against the top dogs in the WHL or OHL I think carries a lot of weight.

For example, we already know what Martone looks like when he plays against a team like London or Oshawa. How does Desnoyers look against those same teams? You can make a direct comparison there which is valuable.

 

[hawksfan50]

Saw Denyoywrs play tge first 2 games of Moncton playing Rimousku..

First game he had 1 primary assists butonly 2 shots attempted(though he also had 1 attempt not counted as it hit the bottom of the post on the Rimouski goalie's right side barely missing a goal...But his assist in that 4-1win for Moncton was world class highlight reel stuff as he dangled and undressed a Rimouski dman Totten slidectge puck to an openOeckrcik for an easy shove in goal at a gaping net as the goalie was drawn to cover tge angle fronan expected shot from Desnoyers in the slot.

In game 2 last night in the double OT win by Moncton he had 3 primary assists and a +3 and 5 shot attemots with 4 of them on goal...no goals for him still abd these primary assists more ordinary as the finishers dod most of the work on the pkay...but in both games a few "almost" scores because of sonething Drsnoyers did.

You notice how goidvhe is to stop onacdibecabd change direction..There was a Savardian spinarama move in the skot where he somehow found a dish to a lubemate for a shot on goal..no svore but coukdvhave been another assist..More impressive was his use and visualizations space and his twist and moves to get into open positions off his checks..if teammates had gotten the puck to him he woukd be in the best pistions to score..but they did not..Tgeblint is he is very hockey smart ,deceptive.. can danglecwith the puck,can soed up or slow down plays..moves aroubdcthevice=not a stationery pkayer..ipoery..hard to keep your check on hom...Sonetibes instinct on the Po is to grand screen the goalie.. other times pkayscup high and looks to beat 1 xhecl then dish.. But even more impressive to me is his instinct for defending..also has the speed and angles to cut off ,back-check and intercept passes in the lanes then go tgevotherxway..Therevis so much to lijecabout thisxtyoevofv2 way pkayer who is a better threat than most 2 way players Tgere isxsinecedge to his game. He does use body checks on guys at the boards to get pucks loose or to let a teamates cretieve loose puck ..but he does not throw how many open ice hits..

Hard to imagine he cooukd not help either top 2 lines for the Hawks..

I would not say though that he was the best Moncton forward in either of the 2 games so far Justcygat he is very good in a lot of things could help the Hawks ..

Would like to see him beat the Rinouski goalies with shot goals though..

I do see the "I need to be the best player on the ice and carry my team on my back" demonstration from him ...more of " if I do everything right,scoring chances will cone for my team, and the opps will not score much against us " ...so Not a Takeover A Game by Myself " mentality...
..rather a play smart..wait for the right moment to help a scoring chane and always be responsible in checking down the opps mentality.

As I said ..lots to like even if you wish he could multi-goak hero and doninate by hinself which superstars do.

Still a very useful help type player..smart and skilled with good defending habits..

As to draws..was 9/15 last night and 4/5 in the first hane..Last night they used him morevoromonemtly taking draesxand defending as Center..in game 1 was used mostlybonthecwubgvand notvtakibgcas many draws.

Seems the Moncton coach likes to mix roles for him.

He dod No get used to kill pebaluriesclastvnight ..but heaven his defending skills I think other coaches would..

 

[unbridledid]

He's already in consideration at #3. We know from Scott Powers that the Hawks have interest in him.

But how he fares against the top dogs in the WHL or OHL I think carries a lot of weight.

For example, we already know what Martone looks like when he plays against a team like London or Oshawa. How does Desnoyers look against those same teams? You can make a direct comparison there which is valuable.

Your consideration.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Your consideration.

?

He's like at the bottom of my consideration.

Scott Powers has cited that the Hawks like Misa, Martone, Desnoyers, and Frondell. That's coming directly from him, not me.

 

[Nazzz]

The Q is mid.

The bottom feeders are really bad, and there's simply less NHL talent there compared to the OHL and WHL.

The OHL has more than triple the amount of the drafted players. It's not even close.

USHL is better than the Q too because their top players go straight to college. Produces more talent.

Lol the two goalies in the QMJHL final are better than any other currently playing in the OHL and WHL.
I can't stop being amazed at the statements of those who are supposed to watch junior hockey.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Lol the two goalies in the QMJHL final are better than any other currently playing in the OHL and WHL.
I can't stop being amazed at the statements of those who are supposed to watch junior hockey.

Based off of what???

I also fail to see how two goalies is any indication of league strength lol

 

[hawksfan50]

The goakues were great in that Moncton Rinouski game last night Sone ten belk saves..

 

[Hawkaholic]

Lol the two goalies in the QMJHL final are better than any other currently playing in the OHL and WHL.
I can't stop being amazed at the statements of those who are supposed to watch junior hockey.

?

 

[statswatcher]

The goakues were great in that Moncton Rinouski game last night Sone ten belk saves..

ten belk saves is what my aunt does on black friday.

 

[Nazzz]

#waitforCaleb

 

[WarriorofTime]

It's kinda funny looking back how the Quebec Remparts cleaned the Seattle Thunderbirds clock two years ago. Quebec had like 1 NHL player (Bolduc) and 3 guys developing in the AHL then a bunch of USports washouts.

Something something whole not equal to sum of its parts.

 

[TLEH]

Lol the two goalies in the QMJHL final are better than any other currently playing in the OHL and WHL.
I can't stop being amazed at the statements of those who are supposed to watch junior hockey.

Look at the numbers of drafted players from the Q vs OHL and WHL. Its literally, not even close. Here shows the trend of the QMJHL in general, Couple spike years in 2013 and 2015, but for the most part, its continued to trend down.

In terms of Stanley Cup playoff participants..

In total, there are 101 graduates hailing from the Ontario Hockey League (OHL), 65 from the Western Hockey League (WHL), and 39 from the Quebec Maritimes Junior Hockey League (QMJHL).