2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

[eklund2chicago]

Frondell played Center for Sweden at the U18s.

Bad news though, 3 points in 5 games is very underwhelming for a tournament where you're the max age. It's not "everything" but it's also not nothing...

Hagens literally broke records there last year and was 1st line Center PPG+ on the U20 champions this year... Hagens is "late 06" but they're still same draft year and only like 6 real months apart. Martone was also a monster at last year's U18.

Yeah I have Hagens ahead both of Frondell and Martone. What I’m questioning is the glazing of Porter Martone.

And yes, Martone was great at the last u18. He also played with McKenna, whatever’s that’s worth. Frondell wasn’t great at the U18 this year but the guy played super important playoff games for a structured team just before. It’s not easy to right away adapt to u18 hockey. I agree that his performance was underwhelming but what he has done in Hockeyallsvenskan this year is historical and five mediocre games while being jet lagged doesn’t make him a worse player.

 

[Mjul Qvist]

Bad news though, 3 points in 5 games is very underwhelming for a tournament where you're the max age. It's not "everything" but it's also not nothing...

He didn´t have the ideal preparation to that tournament. Straight from Allsvenskan´s finals and literally from plane to play his first game and little time to practice with the team. There might have been some fatigue issues also affecting his performance. Sure his showing was disappointing but it wasn´t that bad either. He would´ve played in last year U18´s also if he wasn´t injured. Which brings us to the fact that now he can have healthy summer to train. That is encouraging thing for his development.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Yeah I have Hagens ahead both of Frondell and Martone. What I’m questioning is the glazing of Porter Martone.

And yes, Martone was great at the last u18. He also played with McKenna, whatever’s that’s worth.

If hawks draft Martone people say “yeah but he leeches off Bedard” I’m chill with that.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Future Blackhawk Porter Martone pots one against Hungary.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

If hawks draft Martone people say “yeah but he leeches off Bedard” I’m chill with that.

I like when the talent leaches off each other to multiple Stanley cups.

 

[Mjul Qvist]

He also played with McKenna, whatever’s that’s worth.

Yeah but McKenna probably benefited from playing with Martone also.

 

[WarriorofTime]

He didn´t have the ideal preparation to that tournament. Straight from Allsvenskan´s finals and literally from plane to play his first game and little time to practice with the team. There might have been some fatigue issues also affecting his performance. Sure his showing was disappointing but it wasn´t that bad either. He would´ve played in last year U18´s also if he wasn´t injured. Which brings us to the fact that now he can have healthy summer to train. That is encouraging thing for his development.

Fatigue yeah I get that, but he's played with that Swedish 07 age group team for three years.

 

[u2wojo]

Yeah I have Hagens ahead both of Frondell and Martone. What I’m questioning is the glazing of Porter Martone.

And yes, Martone was great at the last u18. He also played with McKenna, whatever’s that’s worth. Frondell wasn’t great at the U18 this year but the guy played super important playoff games for a structured team just before. It’s not easy to right away adapt to u18 hockey. I agree that his performance was underwhelming but what he has done in Hockeyallsvenskan this year is historical and five mediocre games while being jet lagged doesn’t make him a worse player.

I agree somewhat on Hagens may be the (slightly) better prospect, but he just gives us more of what we already got....5'10-5'11 180-190lbs and maybe not a C at the NHL level in the long run. At some point, the recipe for success needs different ingredients. Unless there is a significant difference in the quality of the prospect, I would lean toward Martone or Desnoyers for a guy that can be the complemntary piece to the little guys as a W or a 2C when if Bedard/Nazar end up at W over Hagens. I wouldn't hate Hagens as our pick if our scouts go that way as we can get C or size elsewhere, but I will like Martone, Misa, or even Desnoyers if that is where we end up.

 

[BHawk21]

NYI: Matthew Schaefer
SJS: Porter Martone
CHI: Michael Misa
UTH: Anton Frondell
NAS: James Hagens
PHI: Caleb Desnoyers
BOS: Jackson Smith
SEA: Roger Mcqueen
BUF: Brady Martin
ANA: Jake OBrien
PIT: Victor Eklund

 

[Muffinalt]

Yeah I have Hagens ahead both of Frondell and Martone. What I’m questioning is the glazing of Porter Martone.

And yes, Martone was great at the last u18. He also played with McKenna, whatever’s that’s worth. Frondell wasn’t great at the U18 this year but the guy played super important playoff games for a structured team just before. It’s not easy to right away adapt to u18 hockey. I agree that his performance was underwhelming but what he has done in Hockeyallsvenskan this year is historical and five mediocre games while being jet lagged doesn’t make him a worse player.

I don't really base much personally on his u18, it's such a small sample (and lol at the elite prospects comment).

For me it's about his whole year, production was impressive but when I see the tools and what's behind it I'm not that intrigued they will translate to the same high level.

For what it's worth, in also not that high on Martone because I think pace is something you can only teach so far, it's more innate whether you have it or not.

 

[Mjul Qvist]

Fatigue yeah I get that, but he's played with that Swedish 07 age group team for three years.

Sure but for example Konsta Helenius had problems adjusting at U18´s last year when he joined Finland´s team after playing very well whole season in Liiga (Finnish top league). Didn´t score a goal in five games there.

 

[Putt Pirate]

Listening to Leboff on Sirius, he thinks the Isle will trade down and pick Hagens. That his family is pumped about the opportunity, etc. so it will be an interesting draft!

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Martone also has an assist today. He’s only on the practice roster as of right now, but I wonder if he gets upgraded? He’s having a real nice game.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Martone also has an assist today. He’s only on the practice roster as of right now, but I wonder if he gets upgraded? He’s having a real nice game.

Last year they sent Celebrini and Fantilli home after the pre-tournament stuff, so we'll see, they'll probably give spots to veterans.

 

[Chuck Testa]

NYI: Matthew Schaefer
SJS: Porter Martone
CHI: Michael Misa
UTH: Anton Fronell
NAS: James Hagens
PHI: Caleb Desnoyers
BOS: Jackson Smith
SEA: Roger Mcqueen
BUF: Brady Martin
ANA: Jake OBrien
PIT: Victor Eklund

Sign me up for nabbing Misa with the 3rd overall pick.

If I was KD I would run up on stage, clothesline Bettman and make that pick. I would be f***ing ecstatic if Misa is there at 3.

Martone looked wayyyyyyy too slow at the WJHC.

 

[featherhawk]

If we have Misa at 3 well then we are making out like Bandits...

Would not suprise me to see the NYI trade down for the local boy hagens however it would have to be a pretty good sweetener to be honest...

Perhaps Mike Greer pulls the trigger on a trade that is too good to pass up?

 

[x Tame Impala]

Aren't the Islanders filled out at LD? There's a non-zero chance they do something weird and pass on Schaefer. Doubtful but not completely unimaginable

This might be the year to trade down if your target is lower. There doesn't seem to be a clear choice between Hagens, Martone, Frondell, Desnoyers, Misa. I think you could land 3-6 and get the player that you want which would make the trade worth it

I think you can make that argument in most/all years where there isn't a consensus at where you're drafting. It hardly happens for a reason. Straight out of KD's mouth, it seems Martone, Desnoyers, Frondell are all in a similar "bucket". That doesn't mean trade down, it just means spend the rest of the post season doing your homework

 

[kmwtrucks]

If we have Misa at 3 well then we are making out like Bandits...

Would not suprise me to see the NYI trade down for the local boy hagens however it would have to be a pretty good sweetener to be honest...

Perhaps Mike Greer pulls the trigger on a trade that is too good to pass up?

I can see how you trade from 1 to 2 to take Hagen's at 2 but what if they traded to 3 or 4 and hagens goes 2 or 3 you would look pretty bad. yesterday I thought it was 10% chance we end up with Misa it feels like it might be higher then that now. there is also talk that MISA is kind of redundant for SJ with celbrini and Smith and that Martone might make more sense?

 

[eklund2chicago]

For anyone that wants to dig in deeper on the top prospects I recommend this guy and his scouting reports. He really goes in depth and shows more than just the goals and assists.

 

[x Tame Impala]

I can see how you trade from 1 to 2 to take Hagen's at 2 but what if they traded to 3 or 4 and hagens goes 2 or 3 you would look pretty bad. yesterday I thought it was 10% chance we end up with Misa it feels like it might be higher then that now. there is also talk that MISA is kind of redundant for SJ with celbrini and Smith and that Martone might make more sense?

San Jose isn’t taking Hagens.

What would be a fair package to NYI? 3rd + TOR 1st? I wouldn’t do 3rd + Korchinski, personally.

 

[Muffinalt]

For anyone that wants to dig in deeper on the top prospects I recommend this guy and his scouting reports. He really goes in depth and shows more than just the goals and assists.

He's my favorite too, highly recommend.

Aren't the Islanders filled out at LD? There's a non-zero chance they do something weird and pass on Schaefer. Doubtful but not completely unimaginable

What if the Isles take Misa lol? Actual worst outcome.

 

[Muffinalt]

San Jose isn’t taking Hagens.

What would be a fair package to NYI? 3rd + TOR 1st? I wouldn’t do 3rd + Korchinski, personally.

I think it would have to be Korch involved, but if they're really fine with one of the lesser prospects and don't see much separation, I could see some smaller asset.

I think just because someone is a hometown boy, won't make any team select him over BPA. How many passes like that have we seen already?

 

[Hawkaholic]

For me at this time, the pick at 3OA comes down to one of three prospects, Martone, Desnoyers or O’Brien.

Not even in the conversation.

 

[hawksfan50]

Look...in the first few months of the 24/25 season we alk had Martonecgoibg either #1or#2 with Hagens..

Hagens dod not perform to expectation at Boston College...ok for a freshman but Not anything close to how Celebrini starred and doninatedas a freshman for Boston U in his draft year.


Only 9 goalscand only a pointva gMe despite pkayong with Leonard and Perraukt for mich of thecseason and onthe #1team in college hockey over the regular schedule before getting upset in their attempt to win the NCAA championship..

Martone dropped...on some lists as farzas#6 because if a bad slump from mod-jabuary to late February where his scoring pace lagged while Michael Misa went red horror January tgdough till his fibal 6 games and pkayoffs..I suspect at the end Misa got banged up ...over his ladt 16 games ..

But My way Misa soared I the bulk of the 2nd half...Martone went poorly forc5 or 6 weeks But after this slump he picked up his pace again ...finished string.
Now Martine has sone flaws...mainly in terms of soeed..moves ok for a big guy but not elite skater...But far more an issue is his defensive game which can lose focus at times and his work level which can lax at times..not consistent..plus sone scoutibgvreoirts say he has problems defending good cycling teams on hiscdzzone.

Let us say heviscgood offebsiveky when "on" bit a bit problematic for defensivevrekiabikity

He does bring skill and physicality. The size and strength you want from a powrr forward.Tge sjik is goid

Update..if you were not aware.. He and Zayne Parekh were invited to join Team CNada for pre-WHC exhibition games.

In a game cs Hungary Canada win 6-0 ...Oarekh gotcha Nd Martobe 1g +1a..
But caution...onlyvHingary.

Canada so far filled 15 roster slots with NHL players...butcadditionsxfrom playoffs were excited.. so do not knowvi tgec2cjunuors Williston for tge actually WHC games or their spits be filled by eliminated NHL players..

Still Nartone remains in consideration for KD at #3..I f we wants a pure wobger..
If he wants a prospectcfor Center or who can pkay any forward slit then Drsnoyers.JAKE o'Brien or Brady Martin could be the apple of KD's eye.

Not Hagens...not Frondell...neither likely to be NHL centers And both bas fits..Frondell lacks speed and Hagens too small. We have plenty of snalk sjiked forwards do not need anotger one..especialky if he is so far off what Celebrini did as freshman ..

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Aren't the Islanders filled out at LD? There's a non-zero chance they do something weird and pass on Schaefer. Doubtful but not completely unimaginable

Not really

They have on LD

- Romanov who is RFA (He is 26 yrs old)
- Pelech signed for 3 more years at $5.75M (Will be 31 this offseason)
- Reilly is UFA (Will be 32 in offseason)
- Perunovich is RFA (Will be 27 in offseason)

Isles are one of the rare teams stronger on RD than LD

Isles RD

Pulock
Dobson (RFA)
Mayfield
DeAngelo (UFA)