2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

Competitiveness, pace, and skating are non-negotiable traits for Davidson. We'll see which player is the best fit.
They went into last draft saying they may not only go for the same traits as they had before.

And Davidson just stated basically that again. That they might consider what they have and don't have of their prospect ranks are pretty equal overall
 
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They went into last draft saying they may not only go for the same traits as they had before.

And Davidson just stated basically that again. That they might consider what they have and don't have of their prospect ranks are pretty equal overall
Sounds like someone who realized it was dumb to exclusively draft for speed and forget about everything else

Probably a lesson learned from Cristall

Bet the scouting staff dunks on him for picking Gajan
 
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Back tobdoscussibg Desnoyers...He is bei g used a kit at wing this season inMoncton...I think he is the best defebsive forward in the drFt ..So I think he also prphectsxas a 2C ...But he coukdcremain on tge wing as a oro too..At 6'2 172 he will need to add mass to his frame... so I think he needs either this summer to add that extra mass or another seadon back in jrs to do it before playing agaibst men...still his defensive acumen coukd mean he is already NHL capable now?

Usually tge defebsive game is tge thing most juniors have got to develop before NHL coaches trust them..do not need to worry about those instincts ...Denoyers could be a future Selle winner...but he has goid offebse too.. He also is goid in the dot..but dod not take the amount t of draws to the same high quantity as say Misa did..So I think Moncto may be using him only for his strong side draws...not for all draws when ge uscon shift.So I am not certain his gaceoff % woukd be as goid if he had to take day double the amount of draws he attempted..
But Cebters have greater deceive responsibility and tgatvus why he should project at least to a goid 2C..

If Hawks take honat #3...do they move Nazar to wi g or move Bedard to wing.

As we found out,Nazar and Brdard work better playong on different lines...together it is too snalk avlibe ...does nit work at 5x5..

So Denoywrs coukd be a 2C or a 1C if Bedard moves to wing and pkays with him.. Drsnoyers woukd be the drfebsive help Bedard nerds in thecd-zone.

If Nazar stays at C...then Drsnoyers coukd be a winger option for him..

I think the same options hold for Brady Martin if Hawks select him...He has kept rising all season..After what he showed scoutsxat u18s , this is the type of player you want to go to war with on your team.
His was only 4 goals less than Porter Martone this season.. but less assists(Martin had 38a to 61 for Martone. .Martin had a better +/- ( +25 vs+ 19)...Martone is bigger = 6'3 207vs Martin at 6'0 178..but Martin pkays bigger than hiscsize..I think he has the body frame to add mass...Martin is actualky morevohysicak and tge best hitter in theventire draft plus a better conoete and consistent work ethic than Martobe.

Martin pklyed for tge Soo who finished 7th in their Cobferenxe.. Brampton finished 8th in their Cobference ..

But I think Martine played with morevoffrnsivectakentvon hisvkibe than what Martin had to work with.

Anyway I think the Hawks should be considering 3 to 4 options for #3...not sure how to order them all..

.Drsnoyers
.Martin
.Marti e
And finally if they bet on upside still to cobe ,Jake O'Brien who pkayed only a 2C role with Brantford(though used akk situations including tge PP ( and who at 6'2 172) needs to add mass to his frame but with a June birthdate before he turns 18 has a long runway..Will not be NHL ready now..Sane for Desnoyers...needs to add to his frame too.

Maybe Martin can play now because he pkays bigger than his weight and is very strong on his skates. Bounces off hits but sends players down hen he hits them. ALREADUBPKAYSXa tough man's game!

I think tgsexarecthec4cgiys Hawks shoukd consider

Frobdell blewbitcatvu18s.. underwhelming g...loked Slow..does not transport puck fron d-zobevto i-zobe..To me got too easily stopped by Dnen...esoecialky by Canadian dmen I tge Ford Medal gane donibated by Canada.
Frobdelk did not pass my eye test nor the production test.
BTW...2g 1a for Martin I tge Gold Medallion game .. Recall Martin also 2 g1a at tge OHL Top Prospects Game ...

Finally Hanes Hagens= No Way..bad fit forcthe Hawks...Another smalk but skikkex guy..we already have kits of that..Many scouts say he will not be able to handle big NGK cebters down low..If he makes it as a top siz pro it probably mist be as a wibger only. Hexdoes bckcjeck but can getvoverpiwered and tgerevis hesitation to engage physicalky=red flags. AVOID!!!Not what we need..

So in my view we consider only 4voptoobs for #3..Drsnoyers,Martin,Martibe or if a bet on runway upside O'Brien ..

You wibder if Marone can improve more or has reached his ceiling g for what he is and will be.
You know how goid Desnoyers and Martin are ...mayvexa lesser celing but still very foid and inpactful to top six success.
Yo know Martin coukd also energize ax3rd libe into successful given that role.
Because Drsnoyers and Martin are so goid 2 ways defensiveky,you can trust them to help tge team..I think O'Brien might have highest ceiling of all of them producrionwise and also is considered goid defebsiveky.
Maybe Martine if he can be coached to improve his defensive side coukd be pro-ready to insert.
So KD has sone goidcootoons..

I am hapoy with any of thse 4..but if he takes Hagebs hevus stupid..If he takes Frondell ,it goes agaibst his skating priority..I just do not see them as goidcfits.
 
Hawks would be fine with Frondell, Desnoyers or Hagens. Why not drop down if its an available option?

PHI - 3rd for 6th and 24th
NSH - 3rd for 5th and 26th

The person who benefits the most from the 3rd pick is KK, he was in just about every trade offer if Hawks landed Schafer.
 
NYI: Matthew Schaefer
SJS: Porter Martone
CHI: Michael Misa
UTH: Radim Mrtka
NAS: Anton Frondell
PHI: James Hagens
BOS: Caleb Desnoyers
SEA: Jackson Smith
BUF: Brady Martin
ANA: Jake OBrien
PIT: Victor Eklund
NYR: Kashawn Aitcheson
DET: Roger McQueen

*Islanders: BPA
*Sharks: I really think the Sharks are going to consider Martone. More supporting cast for the Celebrini line
*Blackhawks: Misa o Martone
*Utah: They've already opted out of the consensus in the past. NEED D. They already have Cooley, Hagens is the same
*Frondell: elite shoot. The best player in this class playing on the boards. The biggest red flag? inconsistent.
*Flyers: Hagens 2025, Mckenna 2026. Congratulations
*Bruins: Desnoyers. Best two way value, high compete, future captain. Bruin culture
*Kraken: Defense no matter what
*Sabres: Brady Martin, autopick. Aura
*Ducks: I couldn't think of a better fit for Veerbek. Size and potential are through the roof.
*Penguins: hope for the Penguins
*Rangers: hit defence. A winger can't be ruled out. It's the wing organization after all (Panarin, Kreider, Lafreniere, Kakko, Andersson, Kravtsov, Perreault...)
*Red Wings: Yzerman Swing, McQueen.
 
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Hawks would be fine with Frondell, Desnoyers or Hagens. Why not drop down if its an available option?

PHI - 3rd for 6th and 24th
NSH - 3rd for 5th and 26th

The person who benefits the most from the 3rd pick is KK, he was in just about every trade offer if Hawks landed Schafer.
Because late round picks have a lot less value. A late first wouldn't be worth that drop to me. We suffered all season long being in the gutter, I don't want to trade that shitty season for a pick out of the top 3
 
So Hawks picks are getting clearer…

Round 1…3
Round 1…25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32(Tor)
Round 2…34
Round 2…57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64(Dal)
Round 3…66
Round 4…98
Round 4…107(NYR)
Round 6…162
Round 7…194

Hoping for Leafs pick to be 25 and Stars to be 62, in order for the Leafs pick to be 25 they have to lose to Florida, Dallas has to beat Winnipeg, Edmonton has to beat Vegas and Carolina has to beat Washington…then Dallas has to lose to Edmonton to get 62
 
Hawks would be fine with Frondell, Desnoyers or Hagens. Why not drop down if its an available option?

PHI - 3rd for 6th and 24th
NSH - 3rd for 5th and 26th

The person who benefits the most from the 3rd pick is KK, he was in just about every trade offer if Hawks landed Schafer.
IMO, Hawks have a boatload of depth in the pipeline, and I'm not willing to downgrade the upside of Martone/Misa for a late 1st, even if we get a Des/Hagens/Frondel.
 
So Hawks picks are getting clearer…

Round 1…3
Round 1…25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32(Tor)
Round 2…34
Round 2…57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64(Dal)
Round 3…66
Round 4…98
Round 4…107(NYR)
Round 6…162
Round 7…194

Hoping for Leafs pick to be 25 and Stars to be 62, in order for the Leafs pick to be 25 they have to lose to Florida, Dallas has to beat Winnipeg, Edmonton has to beat Vegas and Carolina has to beat Washington…then Dallas has to lose to Edmonton to get 62
Only the first round is affected by the playoffs. The Hawks pick #60 in the 2nd
 
So hoping something weird happens and Misa falls to us. Can't see the Isles passing on a franchise D and the Sharks MIGHT be a possibility to pass on Misa for Martone except for the whole having nice chemistry with Chernyshov already thing. Hoping the Isles yet to be hired GM would traded 1OA for 3OA to take the local kid and and an extra late 1st....but new GM's make a bigger splash selecting the best available rather than a local kid that opens up second guessing immediately.

Seems pretty straighforward where you take whichever of Martone/Misa fall to you with a chance you can talk me into Desnoyers.
 
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There is this possibility of a trade down scenario:

Hawks send #3 and#34 picks to PHI for #6 #24 and #25...then move #25 and#29 to move up again in round 1...Doescthis make sense..?

I mean IF Hagens (bad fit for Hawks .. wrong type.. too smalk for what we already havevin smalk skiked guys( is coveted by Flyers...or of they covet Frondell or Martine or even Desnoyers...we Still coukd get Brady Martin at #6 plus probably a pick in the teens plus pick #24 .. are there targeysci the teens andat#24 where this makes sense for us...
 
The Athletic was on the podcast today talking about a couple options for lottery teams. They mentioned the Hawks would ideally get Missa because he is a stylistic fit. They also said Martone would not fit that style. When talking about centers, they said Desnoyers is the guy most teams see as 100% a center at the NHL level
 
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The Hawks picking #3 could go any way with that pick…perfect candidate to trade down and acquire another asset…so I was looking at the 2026 draft, McKenna draft…nine 1st rounders have been traded already, all but one are top10ish protected…the only one not protected was FLAs which Chicago acquired in the SJones-SKnight trade(way to go Davidsons) so Chicago already has two chances at McKenna…so maybe if Chicago traded it’s #3 to say #7 or #8 and it’s 1st from Toronto this year for an ‘unprotected’ 1st in 2026…that would work…Boston maybe? Don Sweeney is desperate…

#3 and #25-32 to Boston for #7 and an unprotected 2026 1st?
 
Weird that there is so little chatter on here about Frondell, who is probably the most likely to be the pick (if Misa doesn’t fall).

Martone might be the sexier option but he is a winger, his production regressed severely under 2025 compared to the fall, he isn’t a great skater and he is old for the draft.
 
I think there may be some weird happenings for this draft since teams may be positioning for the next year or two. Martone, I get the size thing but he seems to be rather hit or miss on the GAF meter. I waffle back and forth but we shall see as the draft approaches. I am fine with Martone or Frondell as they both have warts.
 
Weird that there is so little chatter on here about Frondell, who is probably the most likely to be the pick (if Misa doesn’t fall).

Martone might be the sexier option but he is a winger, his production regressed severely under 2025 compared to the fall, he isn’t a great skater and he is old for the draft.
Frondell is also a winger imo.
 
I think there may be some weird happenings for this draft since teams may be positioning for the next year or two. Martone, I get the size thing but he seems to be rather hit or miss on the GAF meter. I waffle back and forth but we shall see as the draft approaches. I am fine with Martone or Frondell as they both have warts.

Yeah, I agree and think it's going to be an odd draft as well. Wouldn't surprise me to see NYI take Hagens, or if they do take Schaefer, also wouldn't surprise me to see SJ take Martone.

At what point at Schaefer's medicals concerning? NHL.com article said he had the surgery on 12/30/2024 and it was a 3 month recovery. We're now 4 full months since then and into month 5. What's going on there?
 
The Hawks picking #3 could go any way with that pick…perfect candidate to trade down and acquire another asset…so I was looking at the 2026 draft, McKenna draft…nine 1st rounders have been traded already, all but one are top10ish protected…the only one not protected was FLAs which Chicago acquired in the SJones-SKnight trade(way to go Davidsons) so Chicago already has two chances at McKenna…so maybe if Chicago traded it’s #3 to say #7 or #8 and it’s 1st from Toronto this year for an ‘unprotected’ 1st in 2026…that would work…Boston maybe? Don Sweeney is desperate…

#3 and #25-32 to Boston for #7 and an unprotected 2026 1st?
Why would Boston do that when they are going to remain bad next year lol
 
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