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2025 NHL Draft Thread

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Chuck Testa said:
Finishing dead last guarantees you a top 3 pick.

So that would mean you’re guaranteed one of: Schaefer, Hagens or Martone. All of which the Hawks could really use.
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ploppsdman said:
If chicago picks first, I 100% trade the first overall to a team desperate for Schaefer. It would be very difficult to develop Lev, Korch, Rinzel, AND Schaefer.

OR, if Schaefer is the BPA and you keep the pick, you better have a D for F prospect trade lined up.
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Trade it for what/who?
 
ploppsdman said:
If chicago picks first, I 100% trade the first overall to a team desperate for Schaefer. It would be very difficult to develop Lev, Korch, Rinzel, AND Schaefer.

OR, if Schaefer is the BPA and you keep the pick, you better have a D for F prospect trade lined up.
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or make a signing of Marner or Rantanen
 
Misa > Hagens > Martone for me at this point. Wouldn't be bummed with any of them but more hope in Misa and Hagens to become elite players as opposed to very good ones
 
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There was a small fad of teams trading down a couple spots from the 1st overall in the NHL, but it hasn't happened in 22 years. Probably just take the BPA and call it a day.

Schaefer (07)-Levshunov (05)
Vlasic (01)-Rinzel (04)
Korchinski (04)-Crevier (01)
Allan (03)
Del Mastro (03)
Kaiser (02)

All the pieces are there in abundance to have an elite defense as long as you don't seriously mess up your asset management or get unlucky with development. By 2029-30 (which is sooner than you realize), you'd hope that's best defense in the league caliber.
 
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WarriorofTime said:
There was a small fad of teams trading down a couple spots from the 1st overall in the NHL, but it hasn't happened in 22 years. Probably just take the BPA and call it a day.

Schaefer (07)-Levshunov (05)
Vlasic (01)-Rinzel (04)
Korchinski (04)-Crevier (04)
Allan (03)
Del Mastro (03)
Kaiser (02)

All the pieces are there in abundance to have an elite defense as long as you don't seriously mess up your asset management or get unlucky with development. By 2029-30 (which is sooner than you realize), you'd hope that's best defense in the league caliber.
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Adding to, this will be the age of all the current top 50 scorers in the NHL by then

MacKinnon (34), Draisaitl (34), Kucherov (36), Rantanen (33), McDavid (32), Marner (32), Connor (33), Eichel (33), J. Hughes (28), Reinhart (34), Bratt (31), Scheifele (36), Kaprizov (32), Konecny (32), Necas (30), Makar (31), Hagel (31), Werenski (32), Crosby (42), Point (33), Marchenko (29), Hughes (30), Raymond (27), Strome (32), Pastrnak (33), Panarin (38), Nylander (33), Aho (32), Stutzle (27), Suzuki (30), Guentzel (35), Tavares (39), Monahan (35), Keller (31), Caufield (28), M. Tkachuk (32), Kopitar (42), Kempe (33), Bedard (24), Morrissey (34), Rakell (36), Kyrou (31), Vilardi (30), B. Tkachuk (30), Duchene (38), Rossi (28), Batherson (31), Stone (37), Barkov (34), Larkin (33)

Obviously some of those players will still be around and doing well in five years, but with how "prime heavy" that list looks right now, the NHL is also pretty ripe for a big flip over that time period. Hopefully Bedard is at the very least, highly up there by then, and that through a combo of drafting/free agents/trades/luck, with a clean cap, the Hawks can have a couple more of that next batch.
 
ploppsdman said:
If chicago picks first, I 100% trade the first overall to a team desperate for Schaefer. It would be very difficult to develop Lev, Korch, Rinzel, AND Schaefer.

OR, if Schaefer is the BPA and you keep the pick, you better have a D for F prospect trade lined up.
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OR you take the layup you have been handed and don't over think things and add a potential top pairing D to the prospect pool with Schaefer who sure looks like the BPA to me. There is no guarantee on propsects and a pretty good bet that despite pedigree and fan hopes, out of all of Lev, Korch, Rinzel, and Schaefer you would be lucky to only have one be a significant disappointment (if not an out right bust).

I mean if someone offered something ridiculous (unprotected '26 first or a top 20ish in hockey prospect that fits needs (forward with size)) to move down and still leave us in the top 3, I would obviously consider that....but that is not happeneing because the NHl is not the NFL draft where that sort of stuff happens to try to get the franchise QB
 
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Again, if we get Schaefer, Korchinski is gone. They both are similar types of players, but with MS having a higher floor/ceiling. There isn't room for both of them.

In that hypothetical, you give KK a year up here next season, with MS getting another year in the CHL, and then you start shopping KK around the 2026 deadline and if not then, try in the summer of 2026.

A defensive core of

Schaefer - Levshunov
Vlasic - Rinzel
Allan - Jones/Crevier

is plenty good. Hell, maybe best in the league a few years from now. A lot of size and skill on that backend.
 
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I'm willing to bet Schaefer is the clear #1 on Bobs upcoming list and we cannot afford to pass on the consensus #1 oa. You just can't. Even if you don't need a defenseman, there are very few lotteries a team can win and you don't take a worse player for sake of need.

2nd oa is a pretty big race. I was a huge fan of Martone, but he has not looked good against fast competition. I think right now for me it is;


Schaefer
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Hagens/Misa
Martone
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Desnoyers
Frondell
Mcqueen


Anyone of those 3 dark horses could push their draft stock at the end of the season into the top 3
 
GIADF said:
What don't you like about Misa?
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I wouldn't say there is much I don't like, I just prefer the other 3. It's hard to say bad things about a guy projected to go top 5. I just didn't like what I saw from him when the going got tough in the playoffs last year vs. London, he seemed to shy away from contact, didn't give it his all, and wasn't great in his own end. He didn't step up and performed worse than he did in the regular season by quite a bit. I may change my mind depending on how he does this year in the playoffs, but as of now I just like the other 3 much more.
 
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ploppsdman said:
If chicago picks first, I 100% trade the first overall to a team desperate for Schaefer. It would be very difficult to develop Lev, Korch, Rinzel, AND Schaefer.

OR, if Schaefer is the BPA and you keep the pick, you better have a D for F prospect trade lined up.
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So after all your complaining about our GM and rebuild, THAT is your idea of a good decision? GTFO dude.
 
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I wonder if you did trade 1 OA what kind of forward prospect you could get for it.

If San Jose offers you Will Smith and say a 2nd rounder (so early 30s pick) for it, who says no?
 
I also dont get why you'd trade Korchinksi. Having 4-6 stud dman would be phenomenal. We wouldn't have to worry about our Dcore for 10 years. Play them all 18ish minutes a night for all I care.
 
No young Hawk DMan has any trade restriction until Vlasic gets to 2028-29 (which is only a 10-team no trade list). You'd have some interim decisions for depth players of whom to have on roster/give 2nd contracts to, but you wouldn't need to make any huge decisions for another three years.

You probably play Korchinski up all next season. Bridge him (unless he wows) from there, and then you may trade him if Schaefer (if he's here) makes him redundant

If the heavens part for an awesome 1 for 1 for a Forward right now, great, but those are fairly rare.

As goofy as five first round picks on defensemen in five years is, it does help that Bedard is basically a sure thing first liner and you did throw a lot of depth first round picks on forwards already with Nazar, Moore, Boisvert and Vanacker.
 
x Tame Impala said:
I also dont get why you'd trade Korchinksi. Having 4-6 stud dman would be phenomenal. We wouldn't have to worry about our Dcore for 10 years. Play them all 18ish minutes a night for all I care.
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In a Hawks world without Schaefer, Korchinski could be the odd man out.

Is he going to be a better PKer than Vlasic, Allan, Crevier, Rinzel, and Lev? I doubt it. Hell I'll throw in Kaiser and Del Mastro.
On the PP, the Hawks drafted Lev for that and Rinzel could fit in quite comfortably on the 2nd unit. Vlasic would be a 3rd option.

So where does Korchinski fit? A third pairing even strength guy that to this point is questionable defensively?
 
ploppsdman said:
If chicago picks first, I 100% trade the first overall to a team desperate for Schaefer. It would be very difficult to develop Lev, Korch, Rinzel, AND Schaefer.

OR, if Schaefer is the BPA and you keep the pick, you better have a D for F prospect trade lined up.
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Your takes just keep getting worse.
 
ploppsdman said:
If chicago picks first, I 100% trade the first overall to a team desperate for Schaefer. It would be very difficult to develop Lev, Korch, Rinzel, AND Schaefer.

OR, if Schaefer is the BPA and you keep the pick, you better have a D for F prospect trade lined up.
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While I feel dirty for it, I agree with you.

But it depends on a lot of variables. The trade has to keep you in the top 3 making it difficult.

But I like the D future as it is.
 
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