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HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II

I think Cootes and Aitcheson are looking like goners before we pick.
I've seen the rumours with Cootes are mostly around him and Vancouver but it seems like Vancouver may be set on trading 15 so I'm not sure where that leaves him.

I still think there's a decent chance Eklund is there when we pick - not sure if Hughes would take him (I definitely would), but he seems most likely to drop of my top ~8 guys
 
Maybe but I think they're likely candidates to be available as well. They're going to be picked in the range we pick IMO. If Cootes is picked before, this means there's a good chance someone in the top 14 falls to us, which is great.

I have a top 12.. and I don't anticipate any of the top 12 falling to us except Bear because of the injury and being introverted.

Aitcheson probably 3rd/4th D man off the board.

Freidman just mentioned Cootes getting late hype and plays C.
 
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I love Aitcheson in Juniors. The reason I don’t have him higher is I’m unsure about how is skating will hold up in the pros. Because he’s an older kid he has a bit less time to improve it…I don’t think it needs to be like Boumedienne or Schafer to have NHL success, just that he makes it work. If his skating does hold up, it means his scoring and hitting will likely too. So it’s about evaluating his skating.
 
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I think we might see Hagens fall a few more spots at the draft. He's been in a constant decline in the lists since the start of the season and I wouldn't be shocked if he becomes this year's Eiserman. In Bob's list, Eiserman was 14 but he was picked 20. I think Hagens will be around 8 in his list and be picked in the mid 10s.
 
0ne bold prediction
The Canadiens will draft Will Horcoff at some point over the weekend. Not necessarily 16th or 17th overall, but perhaps later in the first round, or earlier than they’re slated to pick in the second.
The son of former NHLer Shawn Horcoff, who ground his way through over 1000 games (mostly played with the Edmonton Oilers) before eventually becoming the current assistant general manager of the Red Wings, blew the competition away at the NHL combine in Buffalo earlier this month.
He’s a six-foot-four forward whose competitiveness is garnering much more attention than his offence. It was limited in his split season between the United States National Development Program and Michigan University, hence some publicly available lists projecting he’ll go 24th overall and some projecting he’ll fall all the way to 67th.
Based on conversations we’ve had, Horcoff’s size, strength, battle level and pedigree will likely see him picked higher than most public lists are projecting.

Potential Round 1 options
Pinning these down feels particularly challenging in a year in which there’s no real consensus on prospect rankings from eighth overall to 20th.
Speaking with a director of amateur scouting for a Western Conference team last week, he felt the variance in opinion within his own team’s meetings was as wide as he’s seen it in years.
“That’s still a good thing, because you want the debate to be as exhaustive as possible before forming your final list. But what I mean is that the group at the top of this draft is strong and the rest of the first round doesn’t appear as though it’ll yield as many sure bets as in years past,” he said. “Not to say there won’t be great players to come out of the rest of the first round; it just feels like there are fewer guarantees, which leads to less consensus on the potential of a given player.”
The scouting director wasn’t going to tell us how he feels about any of them, and all we’ve got to go on regarding the Canadiens’ preferences is rumour, rather than fact.
So, with that in mind, here are four players we think — and this is purely our opinion — they may consider at 16th or 17 thoverall:
Carter Bear: A six-foot winger with excellent hockey sense and a penchant for getting his nose dirty in the gritty Western Hockey League. Bear’s heady, steady play — he had 40 goals and 82 points in 56 games with the Everett Silvertips — probably makes him unavailable by the time the Canadiens are on the clock. But if a late-season Achilles injury that required surgery puts any type of scare into the teams picking ahead of them, perhaps he slips into their hands.
Lynden Lakovic: The six-foot-four, silky and speedy left winger scored 27 goals and 58 points in 47 games with the Western Hockey League’s Moose Jaw Warriors this season. Only collecting four penalty minutes, however, was just one indication he doesn’t fit the bill of a power forward. If the Canadiens feel he can develop a bit more edge and grit, the skill he possesses could see him land in Montreal.
Justin Carbonneau: The six-foot-one right winger scored 46 goals and 89 points in 62 games for the Blainville-Boisbriand Armada to finish second in QMJHL scoring this season. He’s skilled, he plays a heavy game, and the possibility the Levis, Que., native gets drafted by Montreal feels real.
Jack Nesbitt: He’s a six-foot-four centre who plays like he’s six-foot-four. There are concerns Nesbitt’s foot speed will keep him from toping out as a top-six forward in the NHL, but he had 25 goals and a 64 points in 65 games with the Ontario Hockey League’s Windsor Spitfires this season and appears like he can do more with a bit more opportunity.

- Eric Engels
 
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I think we might see Hagens fall a few more spots at the draft. He's been in a constant decline in the lists since the start of the season and I wouldn't be shocked if he becomes this year's Eiserman. In Bob's list, Eiserman was 14 but he was picked 20. I think Hagens will be around 8 in his list and be picked in the mid 10s.
Another one I’m curious about is Martone. He looks like a high potential polished power forward but how confortable about his skating are the Hawks, Utah, and the other teams?
 
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Ryabkin has entered DND territory for a lot of teams. His interviews were bad and he's really out of shape. Big character concerns there. Highly doubtful he goes before the 3rd round. Wheeler on the Athletic wrote about this in a Combine article.
I would pick him at #49
 
Here's what my top 10 looks like atm:

1. Matthew Schafer
2. Michael Misa
3. Roger McQueen
4. James Hagens
5. Anton Frondell
6. Porter Martone
7. Caleb Desnoyers
8. Jake O'Brien
9. Lyndon Lakovic
10. Logan Hensler
 
McKenzie's final draft ranking, top 10 right now:
1. Matthew SCHAEFER
2. Michael MISA
3. Porter MARTONE
4. Anton FRONDELL
5. Caleb DESNOYERS
6. Jake O'BRIEN
7. James HAGENS
8. Brady MARTIN
9. Roger MQUEEN
10. Victor EKLUND

Martone still ranked at 3, quite surprised to see O'Brien before Hagens.
 
McKenzie's final draft ranking, top 10 right now:
1. Matthew SCHAEFER
2. Michael MISA
3. Porter MARTONE
4. Anton FRONDELL
5. Caleb DESNOYERS
6. Jake O'BRIEN
7. James HAGENS
8. Brady MARTIN
9. Roger MQUEEN
10. Victor EKLUND

Martone still ranked at 3, quite surprised to see O'Brien before Hagens.
I'm surprised as well, it seems that every time I load up a new shift by shift for Martone, I'm hesitating on whether I prefer the next name on my list or not. I could have Desnoyers ahead easily.
 
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McKenzie's final draft ranking, top 10 right now:
1. Matthew SCHAEFER
2. Michael MISA
3. Porter MARTONE
4. Anton FRONDELL
5. Caleb DESNOYERS
6. Jake O'BRIEN
7. James HAGENS
8. Brady MARTIN
9. Roger MQUEEN
10. Victor EKLUND

Martone still ranked at 3, quite surprised to see O'Brien before Hagens.
11. Radim MRTKA
12. Jackson SMITH
13. Kashawn AITCHESON
14. Carter BEAR :(
15. Logan HENSLER
16. Justin CARBONNEAU (please no)
17. Jack NESBITT
18. Braeden COOTES
19. Cole RESCHNY
20. Lynden LAKOVIC
 
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The top-13 looks like a lock at this point, I don't see anyone with potential to jump past Aitcheson except Bear.

Our picks are looking like whoever is left between Bear, Hensler, Lakovic, Cootes

Sad.
 
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I think we might see Hagens fall a few more spots at the draft. He's been in a constant decline in the lists since the start of the season and I wouldn't be shocked if he becomes this year's Eiserman. In Bob's list, Eiserman was 14 but he was picked 20. I think Hagens will be around 8 in his list and be picked in the mid 10s.

Eiserman fell because scouts didn't think he was nearly as good as they expected him to be and some flat out couldn't stand the kid. They literally questioned everything about Eichel other than his size and shot. Hagens will fall mainly due to size but he isn't falling outside of the top 10 imo. Size is his only question mark but he is extremely gifted, highly intelligent and works hard.

The wildcard like always is dmen as Mrtka and Jackson could push some guys out of the top 10
 

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