2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

[Hull2Roenick2Kane]

good to see Vlasic and Murph getting comps. That Nesbitt comp makes me want him now.

 

[Kevin Musto]

if the Hawks board is Schaefer > Misa > Frondell > Desnoyers (as Powers insinuates)

that wouldn't surprise me, given what they typically like

we know they won't like Martone, I'd wager Hagens' lack of improvement has left them unimpressed, and they'll stay away from McQueen given the injuries

so I think that checks out

furthest Chicago can drop is #4, so we don't even need to speculate further beyond those names

 

[Hull2Roenick2Kane]

if the Hawks board is Schaefer > Misa > Frondell > Desnoyers (as Powers insinuates)

that wouldn't surprise me, given what they typically like

we know they won't like Martone, I'd wager Hagens' lack of improvement has left them unimpressed, and they'll stay away from McQueen given the injuries

so I think that checks out

furthest Chicago can drop is #4, so we don't even need to speculate further beyond those names

do you see Kyle drafting Desnoyers at 4? at this point it seems trading down to 6 or 7(Philadelphia seems best partner) might get the job done and adding capital.

 

[Kevin Musto]

do you see Kyle drafting Desnoyers at 4? at this point it seems trading down to 6 or 7 might get the job done and adding capital.

I sure as hell wouldn't

I don't know what Kyle would do

 

[statswatcher]

I sure as hell wouldn't

I don't know what Kyle would do

he's taking sam dickinson, book it.

 

[Cashman]

do you see Kyle drafting Desnoyers at 4? at this point it seems trading down to 6 or 7(Philadelphia seems best partner) might get the job done and adding capital.

What would be the point of trading down? We really do not need more draft picks unless they are future 1st rd picks.

 

[Hull2Roenick2Kane]

What would be the point of trading down? We really do not need more draft picks unless they are future 1st rd picks.

agreed. Im just trying to rationalize a way for them to pick Desnoyers if he is their 4th on their board and the previous 3 are taken.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I will say, Frondell and Desnoyers are just role players (middle six upside)

If Schaefer and Misa are off the board when the Hawks pick, and those two are next on their list, they should trade the pick for a young forward talent

 

[TheFridge]

I will say, Frondell and Desnoyers are just role players (middle six upside)

If Schaefer and Misa are off the board when the Hawks pick, and those two are next on their list, they should trade the pick for a young forward talent

Just to clarify, you think 2nd line forwards are "role players"?

 

[ColbyChaos]

Any notable movement in the rankings?

 

[ColbyChaos]

Question about the 2026 Draft lottery. If we move up this year (win), but finish dead last next year, can we still get 1st overall? Or does that automatically mean that we would at best have the 2nd overall pick?

Yes if we jump this draft but somehow finish last in the 2026 season we can get McKenna

 

[ColbyChaos]

For what it is worth saw we played at a 72 pt pace post trade deadline this year.

We aren’t finishing last San Jose is still bad Askarov is unproven

Boston is tearing it down

The pens are a year older and worse with Karlson to trade still

All 3 will be worse than us

 

[bwanajamba]

For anyone wondering the consensus is more like Frondell and Desnoyers have middle six floors and significantly higher upside. Maybe not strictly as high as Hagens or Martone but they are not seen as role players.

If they do pick Desnoyers people will melt down on here (bold prediction I know) but will end up absolutely loving the kid

 

[Kevin Musto]

Just to clarify, you think 2nd line forwards are "role players"?

if you're betting on them hitting their ceilings, no

I'm being more realistic and projecting them as 3rd liners, which count as role players

 

[TheFridge]

For what it is worth saw we played at a 72 pt pace post trade deadline this year.

We aren’t finishing last San Jose is still bad Askarov is unproven

Boston is tearing it down

The pens are a year older and worse with Karlson to trade still

All 3 will be worse than us

Next year

 

[TheFridge]

if you're betting on them hitting their ceilings, no

I'm being more realistic and projecting them as 3rd liners, which count as role players

If they were realistically projected as 3rd liners, they wouldn't be consensus top-6/7 picks. Obviously guys picked that high could end up 3rd liners, but that's not the projection at the moment for either of them.

 

[Kevin Musto]

If they were realistically projected as 3rd liners, they wouldn't be consensus top-6/7 picks. Obviously guys picked that high could end up 3rd liners, but that's not the projection at the moment for either of them.

It's a weak draft year.

You're getting 3rd liners in the top 10.

 

[TheFridge]

It's a weak draft year.

You're getting 3rd liners in the top 10.

You can say that. Neither of those guys are projected to be third liners.

 

[Kevin Musto]

You can say that. Neither of those guys are projected to be third liners.

They're being projected as 2nd liners.

I'm saying they could fall short of their projections. It's a common occurrence.

The main point being is why make a pick on a guy who is maybe going to be a 2nd liner? Move the pick for someone who is already a 2nd liner, or someone who could maybe be a 1st liner.

 

[TheFridge]

They're being projected as 2nd liners.

I'm saying they could fall short of their projections. It's a common occurrence.

The main point being is why make a pick on a guy who is maybe going to be a 2nd liner? Move the pick for someone who is already a 2nd liner, or someone who could maybe be a 1st liner.

Pronman has Desnoyers as a potential all-star/top of the lineup player. He has Frondell as a top of the lineup player.

Wheeler has Desnoyers and Frondell in the same tier as Martone and Hagens.

So either no one in this draft is going to end up being a 1st line caliber player outside of Misa or your projections for them is way off. I'm going to take the latter here.

 

[Darkstar]

If Martone falls out of the top 4, there will be multiple threads on this site, wondering how the hell that happened, in a few years.

 

[Deputy McRizzy]

For what it is worth saw we played at a 72 pt pace post trade deadline this year.

We aren’t finishing last San Jose is still bad Askarov is unproven

Boston is tearing it down

The pens are a year older and worse with Karlson to trade still

All 3 will be worse than us

Is Boston tearing it down? With McAvoy back next year they seem more like a retool candidate who is stuck in mediocrity at best.

Should have some decent cap space to spend, too.

I don’t think it’s a lock that Boston and Pittsburgh will be worse, but it’s also impossible to say before FA is done.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Is Boston tearing it down? With McAvoy back next year they seem more like a retool candidate who is stuck in mediocrity at best.

All indications are they aren’t. Which is a big mistake. Because as Hawks fans, we all know once the magic is gone, you don’t get it back.

They’re going to sign a couple crappy overpaid free agents, make a bad trade, and trust their not so good kids, and wonder why they’re mediocre again next year.

 

[Deputy McRizzy]

All indications are they aren’t. Which is a big mistake. Because as Hawks fans, we all know once the magic is gone, you don’t get it back.

They’re going to sign a couple crappy overpaid free agents, make a bad trade, and trust their not so good kids, and wonder why they’re mediocre again next year.

Yeah, that’s about exactly what I would expect them to do tbh.

Good for the Hawks though because they should easily finish with more points assuming they go that route.

 

[TLEH]

Pronman has Desnoyers as a potential all-star/top of the lineup player. He has Frondell as a top of the lineup player.

Wheeler has Desnoyers and Frondell in the same tier as Martone and Hagens.

So either no one in this draft is going to end up being a 1st line caliber player outside of Misa or your projections for them is way off. I'm going to take the latter here.

Same guy who had Nazar what.. 14th best hawks prospect, had Vlasic as lucky to play games. After he already had shown something at the nhl level. He just has a platform. He isn’t any better than some of the better posters here. If anything he’s much worse.