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HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II

Nahh

Even if such profiles make it once the going gets tough and playoff hockey starts, they crawl and behind the shell.

The more I hear about Lakovic, between his mystery season suspension, his lack of intensity to him consulting for his lack of desire and will makes me want to slap a DND on him and just move on.

On another note, who's the last player that was drafted with such knocks that ever amounted to much and contributed on a winning team and not be tied into mediocrity and consistent lotto teams?
That's fine, I trust our staff to make the correct call if they pick up on all that in their scouting and determine he's just not worth the risk. I like him as a project, but I won't throw a fit if they don't take him either. There are plenty of other less toolsy but more projectable options. That's if they actual stay put with these picks, too.
 
I keep seeing all these draft ranking lists, is there a list that is a mock draft that looks at team needs, interviews, history trends, etc.

I'm curious because I keep hoping a special player, like caufield, falls to us.
Here's an attempt

1. NYI - Schaefer, no questions asked

2. SJS - Misa, again, no questions asked

3. CHI - Frondell, it gets quite complex as of this pick, I think there's a strong chance they see Bedard as being a better fit on the wing and I feel like they go Frondell

4. UTAH - Martin, lots of smoke here that they might love Martin and are comfortable with leaking it because he ain't going top 3

5. NSH - Desnoyers, best C available and a better fit for the system they've had in place for so long

6. PHI - Hagens, I think they'd ideally like more size here with Konecny and Mitchov in their top 6 but a top 6 center is an absolute must here, you can't pass

7. BOS - Martone, while I think they'd consider O'Brien and more so Martin had he been available but in this scenario, I think they go PM

8. SEA - Mrtka, they got lots of center depth, they also lack solid D depth in the pipelines why not opt for the 6'5 RD which is a profile that rarely if ever goes beyond 10.

9. BUF - Bear, I think their whole identity needs to be questioned and getting players that play with a passion and an edge is something Buffalo needs to add, Bear is clearly the profile here and f*** it, every mock needs its surprises

10. ANA - O'Brien, not much to think about, I'd say it's him or McQueen but the lack of back issues make this the easy pick

11. PIT - McQueen, top 5-7 talent but too many health concerns which probably get them wondering but he isn't a guy that will fall much more than that

12. NYR - Eklund, I think ideally they go Dman here but I think Eklund is in a tier above any Dman available here and I refuse to be another dude mocking Eklund to Detroit because Yzerman collects Swedes

13. DET - Aitchenson, best dman available, I think he's got a lower ceiling that a Smith but has a higher bottom, a safe pick that plays with some punch

14. CBS - Smith, 13 or 14 is where I see Smith going, both teams probably prefer to add dmen to their prospect pools and both Smith and Aitchenson line up well here in the rankings

15. VAN - Lakovic, I do see the Canucks and hope they grab him, selfishly to simply making him unavailable when we pick, I'd hope their scouts saw something they liked from him while he did indeed play in their back yard

16. MTL - Hensler, not a pick I'd be fond of here but it feels like he'd be the pick if this scenario plays out and also because all the best forwards available here are slightly undersized so this compensates for the next pick

17. MTL - Cootes, the three guys I'd personally consider here are Reschny, Kindel and Cootes in this order, especially if we do take a D or a big forward as to who we'd take, I'd go with what the organization might think and the rumors that we don't love Reschny.

18. CGY - Reschny, great fit here, BPA and IMO an actual center for the future

19. STL - Kindel, Can't see him drop more than that but what do I know, STL is well built to just go BPA and not are about size or position

20. CBS - Prokhorov, following the Smith pick and what better player to pick here than the smooth skating hard hitting Russian, the Jackets know a thing or two about developing big eastern Europeans and Russians lately and Prokhorov would probably be comfortable landing there.

21. OTT - Carbonneau, I do see this as being a realistic destination for Carbo, he needs a lot of development and coaching but the fit in Ottawa looks good to me and the profile matches.

22. PHI - Fiddler, Philly adds an RD with size here and hopes Fiddler can become a solid #4 or a 5 one day

23. NSH - Reid, I think it's a no brainer here, they went forward at 5, historically they. Have done well developing Dmen and the can definitely add some puck moving Dmen to their prospect pool, I think Reid has more upside than most players which are picked after 18 or so

24. LAK - Zonnon, don't ask me why, have been mocking him here consistently, it just feels like the perfect fit

25. CHI- Vansaghi, Chicago needs anything and everything and could add some size to their forward core, I like Vanshaghi and can see how many times picking in the 20s will want him

26. NSH - Potter, after selecting Desnoyers and Reid why not go for the undersize but dynamic winger, probably the best pure talent (which actually works hard) available

27. WSH - Gastrin, not gonna fall into the Ryabkin generic pick here, I think he's a player that should be way later, Gastrin would give the Caps a young responsible center that already plays a smooth game and looks to be a future 3C

28. WIN - Nestrasil, I see it already, another huge forward on the Jets, it was already written, I also think this is the range for this player where if he's picked here the value is proper

29. CAR - Limatov, he's big, mobile, plays the proper way, I think if we wasn't Russian he'd be ranked close to Smith and Aitchenson and the Hurricanes drafting and identifying top talent has been as good as it gets

30. SJS - Brzustewicz, why not select the London Knight RD and maybe have him eventually pair up with Dickinson

31. CGY - Spence, after going Reschny, Spence is a good complement and select the big hard working winger but one with third line upside IMO

32. PHI - Frolov, the Flyers selecting the big 6'3 goalie with their third and final pick of the first, I think if any team selects a goalie in the first it's Philly and potentially with this pick

Written on mobile so odds are there's a lot of typos etc
 
16. MTL - Hensler, not a pick I'd be fond of here but it feels like he'd be the pick if this scenario plays out and also because all the best forwards available here are slightly undersized so this compensates for the next pick

17. MTL - Cootes, the three guys I'd personally consider here are Reschny, Kindel and Cootes in this order, especially if we do take a D or a big forward as to who we'd take, I'd go with what the organization might think and the rumors that we don't love Reschny.
You really nailed the top 15 picks IMO and it's how I expect things to go as well with maybe some small variances. I'm also convinced Hensler and Cootes will be our picks in that scenario. Not a bad haul but sort of underwhelming. Please trade up Kent!
 
You really nailed the top 15 picks IMO and it's how I expect things to go as well with maybe some small variances. I'm also convinced Hensler and Cootes will be our picks in that scenario. Not a bad haul but sort of underwhelming. Please trade up Kent!
Honestly I'm not sure Cootes projects as much better than Beck. Hensler is a probable 4/5D which is fine but not great ROI there. I'd rather swing for Kindel and Prokhorov if we keep both - a potential future 2C for Demidov and a winger who could fit that line like a glove and keep the other team honest.
 
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I could get behind the idea of reaching a bit on both Prokhorov and Limatov if there's a clear way of having them out of the MHL in their D+1 season. I'm not all that crazy about the classic 3 minutes on the main KHL team per game for 2 years post draft scenario either. They're not like Demidov, they're going to need to develop a lot to reach their potential and I'd want them to be in the best position possible for it.
 
I could get behind the idea of reaching a bit on both Prokhorov and Limatov if there's a clear way of having them out of the MHL in their D+1 season. I'm not all that crazy about the classic 3 minutes on the main KHL team per game for 2 years post draft scenario either. They're not like Demidov, they're going to need to develop a lot to reach their potential and I'd want them to be in the best position possible for it.
Prokhorov should play VHL next year IMO, I don't think he's urgently needed to switch to NA.
 
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Article from Basu regarding names Montreal might be interested in (not at 16 or 17):


Names mentioned:

-Nesbitt
-Moore
-Horcoff
-Gard

Mostly Nesbitt and Gard.
These big, responsible centres will get over drafted by someone. As long as it’s not at 16/17
 
Article from Basu regarding names Montreal might be interested in (not at 16 or 17):


Names mentioned:

-Nesbitt
-Moore
-Horcoff
-Gard

Mostly Nesbitt and Gard.
I think this is the most important paragraph in the article: "They will always prioritize skill earlier in the draft. But later on, that physicality and heaviness will surely become an increasingly important factor in how they approach their picks."

I'm ok with trying to hit unicorns at the later draft, as long as we focus on BPA/Skill in the first round.
 
Admittedly not a fan of Gard but open to changing my opinion. Why do you love him? What do you project for him at the next level?
He's a big center that actually plays physical and can skate. He's a 2 way guy, plays both PP and PK. You're hoping he continues to develop the offense, but even if he doesn't he can easily be a useful bottom 6 guy.
 
Every mock has us drafting the same 3~4 guys wth! Expect the unexpected.

Waiting for the draft, oh
When you would be here in my arms
Waiting for draft, oh-oh
I've dreamed of this draft for so long
Waiting for draft, oh
When you would be here in my arms
Waiting for draft, oh-oh
I've dreamed of this draft for so long
Waiting for the draft
Oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh-oh

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Every mock has us drafting the same 3~4 guys wth! Expect the unexpected.

Waiting for the draft, oh
When you would be here in my arms
Waiting for draft, oh-oh
I've dreamed of this draft for so long
Waiting for draft, oh
When you would be here in my arms
Waiting for draft, oh-oh
I've dreamed of this draft for so long
Waiting for the draft
Oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh-oh

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West & Horcoff! Book it!
 
Every mock has us drafting the same 3~4 guys wth! Expect the unexpected.

Waiting for the draft, oh
When you would be here in my arms
Waiting for draft, oh-oh
I've dreamed of this draft for so long
Waiting for draft, oh
When you would be here in my arms
Waiting for draft, oh-oh
I've dreamed of this draft for so long
Waiting for the draft
Oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh-oh

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Looks like Dach's rehab is going very poorly!
 
Nahh

Even if such profiles make it once the going gets tough and playoff hockey starts, they crawl and behind the shell.

The more I hear about Lakovic, between his mystery season suspension, his lack of intensity to him consulting for his lack of desire and will makes me want to slap a DND on him and just move on.

On another note, who's the last player that was drafted with such knocks that ever amounted to much and contributed on a winning team and not be tied into mediocrity and consistent lotto teams?
Ryan Getzlaf
 

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