2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

For what it is worth saw we played at a 72 pt pace post trade deadline this year.

We aren’t finishing last San Jose is still bad Askarov is unproven

Boston is tearing it down

The pens are a year older and worse with Karlson to trade still

All 3 will be worse than us
Yeah, quite possible, also possible they dont.
 
Pronman has Desnoyers as a potential all-star/top of the lineup player. He has Frondell as a top of the lineup player.

Wheeler has Desnoyers and Frondell in the same tier as Martone and Hagens.

So either no one in this draft is going to end up being a 1st line caliber player outside of Misa or your projections for them is way off. I'm going to take the latter here.
ah yes how could I forget that Pronman and Wheeler are infallible??!?
 
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I sure as hell wouldn't

I don't know what Kyle would do
Agree it's not worth it for the Hawks to move down for a minor sweetener as the Hawks have plenty of depth.

I liked the NSH proposal that someone floated above around FF +4OA for 1st OA. I would only be happy for 2 potential elite assets in the deal. Don't want to move back for B prospect or another late 1st round DP.
 
Agree it's not worth it for the Hawks to move down for a minor sweetener as the Hawks have plenty of depth.

I liked the NSH proposal that someone floated above around FF +4OA for 1st OA. I would only be happy for 2 potential elite assets in the deal. Don't want to move back for B prospect or another late 1st round DP.
That proposal wasn't good.

Trading Schaefer for a 30 year old makes no sense.
 
Is Boston tearing it down? With McAvoy back next year they seem more like a retool candidate who is stuck in mediocrity at best.

Should have some decent cap space to spend, too.

I don’t think it’s a lock that Boston and Pittsburgh will be worse, but it’s also impossible to say before FA is done.
Even if they don’t tear it down Pasta Mac and Swayman isn’t going to be a competetive team. They will be bottom 5 whether they like it or not
 
That is absolutely awful for Hawks

Acquire soon to be 31 yr old Forsberg and give up a 1st round pick while passing on Schaefer would be fireable offense
The OP brought up an article about trading down potentially if they get the 1st pick...what do you think they will trade down for if not a ppg forward as well as other assets? I'm not suggesting they trade down, I'm guessing at what type of deal they'd try to pull off if they did, established top 6 forward with term, trade back a few spots and take one of the 3 forwards they are likely keyed in on

as I already said, Fraser more or less said in the post-game that Schaefer is #1 on their board and what position they pick will be determined by the lottery
 
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The OP brought up an article about trading down potentially if they get the 1st pick...what do you think they will trade down for if not a ppg forward as well as other assets? I'm not suggesting they trade down, I'm guessing at what type of deal they'd try to pull off if they did, established top 6 forward with term, trade back a few spots and take one of the 3 forwards they are likely keyed in on

as I already said, Fraser more or less said in the post-game that Schaefer is #1 on their board and what position they pick will be determined by the lottery
if they traded down from 1 (which they wouldn't), it'd be for a 1st line forward no older than 25
 
if they traded down from 1 (which they wouldn't), it'd be for a 1st line forward no older than 25
what team drafting in the top 5 has that though, Forsberg scored 74 pts in 81 games on a terrible team and had 94 last year, hes not some bum...5 years left on his deal, you potentially add Marner in UFA and Frondell/Hagens/Desnoyers/Martone with their pick at 4 and your top 6 should be fixed without doing anything dumb in free agency or trading a bunch of prospects and a future unprotected 1st...again it was an attempt to think through what a trade down would look like, I'd guess the ideal trade partner would be high enough in draft to stay in that forward tier they've been looking at and the team also has a legit top line forward with term that they wouldn't mind moving because they want to start over

I've been team take Schaefer and tank again but if KD is committed to finding immediate top 6 forwards I prefer the plan above versus giving 2 of Bennett, Nelson, Ehlers or Boeser 7 years at 8-9m per with full NMCs
 
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what team in the top 5 has that though, Forsberg scored 74 pts in 81 games on a terrible team and had 94 last year, hes not some bum...5 years left on his deal, you potentially add Marner in UFA and Frondell/Hagens/Desnoyers/Martone with their pick at 4 and your top 6 should be fixed without doing anything dumb in free agency or trading a bunch of prospects and a future unprotected 1st...again it was an attempt to think through what a trade down would look like, I'd guess the ideal trade partner would be high enough in draft to stay in that forward tier they've been looking at and the team also has a legit top line forward with term that they wouldn't mind moving because they want to start over

I've been team take Schaefer and tank for McKenna but if KD is committed to finding top 6 forwards I prefer the plan above versus giving 2 of Bennett, Nelson, Ehlers or Boeser 7 years at 8-9m per with full NMCs
I'm not sure why you're hung up on moving back down in the top 5.

In a hypothetical where you trade 1st overall, a 2025 1st doesn't even need to come back, let alone one in the top 5.
 
I'm not sure why you're hung up on moving back down in the top 5.

In a hypothetical where you trade 1st overall, a 2025 1st doesn't even need to come back, let alone one in the top 5.
It doesn't but its more likely, first thought after reading the OP post about the idea of a trade down was the Bears/Carolina trade where Bears got DJ Moore plus moved back plus an got unprotected first and some 2nds, in this scenario Moore is your established top 6 forward that can immediately fill a need, if you can get an unprotected first from a team thats potentially terrible next year too then great or even swap their 26 1st with Florida's 1st, and ideally you trade back a few spots and still get an impact player in this draft that you were already looking at
 
This is random but Desnoyers does not look 6'2 to me at all

I don't understand top 5 hype for him tbh. What separates him and Brady Martin for example? I think not that much, yet one is projected at 15ish+, the other is top 5.

I love Desnoyers type all heart forwards but not top 5. I think it would be a Kontaniemi, PLD, Hayton situation.
 
I've watched a couple Moncton games this past week to get a first hand view of Desnoyers and I see his offensive skills but I also don't see him for what seems like long stretches in the game - he kind of disappears. It is a very short sample size but it gives me pause to consider taking him in the top-5. If I compare him to O'Brien who I have seen dozens of times because I watched a lot of Brantford games watching Lardis and Vanacker - O'Brien is much more active and noticeable during games than Desnoyers is. Another odd thing is that Desnoyers is listed as a center and he is often driving the offense in the center of the ice - but he doesn't take faceoffs - at least not when I've been watching - the winger on his line takes the faceoffs.
 
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I don't understand top 5 hype for him tbh. What separates him and Brady Martin for example?

I love Desnoyers type all heart forwards but not top 5. I think it would be a Kontaniemi, PLD, Hayton situation.
Skill, significantly higher offensive IQ, and about 2 inches of height. Also, if PLD had Desnoyers' motor he would be an amazing player.

I've watched a couple Moncton games this past week to get a first hand view of Desnoyers and I see his offensive skills but I also don't see him for what seems like long stretches in the game - he kind of disappears. It is a very short sample size but it gives me pause to consider taking him in the top-5. If I compare him to O'Brien who I have seen dozens of times because I watched a lot of Brantford games watching Lardis and Vanacker - O'Brien is much more active and noticeable during games than Desnoyers is. Another odd thing is that Desnoyers is listed as a center and he is often driving the offense in the center of the ice - but he doesn't take faceoffs - at least not when I've been watching - the winger on his line takes the faceoffs.
I disagree about Desnoyers disappearing but that could just come down to viewings so not worth disputing much. I like O'Brien a lot too but I actually think he tends to get lost in the shuffle at even strength much more than Desnoyers, which might be a product of playing on a stacked team with some older players. He makes a lot of aesthetically pleasing plays but he can also be pretty inefficient with possession. I wouldn't be surprised if some teams have a top 5 grade on him in this draft though and the Blackhawks will certainly have seen a lot of him
 
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Misa or Hagens this year, and a top forward next year. With the other two first round picks
turning into productive players. Hit on three of the five second round picks we have in
the next two years...and we are off to the races.

By the way...does anybody have a top five/seven for 2026...
 

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