2025 NHL DRAFT Thread
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I think the general thought is scafer goes 1 misa 2 hagen 3 then? I think its frondell has 17 pts in his last 10 games. which is a huge bump up from early in the year. he also is C that looks to be able to stay at Center. and is nearly 200lbs as a 17 year old. I know there was some concern with his skating but in the highlights I have watched he seems to move at least league AVG. Martone seems to be below league AVG. i think if we ended up with any of those 4 I would probably be ok with it.
Hawkaholic
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Yeah, I'm not so sure he does. Why would he do that when he can sign his ELC a year earlier, and potentially play in the NHL? If he's far too good for the CHL, then he shouldn't have any problem making our shit team. (or the Sharks)
Because making a shit NHL team and being overwhelmed (both adjusting indivdually himself and with mediocre teammates) is not necessarily the best development path. Playing 20-22 year old college players in the Big 10, Hockey East, or even the NCHC gets him playing older better competion, a structure where he has more time for building his body (only weekend games and most of the high end D1 programs have exceptional workout facilities/nutrition programs). Far better option then playing OHL again and we don;t need a repeat of Korchinski being tossed into the deepend (of the NHL since AHL is not an option) and then being surprised when he struggles.
Hawkaholic
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But Misa has to agree to go to College, and therefore not get to sign his ELC, and potentially play in the NHL. Its not just the Blackhawks decision, and frankly, they probably have little say in the matter what Misa wants to do.
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I'm sure the NCAA would frown upon being used as a work around for NHL-AHL rules. If there isn't a rule preventing that, there would be one very soon.
For sure it is a consulative decision between player, advisor, family, and the team that drafts him. I would hope "suggesting" college hockey for a year or 2 as his best development path would be well received...but yes the player can continue playing in the OHL. Nothing wrong with a prospect/advisor/family having a different opinoin....plenty of guys the Hawks have wanted to sign where the kid went back for another year of college and most don't end up as Kevin Hayes.
The whispers about Misa exploring college option have been around all season and those are not being driven by any NHL franshise for a player yet to be drafted.
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Guess there is no consensus at three and if there is it’s probably Hagens. I believe that Frondell will play himself into being three among a lot of people. He’s just becoming more and more dominant with every game he plays. He is bullying men out there in a top 10 league in the world.
I don’t really understand the low ceiling narrative. Average skater but elite at every other aspect of the game. I think he will become a poor man’s hybrid of Anze Kopitar and Leon Draisaitl.
bwana63
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the dickheads that run this site lost my post from ~6 this morning. ugh
and now it's back, lol
our cushion has bulged to 9 points now (was 4 last week). need to stay at #2. 2% may not seem like much, but the real difference is ~17% (between 2 & 3). really hope we pick 2nd, but the odds aren't in our favor. if we can't have Misa, I'm liking Frondell
and now it's back, lol
our cushion has bulged to 9 points now (was 4 last week). need to stay at #2. 2% may not seem like much, but the real difference is ~17% (between 2 & 3). really hope we pick 2nd, but the odds aren't in our favor. if we can't have Misa, I'm liking Frondell
he is 14 for his club and I think 16 when its the national team. for a 200 lb 17 year old i don't think his skating looks bad at all. I would love to hear other opinions.
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I'm glad that Frondell has picked it up over the last couple months. We are lacking in forwards prospects that have an elite hockey IQ. He would be welcomed and he's a Center.
It gives us another option if we drop a spot in the draft. (just don't drop 2 spots)
It gives us another option if we drop a spot in the draft. (just don't drop 2 spots)
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He's maybe 3rd for me in this draft, behind Schaefer and Misa. Hagens has had a down season, relative to expectations, and doesn't have the size that Frondell has so he's likely below Frondell for me right now.
Think Frondell is a better skater than Martone. Don't think either guy will be known for their transition games, but honestly, we're pretty loaded up front that way wise. We need to start getting some guys who can excel at the cycle game and from what I've seen of Frondell, I expect him to. He can play a hard, grinding style while also possessing clear top 6, potentially top line, skill.
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Looking up Frondell and wow I had no idea that Marcus Kruger was still playing high level hockey. Good for him.
I am taking Hagens before Frondell. Frondell has had several injury issues (multiple knee) and his "size advantage" is 6' verses 5'11. Hagens is 5th all time NTDP scoring which generally (not always) translates into productive NHL player) Point per game in college in your just turned 18 year old season and 8th in WJC scoring are pretty good indicators too.
For me it is Schafer, Misa, Hagens, Martone in that order.
Hopefully we end up at 1 or 2 and the decision is easy as I think Schafer is to good to pass at 1 and Misa is the obvious next best choice.
For me it is Schafer, Misa, Hagens, Martone in that order.
Hopefully we end up at 1 or 2 and the decision is easy as I think Schafer is to good to pass at 1 and Misa is the obvious next best choice.
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Powers literally just today released an article about Kruger still playing.
I asked powers if he talked to kruger about Frondell and eklund and he said he did and will put it in a article later.
eklund2chicago
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It’s fair to want Hagens ahead of Frondell (I’m torn myself) but you could use the stat argument for Frondell as well. He has the highest point per game for an U18 player Hockeyallsvenskan of all time. Higher than Pastrnak and Nylander. His D-1 points per game in the Swedish junior league is 6th all time for a 16 year old, ahead of Lucas Raymond and just behind Henrik Sedin. He may only be 6ft but he plays like he’s a few inches taller.
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This team has a worrying lack of high-level talent. IMO Hagens is the most obvious choice.
We better get Hagens, Misa, or Frondell before everything burns down.
Misa is a great individual talent but Hagens' style of play improves everything around him. Everyone can choose their favorite.
We better get Hagens, Misa, or Frondell before everything burns down.
Misa is a great individual talent but Hagens' style of play improves everything around him. Everyone can choose their favorite.
Just get me one of the 3 between Schaefer, Misa or Hagens and I will be happy. I still think the talent on Hagens is elite. I still stand by the fact that I thought he was the best player on Team USA for the World Juniors. If we end up 4th, I'm a little torn, I'm not a huge fan of Martone as I think he's just bullying smaller kids with his big body and he wont be able to do that when he moves up leagues. Frondell may be the choice at 4 for me at the moment. He does everything above average minus his skating, but I think the way he thinks the game will make up for the lack of foot speed.
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