2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

What team meets the following criteria?
1. Has a need for a high draft pick
2. Has a good, team controlled winger available
3. Wants to trade said winger away?

Vancouver and Elias Petersson. I think they would bite on the immediate high pick and get out from the situation, they will have to rebuild anyway because there is no way they can keep Hughes imo.

Of course for us it would have to be a ready made 3 team deal. But EP40 is a ready piece for a playoff team who wants to reshuffle their cards.

My favorite:

To Vancouver: 3OA
To Chicago: Svechnikov
To Carolina: EP40

Add wherever you need.

If not Carolina, there are some other options too who could be in for an EP40 retool experience or need to shake things up to get over hurdles.

For example LA and Tampa - they clearly need more, but their assets are either limited or aren't as attractive as a 3rd overall pick.

To Vancouver: 3OA
To Los Angeles: EP40
To Chicago: Byfield & Lafferierre

To Vancouver: 3OA
To Tampa: EP40
To Chicago: Howard, Geekie + (maybe Hagel?)

Ok the Tampa one is much worse and not enough, so maybe there aren't so many options out there. The rest of the teams like Calgary, Buffalo, Montreal etc I think have enough pieces to make a deal directly with Vancouver so no need for us.

But I do like the Caroline and LA trades.

In any case, I'd only trade the pick for a young, high ceiling player that is NHL ready already and fits our style of play. We don't need more assets/prospects, and if they're not speedy/compete players, then just take Martone or the like.
 
What team meets the following criteria?
1. Has a need for a high draft pick
2. Has a good, team controlled winger available
3. Wants to trade said winger away?
David Pastrnak. Now, I wouldn’t say he’s available. But it’s a legitimate move for Boston they could go quick rebuild that way and they traded Marchand.

I also think our team is a bunch of effing nerds. Vlasic bedard Levshunov Rinzel. We need an OG maroon style to liven these kids up. Nazar can’t do it himself. Pasta would get the boys going
 
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Craig Buttonnjust did a mock draft where he has SJ taking Porter Martone who he compares to Brady Tkachuk...Saying SJ has Celebrini and Smith as their 2 Cs for tte top 2lines ..The need big wibger support for them...Yes they have Chernyshov coming..but Adding anither big physical winger to support their centers could make the best sense for them...They have San Dickinson kissing coming so the fact they did not get to draft Schaefer (who will go to NYI unless they are crazy) ,would seem to give the Hawks Misa at#3 if it goes according to Button's latest mock.

If thatvis tge SJ plan
..maybethey try to deal with Chicago or with Utah to move down 1 orc2 spits and still get Martone..they know Chucago wants Misa..Of Utah also wants him,maybe they extract extra draft capital playing off Chi vs Utah...and knowing Martone would still be there forv hem?

Maybe Hawks forced to give up pick#29 or whatever it is depending on how far Leafs go in remaining playoffs or maybe pick #34.to ensure they get Misa????

Point is....maybe SJ goes for position need rather than create 3 way jam of top Centers which will eventually cost too much cap for 3 stars at 1 position down the line at the expense of weaker depth in the wings? of

Hawks shoukd prioritize a C to take tge 2C roke if Bedard remains top line C?I never believed Hawks should have 2 small Cs to run the top 2 lines...Either Bedard or Nazar has got to pkay wing role.

Next draft ...IF Hawksare lottery team still...and they get lucky and win the #1=LW Gavin McKenna..If not otger wingers then..The priority is to get tge 2C filled now and help for Bedard via Free agency ..

Marone...yes Hawkscin theory coukd also use size on the wings and nire physicality.. but he does not fit the KD priority drFt profike of Skatibg first above alk else..Stribg and Phsyical but does not check the skating and pace boxes..also sone defensive and work ethic consistency issues.

If tge Hawjs cannot get Misa then Desnoyers fits the 2 way 2C role ...as Rounekiotis quoted 1 scout ,A Phillip Daniel but with better offensive upside..

The Hawks xoukd trade down a few spots and still get Brady Martin for 2C (but can also play wing as he did at u18s...but hexwas the #1C in the Sooin the OHL this season)..he gives them uber compete and physicality relentless forechecking and back checking .. so another 2 way C ...less intuitive/cerebral and deceptive than Drsnoyers..but much more physical and has much greater speed..Drsnoyers sloer pace than Martin but very hogh hockey IQ...Martin more relentless energy and will and a power game. Stragaight ahead and to the net. Win puck races.. win board battles.. Goodd net front too..

I can live with either Desnoyers or Martin as our 2C ...Hagens out= too snall too timid and did not live upto the hype as a freshman at B.C..strikehim off any consideration.. wrong fit.

Fribdell= slow pace and slow skater.. Does not fit Hawjs profile.. Some scouts think he pkaysxonly at wing in the NHL...too slow for C unless he goes to a slow but heavy team in a different style than Hawks with uptempo game.

The Hawks coukd gamble on the longer runway for Jake O'brien...Maybe higher offebsive ceiling of any C in this draft because he cN get better as hecadds weight to his frame and can take over as 1C next season ibBrantford..He has not hit his Jr. Ceikibgvyet because he only pkayed 2C ...did not pkaycwith Brantford top wingers (ie. Lardis) exceot on the top Pp..So as 1C will need to improve his 5x5 production in addition to his high Pp production...Vanackercwill also move up to their top line this season ... O'Brien only had Vanacker back a few months into the season and Vanacjer did not regain top form till late February/early March...so he orovabky has a kot more than 98 points if Vanacker ojayex alk season at top forming that 2nd line.

So would JD bet in further upside for O'Brien...for filing out a big 6'2 frame and getting stronger and for upping his shot volume as he assumes the go to #1C role this season in Brantford?
I think KD woukd ratger fill that 2C roke this season ratger than wait.

But Desnoyers akso needs to add weight and gets strobger..Is he NH L ready ...Misa is ready.

Maybe Martin is ready because he plays bigger than his cuurentv178lb weight.Plays a physical man's game akready.

So:
Misa if obtainable =slam dunk rge top target for our 2C role.
Martin maybe the only other C oro ready given his man's game and physicality.

Desnoyers. .maybe if he can add 15 lbs to his lanky frame thissummer...if not back to Jrs to develop his body 1 more sesson.

O'Brien definitely needs 1 more Jr. Season both to develop his body and to improve in sone areas like shoiting more to score more goals and adding a bit more explosion in his skating which has improved since start of 24/25 season butcstill has room to get bettervifvhecworksvon it.Bit definitely notvNHL ready.

If we can get Misa alk tgexskterbatives go away ..if notcalk rgeviptions are in play.
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But Hagebs and Frindell Shoukd beviffvtgebkustv...bad fits forcwhatctgecHawksxwzntvand need at Center.
 
I think Misa and Schaefer may be gone. But why wouldn't the Sharks take a
guy like Martone ? If Misa and Schaefer are gone...then we take Martone or
Desnoyers and keep on keeping on.

No to trading the pick, slow and steady rebuild with young cost controlled
talent.
We may be overthinking this. Pick whoever is left of:

Schaefer
Misa
Martone

If they really really like Desnoyers, then just pick him at 3 and be done with it.
 
It doesn't sound like there is a huge drop off from the top 2 to the next 3. I am fine with trading up if possible as we will not have enough spaces for everyone eventually. But that would need to be a slam dunk must have (which I don't see this draft). I am not even that high on Schafer anymore since he has sat so much. How do you know he wouldn't have gone down like Hagens? Too much unknown for me.
 
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Craig Button just did a mock draft where he has San Jose (SJ) taking Porter Martone, who he compares to Brady Tkachuk. He says SJ has Celebrini and Smith as their two centers for the top two lines. They need big winger support for them. Yes, they have Chernyshov coming, but adding another big, physical winger to support their centers could make the most sense for them. They have San Dickinson coming, so the fact that they did not get to draft Schaefer (who will go to NYI unless they are crazy) would seem to give the Hawks Misa at #3 if it goes according to Button's latest mock.

If that’s the SJ plan, maybe they try to deal with Chicago or with Utah to move down one or two spots and still get Martone. They know Chicago wants Misa, and if Utah also wants him, maybe they can extract extra draft capital by playing off Chicago vs. Utah... and knowing Martone would still be there for them?

Maybe the Hawks are forced to give up pick #29 or whatever it is, depending on how far the Leafs go in the remaining playoffs, or maybe pick #34, to ensure they get Misa?

The point is, maybe SJ goes for positional need rather than create a three-way jam of top centers, which will eventually cost too much cap for three stars at one position, down the line, at the expense of weaker depth on the wings.

The Hawks should prioritize a center to take the 2C role if Bedard remains the top-line center. I never believed the Hawks should have two small centers running the top two lines. Either Bedard or Nazar has got to play the wing role.

Next draft... IF the Hawks are a lottery team still, and they get lucky and win the #1 overall pick, they should take LW Gavin McKenna. If not, other wingers then... The priority is to get the 2C filled now and help for Bedard via free agency.

Martone... yes, the Hawks could also use size on the wings and more physicality, but he doesn’t fit the KD priority draft profile of skating first above all else. Strong and physical, but he does not check the skating and pace boxes. Also, there are some defensive and work ethic consistency issues.

If the Hawks cannot get Misa, then Desnoyers fits the two-way 2C role, as Roumeliotis quoted one scout, a Phillip Danault, but with better offensive upside.

The Hawks could trade down a few spots and still get Brady Martin for the 2C role (but he can also play wing, as he did at U18s... but he was the #1 center in the OHL this season). He gives them uber-competitiveness, physicality, relentless forechecking, and backchecking. So, another two-way center... less intuitive, cerebral, and deceptive than Desnoyers, but much more physical and has much greater speed. Desnoyers is slower in pace than Martin but has a very high hockey IQ. Martin is more relentless in energy and will, with a power game. Straight ahead and to the net. Wins puck races, wins board battles. Good net-front presence too.

I can live with either Desnoyers or Martin as our 2C... Hagens? Out. Too small, too timid, and did not live up to the hype as a freshman at BC. Strike him off any consideration. Wrong fit.

Frondell: slow pace and slow skater. Does not fit the Hawks' profile. Some scouts think he only plays at wing in the NHL. Too slow for center unless he goes to a slow but heavy team in a different style than the Hawks with an uptempo game.

The Hawks could gamble on the longer runway for Jake O'Brien. Maybe the highest offensive ceiling of any center in this draft because he can get better as he adds weight to his frame and can take over as 1C next season in Brantford. He has not hit his junior ceiling yet because he only played 2C. Did not play with Brantford's top wingers (i.e., Lardis) except on the top power play. So, as 1C, he will need to improve his 5-on-5 production in addition to his high power-play production. Vanacker will also move up to their top line this season. O'Brien only had Vanacker back a few months into the season, and Vanacker did not regain top form until late February/early March, so he probably has a lot more than 98 points if Vanacker plays all season at top form on that second line.

So, would KD bet on further upside for O'Brien, for filling out a big 6'2 frame, getting stronger, and upping his shot volume as he assumes the go-to #1C role this season in Brantford? I think KD would rather fill that 2C role this season rather than wait.

But Desnoyers also needs to add weight and get stronger. Is he NHL-ready? Misa is ready.

Maybe Martin is ready because he plays bigger than his current 178-pound weight. Plays a physical man's game already.

So:
  • Misa, if obtainable = slam dunk as the top target for our 2C role.
  • Martin, maybe the only other center already ready, given his man’s game and physicality.
  • Desnoyers... maybe if he can add 15 pounds to his lanky frame this summer. If not, back to juniors to develop his body for one more season.
  • O'Brien definitely needs one more junior season to develop his body and to improve in some areas like shooting more to score more goals and adding a bit more explosion in his skating, which has improved since the start of the 2024/25 season but still has room to get better if he works on it. But definitely not NHL-ready.
If we can get Misa, all the alternatives go away. If not, all the other options are in play.

But Hagens and Frondell should be off the list... bad fits for what the Hawks want and need at center.
 
I see a lot of talk about Martone being the pick and thought that I would share something that I
I wrote on the Blackhawks Reddit sub where I try to explain who we will pick and why.
And for reference this isn’t just about glazing Frondell. For instance, I have Hagens ahead. This is just speculation of who I think we will take.

I know that a lot of you won’t agree with how I view the player but I think, if we’re being honest with ourselves, it’s pretty likely that Frondell will be the pick if Misa isn’t available, based on what this front office values.

This is what I wrote:

If Michael Misa isn’t available at 3 I’m pretty certain that Anton Frondell will be the pick and here’s why:

Reason #1: Rumours - In a recent The Athletic Hockey podcast Corey Pronman and Chris Peters reported live from the U18s in Texas that scouts are really high on Frondell and that some teams perhaps have him as their top forward. Scott Powers also wrote in an article a while back that Frondell is (among others) an option for Chicago.

Reason #2: Philosophy - The current front office has clearly stated that they value some qualities above others in players, especially skating and compete. Frondell isn’t the best skater but he has a powerful stride once he gets going. Compete on the other hand he has for days. He is also a great two way player, which KD also seem to value highly when you look at previous draft picks. Martone isn’t the best skater and the same goes for Desnoyers, who are other options at 3. Hagens is agile but doesn’t have the highest top speed. My point is that of the top forwards in this drafts (outside of Misa) Frondell fits what the Blackhawks are trying to build the most.

Reason #3: Anton Frondell as a player (the most important reason) - I feel like there is a narrative out there that Frondell isn’t that great of a prospect so I’m going to lay out why that’s far from the truth. Going into the year, Frondell was seen as one of the top prospects in the class. He had a great D-1 with stellar production in the Swedish J20 as a 16 year old. Unfortunately his spring last year as well as his fall got ruined by injuries, which led to his draft stock tanking in the public eye but not so much among scouts (he was five in January in Makenzie’s ranking). After finally coming back from injury he was excellent. Frondell finished the season with the highest producing rate of an U18 player in Hockeyallsvenskan of all time, beating out William Nylander and David Pastrnak. He also did this while playing third line minutes. Frondell acctually had the highest points per 60 minutes among all players in the entire league. For reference, Hockeyallsvenskan is a top 10 league on the planet and he did this as a 17 year old.

So outside of his production, what is it that makes Frondell’s game so appealing? Frondell is measured at 6ft (think that this will be adjusted til at least 6’1) but he plays like he’s 6’5. The kid is bullying grown men with his strong frame and fearless mentality, which is something that surely will transfer to the NHL. Frondell also has an elite shot and he’s really good at finding open lanes so that he can use it.

One fair criticism of Frondell is his transitional game, in which he often refers to his linemates. I don’t think he’s ever going to be an elite transitional player but it’s worth noting that he’s not horrible at it, he just knows his linemates (often Victor Eklund) excels at it more and therefore he lets him transport the puck to the offensive zone. It’s from the blue line and onwards where Frondell is in his habitat and where he can do it all. As I said, his shot and physical play is his best qualities but his IQ is really good as well.

Reason #4: The other options - This is just not about how good Frondell is, it’s also about the other options and why I don’t think they are as likely to be picked.

Porter Martone - Has an interesting profile but his production regressed throughout the year and his skating isn’t the best, which is something this front offices values. He is also one of the oldest players in the draft.

James Hagens - Personally I have Hagens above Frondell but Hagens is a small (maybe but not guaranteed) center and we have a few of those already. Therefore and combined with his mediocre season he won’t be the pick.

Caleb Desnoyers - Is similar to Frondell in how he competes but isn’t the best skater. I kind of thought that he would be an option but then Peters and Pronman talked about how high scouts view Frondell and it seems like it’s consensus that he’s ahead of Desnoyers.

They are all great players but based on what I think Davidson wants Frondell seems more like that player.

With this said, I’m pretty sure that Anton Frondell will be the pick (if Misa is not available, he seems like everything KD wants in a hockey player).
 
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I know that a lot of you won’t agree with how I view the player but I think, if we’re being honest with ourselves, it’s pretty likely that Frondell will be the pick if Misa isn’t available, based on what this front office values.
Same shit, different day about this board not being honest with ourselves. It's a bit preachy that there's dishonesty for not liking Frondell at #3.

Could Frondell be the Hawks pick? Absolutely. Same with Desnoyers, Hagens, and Martone. It's not an exact science.
 
I see a lot of talk about Martone being the pick and thought that I would share something that I
I wrote on the Blackhawks Reddit sub where I try to explain who we will pick and why.
And for reference this isn’t just about glazing Frondell. For instance, I have Hagens ahead. This is just speculation of who I think we will take.

I know that a lot of you won’t agree with how I view the player but I think, if we’re being honest with ourselves, it’s pretty likely that Frondell will be the pick if Misa isn’t available, based on what this front office values.

This is what I wrote:

If Michael Misa isn’t available at 3 I’m pretty certain that Anton Frondell will be the pick and here’s why:

Reason #1: Rumours - In a recent The Athletic Hockey podcast Corey Pronman and Chris Peters reported live from the U18s in Texas that scouts are really high on Frondell and that some teams perhaps have him as their top forward. Scott Powers also wrote in an article a while back that Frondell is (among others) an option for Chicago.

Reason #2: Philosophy - The current front office has clearly stated that they value some qualities above others in players, especially skating and compete. Frondell isn’t the best skater but he has a powerful stride once he gets going. Compete on the other hand he has for days. He is also a great two way player, which KD also seem to value highly when you look at previous draft picks. Martone isn’t the best skater and the same goes for Desnoyers, who are other options at 3. Hagens is agile but doesn’t have the highest top speed. My point is that of the top forwards in this drafts (outside of Misa) Frondell fits what the Blackhawks are trying to build the most.

Reason #3: Anton Frondell as a player (the most important reason) - I feel like there is a narrative out there that Frondell isn’t that great of a prospect so I’m going to lay out why that’s far from the truth. Going into the year, Frondell was seen as one of the top prospects in the class. He had a great D-1 with stellar production in the Swedish J20 as a 16 year old. Unfortunately his spring last year as well as his fall got ruined by injuries, which led to his draft stock tanking in the public eye but not so much among scouts (he was five in January in Makenzie’s ranking). After finally coming back from injury he was excellent. Frondell finished the season with the highest producing rate of an U18 player in Hockeyallsvenskan of all time, beating out William Nylander and David Pastrnak. He also did this while playing third line minutes. Frondell acctually had the highest points per 60 minutes among all players in the entire league. For reference, Hockeyallsvenskan is a top 10 league on the planet and he did this as a 17 year old.

So outside of his production, what is it that makes Frondell’s game so appealing? Frondell is measured at 6ft (think that this will be adjusted til at least 6’1) but he plays like he’s 6’5. The kid is bullying grown men with his strong frame and fearless mentality, which is something that surely will transfer to the NHL. Frondell also has an elite shot and he’s really good at finding open lanes so that he can use it.

One fair criticism of Frondell is his transitional game, in which he often refers to his linemates. I don’t think he’s ever going to be an elite transitional player but it’s worth noting that he’s not horrible at it, he just knows his linemates (often Victor Eklund) excels at it more and therefore he lets him transport the puck to the offensive zone. It’s from the blue line and onwards where Frondell is in his habitat and where he can do it all. As I said, his shot and physical play is his best qualities but his IQ is really good as well.

Reason #4: The other options - This is just not about how good Frondell is, it’s also about the other options and why I don’t think they are as likely to be picked.

Porter Martone - Has an interesting profile but his production regressed throughout the year and his skating isn’t the best, which is something this front offices values. He is also one of the oldest players in the draft.

James Hagens - Personally I have Hagens above Frondell but Hagens is a small (maybe but not guaranteed) center and we have a few of those already. Therefore and combined with his mediocre season he won’t be the pick.

Caleb Desnoyers - Is similar to Frondell in how he competes but isn’t the best skater. I kind of thought that he would be an option but then Peters and Pronman talked about how high scouts view Frondell and it seems like it’s consensus that he’s ahead of Desnoyers.

They are all great players but based on what I think Davidson wants Frondell seems more like that player.

With this said, I’m pretty sure that Anton Frondell will be the pick (if Misa is not available, he seems like everything KD wants in a hockey player).
Top 2025 NHL Draft prospect Anton Frondell is set to undergo knee surgery, shares Djugardens IF insider Robin Fredriksson. No timeline for a return has been revealed. It’s Frondell’s second major lower-body injury in as many years.

I cannot find the nature and extent of the injuries. We don't
need another Tuomo Ruutu.
 
Starting to think if Misa is unavailable, the favorite to be a Hawk is Anton Frondell. I heard Jason Bukala talking on a podcast about how it’d be between Misa and Frondell for him at #2.

His lean is Misa and he said there must have been some injury Frondell's been dealing with in the playoffs. That’s going to be a huge factor the Hawks staff will have to check on.

Bukala also mentioned the prospect Alexander Zharovsky as a sneaky 1st round player. Zharovsky has some pretty sick mitts and the Hawks Russian scout has been pretty good at identifying talent in Russia. Ya’ll should take a look at him for the Leafs/Hawks 2nd pick.
 

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