HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II

[Schooner Goon]

I don't buy that they have never watched Reschny live though. Not an organisation like the Habs with the resources they have and the prospect being a high profile prospect in the draft in a key position like center. That would be gross negligence even if you have very little interest in him.

Yeah. It's ridiculous and naive to think they haven't had anyone watch him given they currently have two picks right in the wheelhouse of where Reschny might be picked. Especially with the second half and playoff he had. Like you said, it would be gross negligence. This Habs hockey ops group takes great pride in having an open mind, doing its due diligence and not leaving any stones unturned.

 

[le_sean]

What do you mean by type of player? All players are different. Any player we take at 16-17 is going to have question marks. Before last year they hadn't picked a player like Demidov. Three years ago you argued for weeks leading up to the draft that they would never take Slaf #1 overall.

Hughes has said before that they try to avoid too much redundancy in players.

So you don’t have an example is what you’re saying because they typically target bigger, toolsy guys.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Apparently Lakovic did interview well and was interviewed by most teams. He's probably one of the most highly skilled players and best skaters in this draft and is 6ft4. In a weak draft year like this one, it would be hard not to take a chance on him if he's still around at 16-17 and we keep both our picks. Many of the other players in that 16-17 range have 3rd iine upside and maybe middle six if their development goes perfectly. We have plenty of those in the system.

The crazy thing about his lack of physicality is that his uncle Sasha Lakovic was tougher than nails and racked up a ton of PIMs in his pro career.

He fits mold of player Hughes likes. He's big, skilled but soft, Laine, Dach.

 

[crosbyshow]

5.10 ,75 and 180 is not small...He turned 18 2 months ago...

The dude will be around 5.11 190-95 down the road.


It is bigger than folks like Sakic, Point, Yzerman etc..

I don't know if the Habs like Reschny or not but in my view at 16th.... he is someone to look at very seriously.

There is a lot of similarities between him and Suzuki..a lot

 

[koivalev]

5.10 ,75 and 180 is not small...He turned 18 2 months ago...

The dude will be around 5.11 190-95 down the road.


It is bigger than folks like Sakic, Point, Yzerman etc..

I don't know if the Habs like Reschny or not but in my view at 16th.... he is someone to looatat very seriously.

There is a lot of similarities between him and Suzuki..a lot

More similarities between Kindel and Suzuki though

 

[crosbyshow]

More similarities between Kindel and Suzuki though

I am talking about size, skating at the same age and the fact that both scores or make plays on a lot of different ways.

I like Kindel too a lot

 

[koivalev]

I am talking about size, skating at the same age and the fact that both scores or make plays on a lot of different ways.

I like Kindel too a lot

As am I, but I think Kindel and Suzuki play more similarly in terms of using their brain and slowing the game down to solve problems. Reschny I find a bit more reliant on tools (which he does have, but which may become a bit less impactful at the NHL level).

Kindel and Suzuki play a similar two-way game as well.

 

[koivalev]

Is it just me or does it feel like a disproportionate amount of players rated 2nd round and later are just "defenceman who is big"?

 

[le_sean]

Is it just me or does it feel like a disproportionate amount of players rated 2nd round and later are just "defenceman who is big"?

Don’t forget "defenceman who is REALLY big" in Wang

 

[koivalev]

Don’t forget "defenceman who is REALLY big" in Wang

Look, when you see a guy go from 2 assists in 32 games in the regular season to 3 assists in 21 games in the playoffs, you can't help but think that progression warrants a 1st round rating.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Athletic staff mock was Lakovic and Carbo for us. Passing on Reschny who went a pick after. Cootes went 12.

 

[skidcells]

Athletic staff mock was Lakovic and Carbo for us. Passing on Reschny who went a pick after. Cootes went 12.

I doubt they double tab on wingers if they do draft back to back. Really looks to me they go D and Forward.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I doubt they double tab on wingers if they do draft back to back. Really looks to me they go D and Forward.

Basu commented he didnt love going back to back wingers but the pool is so deep he could go bpa.

 

[Playmaker09]

Is it just me or does it feel like a disproportionate amount of players rated 2nd round and later are just "defenceman who is big"?

It’s a bad 2nd round, so you’ll see more “projects” than usual, and at forward too.

Nestrasil, West, Prokhorov, Horcoff, Stockselius, Gard, Paupanekis.

 

[koivalev]

Athletic staff mock was Lakovic and Carbo for us. Passing on Reschny who went a pick after. Cootes went 12.

Cootes would join Luchanko, Dellandrea, and Faksa as members of the "OHL two-way C with mediocre DY production overdrafted in the early 10s" club.

Not a huge fan of Carbonneau, I think his game and hockey IQ will be exposed badly at the NHL level.

 

[Vachon23]

Athletic staff mock was Lakovic and Carbo for us. Passing on Reschny who went a pick after. Cootes went 12.

Would be fine with that, adding 2 forward with size who can score a lot of goals all though one of these guy is not really physical

 

[morhilane]

Is it just me or does it feel like a disproportionate amount of players rated 2nd round and later are just "defenceman who is big"?

This draft is very much just "...who is big", it's not just the dmen.

 

[le_sean]

Basu commented he didnt love going back to back wingers but the pool is so deep he could go bpa.

I don’t mind back-to-back wingers. The best winger currently in the system is Joshua Roy. I think we are quite thin there (just strong in the actual NHL)

Plus I remember when we were strong in LD, Bergevin took Guhle and we all questioned it. Turned out perfectly.

 

[Doublechin]

Would be fine with that, adding 2 forward with size who can score a lot of goals all though one of these guy is not really physical

Cootes would join Luchanko, Dellandrea, and Faksa as members of the "OHL two-way C with mediocre DY production overdrafted in the early 10s" club.

Not a huge fan of Carbonneau, I think his game and hockey IQ will be exposed badly at the NHL level.

Oh God, a terrible scenario if this is what we end up up, I don't have a DND on both of these guys but I would not touch either at 17-18

 

[crosbyshow]

I don’t mind back-to-back wingers. The best winger currently in the system is Joshua Roy. I think we are quite thin there (just strong in the actual NHL)

Plus I remember when we were strong in LD, Bergevin took Guhle and we all questioned it. Turned out perfectly.

I agree and if we keep our 2 picks I would even draft 2 forwards..then you increase your chance for a home run.

..and with 2 forwards they couls take a chance with a big forwards and yes an average one in size

 

[dcyhabs]

I think Hughes goes for size and penalty minutes. I agree with this article, NHL’s “let them play” playoffs are spoiling the product, that there are big advantages to just ignoring the refs and going completely over the edge all the time in the playoffs. The team has to be able to get to the playoffs, and that style won't work as well in the regular season, though it still works, but it is perfect for the playoffs. I don't know if you can do that outside of Florida, the US, or former expansion teams, but it really works for them.

If you just go over the edge with penalty minutes going down you take a bunch of penalties in the first period when your pkers are fresh, and then you keep doing the same thing, getting a play advantage, and the refs stop penalizing. You even get the even up calls in the third while making more penalty-worthy plays. It really works for Florida.

I don't know if it will ever work for Montreal, though. I could really see refs calling record penalties without batting an eye, like the 10 consecutive ones against the habs in Carolina when Therrien pissed off the refs years ago. It didn't go well for Montreal or Edmonton when they tried to match the rough play this year, either, penalties went against, while the opponents succeeded in doing more physical damage.

I think Hughes is going to look for some big, physical, guys in any case. Bennett would never sign here, his game works on a Panthers team where everyone else is over the edge and the Florida location neuters the refs. I suspect he will need to get players through the draft because they are valuable to start with, and then GMs overvalue on top.

The deals, direct and indirect, for picks in recent years, Dach, and Newhook have underwhelmed. The habs are talking about overpaying but they don't really have the assets to overpay unless they start dealing 2026 picks. The habs really don't have a good enough lineup to start dealing those picks, even protected. Many of their good players are fragile. An injury to Guhle and one other D could be enough to tank their season.

 

[Goldenhands]

Crosbyshow punching air.
Goldenhands fist pumping in the streets.

Arent you the one who was reporting everything Arpon Basu was saying in the past drafts?

 

[sampollock]

The NHL is closely monitoring the ongoing civil unrest and protests in Los Angeles, which will host the draft in just 16 days.

The Peacock Theater and LA Live are both within the current curfew zone, which restricts activities and movement from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m.”

- Frank Seravalli

mtl would host it asap

 

[le_sean]

The NHL is closely monitoring the ongoing civil unrest and protests in Los Angeles, which will host the draft in just 16 days.

The Peacock Theater and LA Live are both within the current curfew zone, which restricts activities and movement from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m.”

- Frank Seravalli

mtl would host it asap

It should just be in Montreal all of the time. Not only because the city is awesome and the fans are great, but the draft eligible players can all drink. It’s a different world and a lot more fun. Nothing beats Montreal in the summer.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Arent you the one who was reporting everything Arpon Basu was saying in the past drafts?

I was funneling all the information I saw, yes.