HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II

[Team_Spirit]

Draft talk 4:00 to 13:00

 

[McGees]

 

[Goldenhands]

I always laugh at these praise-heaping testimonials as much as I enjoy listening to Martineau. He paints but a partial picture. We’ll look to orher pundits to get the rest of the story.

I always laugh when Martineau and JIC team up to dismiss the Reinbacher pick as often as they can when the kid is the only defenseman picked in the 1st round since the start of the rebuild.

2022:
Slaf F
Mesar F

2023:
Reinbacher D
(Package deal to get Newhook) F

2024:
Demidov F
Hage F

They have no clue how to build a hockey team, top pair RD, big minutes munchers are as hard to get as it is to get quality top line centers. I mean, take a look at the Oilers, they have 2nd pair defensemen playing on the top pair and 3rd pairing defensemen playing on the 2nd pair, it works greatly... Same story with the Leafs, they are built at the top with a weak D group and goaltending.

Habs are built properly and it will pay down the road.

 

[HabsMD97]

I always laugh when Martineau and JIC team up to dismiss the Reinbacher pick as often as they can when the kid is the only defenseman picked in the 1st round since the start of the rebuild.

2022:
Slaf F
Mesar F

2023:
Reinbacher D
(Package deal to get Newhook) F

2024:
Demidov F
Hage F

They have no clue how to build a hockey team, top pair RD, big minutes munchers are as hard to get as it is to get quality top line centers. I mean, take a look at the Oilers, they have 2nd pair defensemen playing on the top pair and 3rd pairing defensemen playing on the 2nd pair, it works greatly... Same story with the Leafs, they are built at the top with a weak D group and goaltending.

Habs are built properly and it will pay down the road.

Most public scouts and fans have no idea how to build a hockey team. Go look at the finals, 70% of goals Florida scored was off the forecheck, if you don't have D that can handle relentless pressure you don't win cups. If you don't have great forecheckers, you don't win cups.

I saw blue chip prospect guy on youtube say he would pick Lakovic and Carbonneau with the habs picks, I almost fell off my chair.

 

[le_sean]

I always laugh at these praise-heaping testimonials as much as I enjoy listening to Martineau. He paints but a partial picture. We’ll look to orher pundits to get the rest of the story.

I like this stuff. He gets these kids to step out of their typical agent-led regurgitation. He seems like a good dude and gets these kids to open up a bit more. I appreciate something different as the NHL is so cookie cutter

 

[Deus ex machina]

I always laugh when Martineau and JIC team up to dismiss the Reinbacher pick as often as they can when the kid is the only defenseman picked in the 1st round since the start of the rebuild.

2022:
Slaf F
Mesar F

2023:
Reinbacher D
(Package deal to get Newhook) F

2024:
Demidov F
Hage F

They have no clue how to build a hockey team, top pair RD, big minutes munchers are as hard to get as it is to get quality top line centers. I mean, take a look at the Oilers, they have 2nd pair defensemen playing on the top pair and 3rd pairing defensemen playing on the 2nd pair, it works greatly... Same story with the Leafs, they are built at the top with a weak D group and goaltending.

Habs are built properly and it will pay down the road.

Martineau is one of those people who don't like Reinbacher because they wanted the Habs to take Michkov.
That started even before the draft when there were strong indications the Habs might take Reinbacher.
He was (politely) dissing on Reinbacher every chance he got, like it would somehow influence the Habs...lol

Super professionnal journalism.

 

[Goldenhands]

Most public scouts and fans have no idea how to build a hockey team. Go look at the finals, 70% of goals Florida scored was off the forecheck, if you don't have D that can handle relentless pressure you don't win cups. If you don't have great forecheckers, you don't win cups.

I saw blue chip prospect guy on youtube say he would pick Lakovic and Carbonneau with the habs picks, I almost fell off my chair.

The thing with Lakovic though, while he isnt a great forechecker yet, his combo of skating/reach offers ton of potential since he covers a large area of the ice and he has shifts where he skates both ways relentlessly. Of course,there is room for improvements and there is some projection to do with this kid as he is pretty raw, but I think the tools are there and he would be well surrounded on the Habs.

 

[HabsMD97]

The thing with Lakovic though, while he isnt a great forechecker yet, his combo of skating/reach offers ton of potential since he covers a large area of the ice and he has shifts where he skates both ways relentlessly. Of course,there is room for improvements and there is some projection to do with this kid as he is pretty raw, but I think the tools are there and he would be well surrounded on the Habs.

Oh I really like Lakovic and I'd be happy if the habs pick him, but there's no way they pick 2 risky wingers. If they pick one of Lakovic or Carbonneau the 2nd pick will almost surely be a D or a safer player like Cootes or Bear who already bring defensive and forechecking value and in Cootes' case is also a center.

 

[DemidovSZN]

Oh I really like Lakovic and I'd be happy if the habs pick him, but there's no way they pick 2 risky wingers. If they pick one of Lakovic or Carbonneau the 2nd pick will almost surely be a D or a safer player like Cootes or Bear who already bring defensive and forechecking value and in Cootes' case is also a center.

Pretty sure Bear would be their top guy if he is available but the thing is that it’s most likely Bear OR Lakovic not both and there’s a possibility neither are on the board when the habs pick. Getting at least one of them would be very exciting.

 

[DemidovSZN]

 

[Yukon Cornelius Habs]

Ez money for the betting man; Hensler to the Jackets.



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Amazing.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Man, this guy is super intriguing. Fully aware of his shortcomings, but, conversely, I would just love a team of cro-magnon caveman motherf***ers that essentially never give the opponent the puck.

 

[Vachon23]

Oh I really like Lakovic and I'd be happy if the habs pick him, but there's no way they pick 2 risky wingers. If they pick one of Lakovic or Carbonneau the 2nd pick will almost surely be a D or a safer player like Cootes or Bear who already bring defensive and forechecking value and in Cootes' case is also a center.

Carbonneau isn’t scare to forecheck and likes to battle in the corner

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Finally an in depth video of Prokhorov. Well Simon and Grant both like him so that makes me feel even better about getting one of Carbonneau/Bear/Lakovic/Prokhorov at 16. Maybe even 2 of them.

 

[A55P2]

Finally an in depth video of Prokhorov. Well Simon and Grant both like him so that makes me feel even better about getting one of Carbonneau/Bear/Lakovic/Prokhorov at 16. Maybe even 2 of them.

He does look like something we would need. Not only can he attack the net, he seems to actually want to do just that on a consistent basis. The willingness is the tough part usually, Anderson and Armia can do it but they rarely try. We'll see how the draft unfolds but I'm adding him to my list of prospects I'd be happy to get.

 

[DesmondDekker]

16-17 might be too rich for me to pick Prokhorov, however he likely won’t be there at 41 so if they really like him they either move up from the 2nd round, trade down from 16-17 or simply pick him there.

I’ll trust Bobrov on this one, he could be a true unicorn if his development goes well.

 

[David Suzuki]

Most public scouts and fans have no idea how to build a hockey team. Go look at the finals, 70% of goals Florida scored was off the forecheck, if you don't have D that can handle relentless pressure you don't win cups. If you don't have great forecheckers, you don't win cups.

by this logic neither do the scouts of the team that has been to back to back finals since the oilers d couldn’t handle it lol

sometimes you let the draft come to you especially in the middle of the first, if the best two players left are skilled wingers take them and figure the rest out elsewhere imo

 

[le_sean]

by this logic neither do the scouts of the team that has been to back to back finals since the oilers d couldn’t handle it lol

sometimes you let the draft come to you especially in the middle of the first, if the best two players left are skilled wingers take them and figure the rest out elsewhere imo

I still maintain that wing is where the Habs are weakest in their prospect pool anyways. It’s just people overlook it because of Cole, Demidov and Slaf. But if you want to compete for the Cup, you need at least 3 strong lines capable of tilting the ice. Right now our best winger in the system is Joshua Roy. That’s really not good enough.

We have no one in line to take over Laine’s spot in a year. We have no one in line to take over Anderson and Gallagher in a couple of years.

 

[A55P2]

I still maintain that wing is where the Habs are weakest in their prospect pool anyways. It’s just people overlook it because of Cole, Demidov and Slaf. But if you want to compete for the Cup, you need at least 3 strong lines capable of tilting the ice. Right now our best winger in the system is Joshua Roy. That’s really not good enough.

We have no one in line to take over Laine’s spot in a year. We have no one in line to take over Anderson and Gallagher in a couple of years.

Same. I'm personally hoping we're picking two wingers.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Same. I'm personally hoping we're picking two wingers.

Center and a winger for me. Need more than Hage who can play top 6.

 

[le_sean]

Center and a winger for me. Need more than Hage who can play top 6.

That’s why Cootes would be a great pick if they miss out on Bear. I can see him on the wing in the NHL if need be. He’s not a Nesbitt who doesn’t have the skills or skating to play wide.

 

[WeThreeKings]

That’s why Cootes would be a great pick if they miss out on Bear. I can see him on the wing in the NHL if need be. He’s not a Nesbitt who doesn’t have the skills or skating to play wide.

Cootes would be great for the bumper spot on the PP as well. Hes such a good fit

 

[Apfle Strubble]

I still maintain that wing is where the Habs are weakest in their prospect pool anyways. It’s just people overlook it because of Cole, Demidov and Slaf. But if you want to compete for the Cup, you need at least 3 strong lines capable of tilting the ice. Right now our best winger in the system is Joshua Roy. That’s really not good enough.

We have no one in line to take over Laine’s spot in a year. We have no one in line to take over Anderson and Gallagher in a couple of years.

I 100% agree. Intense, talented, forechecky wingers who are great on the cycle are missing from the pool

The wingers were actually a strength of the Habs this season. Excluding Caufield and Slaf, all of them were older vets that can't be counted on in three years. Gallagher, Anderson, Armia were pretty solid contributors at 5v5. Demidov will provide a massive upgrade on the PP and in terms of generating offence, but the depth is weak

Also, let's get real, when a prospect is said to have "top-6 upside", it means 3rd liner and "bottom 6 upside" means 4th liner. I like a physical 4th liner with jam, but we also have to get a good 3rd line

My dream is to get both Bear and Eklund for this draft. Two talented wingers with jam and good two-way play who are pretty safe bets to make it as good 3rd liners if they don't reach their ceiling

 

[le_sean]

To me it’s worrying that he dominates down low so much yet has so little assist totals. He seems to only have interest in getting his own shot off when coming from behind the net when a lot of time he could have passed it to a teammate in the slot or the backdoor. Extreme tunnel vision.

And this is the MHL. If he has his head down and only tries wraparounds every time in NA professional hockey, he’s going to get absolutely obliterated by defenders that are a similar size.

 

[DemidovSZN]

That’s why Cootes would be a great pick if they miss out on Bear. I can see him on the wing in the NHL if need be. He’s not a Nesbitt who doesn’t have the skills or skating to play wide.

Nesbitt definitely has the skills.

People will make it seems like it’s out of nowhere when he’ll explode next season and score 90 something points.