2025 NHL Draft Rankings: Sandman's Winter is Coming Edition - Top 100

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As winter envelops our western basecamp in Calgary, Alberta in the foothills of the Canadian Rockies, we have released Upside Hockey’s prolific prospect profiler Trevor Curtis's alternative draft rankings:

"For an alternative perspective to Upside Hockey’s incomparable Chief of Scouting Eldon MacDonald, our prolific prospect profiler Trevor Curtis offers up his Top 100 November edition. While we’ll have much more in terms of prospect analysis, we’re keeping this version simple: just the rankings list."


Top 10 teaser:
Who’s: too high? too low? missing in action
?

1) C James Hagens
2) RW Porter Martone
3) C Mike Misa
4) D Matt Schaefer
5) C Roger McQueen
6) C Anton Frondell
7) D Jackson Smith
8) C Ivan Ryabkin
9) LW Victor Eklund
10) C Caleb Desnoyers

For the Top 100:
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Dare to compare against our official rankings from our chief of scouting, Eldon MacDonald, highlighted in this thread:
 

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You'll notice when compared to our official rankings, one William Moore has made a big leap up the charts. Charlie Trethewey has also jumped well into the first round. Ihs-Wozniak also is a first rounder in Curtis's eyes, while MacDonald has him slated as a mid-2nd rnder at this point.

Any other glaring discrepancies on where you see prospects landing next June?
 

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Both have fallen in most of the better draft profiles ive seen . Moore i see because of the upside potential but hes late first round . trethaway i dont see in any first round mock picks and ive watched 6 games i dont see it at all so whats your scout reasoning on it ?
 
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You'll notice when compared to our official rankings, one William Moore has made a big leap up the charts. Charlie Trethewey has also jumped well into the first round. Ihs-Wozniak also is a first rounder in Curtis's eyes, while MacDonald has him slated as a mid-2nd rnder at this point.

Any other glaring discrepancies on where you see prospects landing next June?
Osmanis seems to be buried in the lower rounds.

Can you elaborate on why he ranks lower than Klingsell or Ekberg?

Osmanis is one of <5 players globally to have succesfully transitioned into pro hockey at his age. Seems weird he's still ranked so low.

Players scoring at that rate in Allsvenskan usually go in the 2nd round.
 
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The Good: Lots of Czechs and feels optmistic for us.
The Weird: I think it goes Mrtka and then Cihar and I didn't see his name. Did I miss it?
 
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As winter envelops our western basecamp in Calgary, Alberta in the foothills of the Canadian Rockies, we have released Upside Hockey’s prolific prospect profiler Trevor Curtis's alternative draft rankings:

"For an alternative perspective to Upside Hockey’s incomparable Chief of Scouting Eldon MacDonald, our prolific prospect profiler Trevor Curtis offers up his Top 100 November edition. While we’ll have much more in terms of prospect analysis, we’re keeping this version simple: just the rankings list."


Top 10 teaser:
Who’s: too high? too low? missing in action
?

1) C James Hagens
2) RW Porter Martone
3) C Mike Misa
4) D Matt Schaefer
5) C Roger McQueen
6) C Anton Frondell
7) D Jackson Smith
8) C Ivan Ryabkin
9) LW Victor Eklund
10) C Caleb Desnoyers

For the Top 100:
__________________

Dare to compare against our official rankings from our chief of scouting, Eldon MacDonald, highlighted in this thread:
How close are you, if at all, to replacing Hagens as # 1 ?
 
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UpsideHockey

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Some awesome questions - I'll check in with our ranker for this article and get back to you.

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Bonus; this is already a wee bit out of date admittedly as the games click off, but icymi:

Upside's 2025 NHL Draft Stat Watch​

Our prolific prospect profiler Trevor Curtis's keeps a close eye on the numbers​

Upside's 2025 NHL Draft Stat Watch

(note, of course, there's much much more to rankings to stats in their draft yr - just one area to keep an eye on)
 

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Both have fallen in most of the better draft profiles ive seen . Moore i see because of the upside potential but hes late first round . trethaway i dont see in any first round mock picks and ive watched 6 games i dont see it at all so whats your scout reasoning on it ?
who are you referring to as 4 guys were mentioned in preceding post

ahhh,. nvmnd - i misread
 

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Both have fallen in most of the better draft profiles ive seen . Moore i see because of the upside potential but hes late first round . trethaway i dont see in any first round mock picks and ive watched 6 games i dont see it at all so whats your scout reasoning on it ?
"Simply put, I love Will Moore- even if his production is not where it was expected to be. He's a stud, with excellent skill, skating, and hockey sense, and he plays with power. Trethewey is ranked 13th by Craig Button, 15th by Bob McKenzie, 14th by Jason Bukala, and 13th by Daily Faceoff- there are questions about his decision-making under pressure at times, but he's otherwise a physical two-way presence with good mobility and skill who plays a pro-style game. This year's edition of the NTDP looks pretty weak, which has affected his numbers, but his production from 2023-24 (in his D-minus-1) makes me think there's much more in his arsenal offensively than he's been able to show thus far." ~ TC
 

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The Good: Lots of Czechs and feels optmistic for us.
The Weird: I think it goes Mrtka and then Cihar and I didn't see his name. Did I miss it?
"No disrespect to Cihar, he's an excellent player with some grit and physicality, but there are questions about his offensive ceiling- some say he projects to bottom-6 duty at best, and there's certainly nothing wrong with that. His skating is good, but not great, and his overall hockey sense has been questioned, along with his defensive game. In this summer's Hlinka, his offensive contributions were overshadowed by fellow draft-eligibles Adam Benak, Vit Zahejsky, Adam Novotny, Tomas Poletin, and Dominik Pavlik- although he performed well by all accounts in the most recent U-20 5 Nations. I think some of his countrymen may have higher ceilings, but Cihar might just have a higher floor." ~ TC
 
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Czechboy

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"No disrespect to Cihar, he's an excellent player with some grit and physicality, but there are questions about his offensive ceiling- some say he projects to bottom-6 duty at best, and there's certainly nothing wrong with that. His skating is good, but not great, and his overall hockey sense has been questioned, along with his defensive game. In this summer's Hlinka, his offensive contributions were overshadowed by fellow draft-eligibles Adam Benak, Vit Zahejsky, Adam Novotny, Tomas Poletin, and Dominik Pavlik- although he performed well by all accounts in the most recent U-20 5 Nations. I think some of his countrymen may have higher ceilings, but Cihar might just have a higher floor." ~ TC
Thank you! I don't necessarily agree but I do apprecaite the quote and different perspective from my biased one.
 

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