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Schooner Goon said:
Apparently Lakovic did interview well and was interviewed by most teams. He's probably one of the most highly skilled players and best skaters in this draft and is 6ft4. In a weak draft year like this one, it would be hard not to take a chance on him if he's still around at 16-17 and we keep both our picks. Many of the other players in that 16-17 range have 3rd iine upside and maybe middle six if their development goes perfectly. We have plenty of those in the system.

The crazy thing about his lack of physicality is that his uncle Sasha Lakovic was tougher than nails and racked up a ton of PIMs in his pro career.
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I think we trade up to get him at 11 or 12th OV. If not, I think he is gone before 16th OV and we likely end up with Hensler or Carter Bear. Bear's injury apparently worries some teams, there is a real possibility he drops to 16.
 
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Estimated_Prophet said:
Pronman is the biggest fraud in the undustry.

Factually he has no playing, scouting or coaching back ground at any level. He is just a writer trying to sell himself as a draft guru. Same clown that gave Romanov one of the lowest marks for physicality lol.

Pronman's rankings are entirely meaningless as I know far more than this clown does as well as most of the draft nuts on these boards do as well. People need to understand that this is no different than a bad poster's draft prediction.

He recruited posters at one point to be his "Scouts" and they "scouted" by watching highlights before the isolated, shift by shift videos were available. I am sure I am not the only one who was asked if they would join .... both him and Wheeler have awful takes but Wheeler has improved to the point where he might be able to hang with some of the better posters but he is not a pro in any respect and still has very bad takes at times. He just targeted Reschny and Reid as Habs picks in a mock draft.......an undersized LHD and an undersized forward. He claimed to be taking organizational needs into account yet picked two player types that we as an organization least need. In his mind he took a center in Reschny so "check" and another PMD as we seem to covet them in his opinion. These are both very good prospects but I would be surprised to see us draft either one, especially Reschny and there is no way in hell we take both of them and leave the first round with two below average sized players.
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There's really no coming back from describing Hutson's compete as "average" and saying he "could someday be a top 4 dman" while he's actively crushing top pairing minutes lmao
 
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koivalev said:
There's really no coming back from describing Hutson's compete as "average" and saying he "could someday be a top 4 dman" while he's actively crushing top pairing minutes lmao
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Yea his opinion and "scouting" aren't relevant but I feel like his rankings come from talking to some scouts or execs
 
Schooner Goon said:
Apparently Lakovic did interview well and was interviewed by most teams. He's probably one of the most highly skilled players and best skaters in this draft and is 6ft4. In a weak draft year like this one, it would be hard not to take a chance on him if he's still around at 16-17 and we keep both our picks. Many of the other players in that 16-17 range have 3rd iine upside and maybe middle six if their development goes perfectly. We have plenty of those in the system.

The crazy thing about his lack of physicality is that his uncle Sasha Lakovic was tougher than nails and racked up a ton of PIMs in his pro career.
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25% identify at the genetic level between a nephew and an uncle. Assuming a trait (i.e. physicality/aggressiveness) due to a single gene (big if), 1 chance out 4 only that it would be shared (less if multigenic). Basically, comparaisons between uncles and nephews are pointless.
 
Goldenhands said:
I think we trade up to get him at 11 or 12th OV. If not, I think he is gone before 16th OV and we likely end up with Hensler or Carter Bear. Bear's injury apparently worries some teams, there is a real possibility he drops to 16.
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The players you mentioned are all in the 13-16 range on Bobby Mac's latest rankings from May so getting picked at 11-12 is very plausible for any of them.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
They have no interest in Reschny
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I am not surprised (based on their draft record) but at the sametime I keep asking myself what the f*** did they see in Mesar to pick him in 2022. He just does not fit the players they are usually interested in and he was not a special case like Hutson.

Undersized, no production, playing on the perimeter, not physical. Only positive attribute for Mesar was his skating

Personally I never suggest players that I believe the Habs would be interested but the players I find interesting. In my case hockey IQ+Compete are my primary critera, the rest I don't put that much emphasis as it is usually fixable. Hence why Reschny is near the top of my list.

For the record, I project Reschny as a 2nd line center very similar to a Tomas Plekanec. A very reliable center defensively, that compete, play well on all facets, good hands, will go to the corner and get his nose dirty, win face-offs, provide offense mostly as a playmaker but he has a decent shot but he will most likely not be a prime scorer. He still need to get stronger and improve his skating but overall, one of the rare center in that draft class that project well as a true center because of his two-way game and his smarts. 60/70 pts as a ceiling but very useful in shuting down other center and provide some offense. Ideally not on your first PP but he could fill in on the 2nd PP wave.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
They have no interest in Reschny
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You don't know that. They faked the local media into believing they would take Buium at 5 last year. Three years ago they took Wright, Cooley and Lekkerimaki out to dinner but not Slaf. There are other ways to get to know these kids than at the Combine and it's clear that this Habs brass likes to sandbag and doesn't show its cards.
 
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JeffreyLFC said:
I am not surprised (based on their draft record) but at the sametime I keep asking myself what the f*** did they see in Mesar to pick him in 2022. He just does not fit the players they are usually interested in and he was not a special case like Hutson.
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I can't say I'm not surprised as he's exactly what this team needs, maybe an inch short of it, a full inch, high IQ, above average motor, above average skating, very good playmaking, 200 foot game, looking like a future center but he's an inch off?

Played insanely well as the season went on and got better and better and he's committed to the NCAA which is a plus IMO

He's most like BPA where we pick and answers a need, it's not like we also don't have two straight picks, you can easily compensate for the missing inch but grabbing a 6'1 player with the next pick and go with the safer pick.

I'm perplexed but it is what it is.
 
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Doublechin said:
I can't say I'm not surprised as he's exactly what this team needs, maybe an inch short of it, a full inch, high IQ, above average motor, above average skating, very good playmaking, 200 foot game, looking like a future center but he's an inch off?

Played insanely well as the season went on and got better and better and he's committed to the NCAA which is a plus IMO

He's most like BPA where we pick and answers a need, it's not like we also don't have two straight picks, you can easily compensate for the missing inch but grabbing a 6'1 player with the next pick and go with the safer pick.

I'm perplexed but it is what it is.
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I wouldn't write Reschny off just because they didn't interview him at the Combine. This is the lying season in the NHL.
 
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Schooner Goon said:
You don't know that. They faked the local media into believing they would take Buium at 5 last year. Three years ago they took Wright, Cooley and Lekkerimaki out to dinner but not Slaf. There are other ways to get to know these kids than at the Combine and it's clear that this Habs brass likes to sandbag and doesn't show its cards.
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I remember people coping about Michkov the same way.

Not only have they shown little interest in him, hes also a profile they've not been interested in. It's clear hes not on their radar.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
I remember people coping about Michkov the same way.

Not only have they shown little interest in him, hes also a profile they've not been interested in. It's clear hes not on their radar.
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What's the profile here that makes the team not interested?

Knowing that this organization once drafted Mesar which was way skinnier and showed nothing but raw offensive flashes.

Michkov had all kinds of drama around him and Bobrov literally had his father know him personally, it could have easily been something to do with his attitude or you know the fact that we saw him as a winger and not a center too
 
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If they go for a sub-6', I expect them to consider the player as exceptional and won't make the same mistake they made with Mesar. Those players can't play in the NHL at all if the offense doesn't pan out.
 
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Doublechin said:
What's the profile here that makes the team not interested?

Knowing that this organization once drafted Mesar which was way skinnier and showed nothing but raw offensive flashes.

Michkov had all kinds of drama around him and Bobrov literally had his father know him personally, it could have easily been something to do with his attitude or you know the fact that we saw him as a winger and not a center too
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My favorite dark horse is Prokhorov. To me, looking at the player only in a vaccuum (not the fact he plays in Russia or otherwise), he's a slam dunk to play in the NHL one day. Why? He's 6'5-6'6+, skates very well, is energetic, mean and likes hitting and hurting people. If all else fails, you have an automatic massive 4th line energy player there. He's also a big body that you can just stick in front of the net and make him stand there. He absolutely loves it there, maybe as much as anyone i've ever seen.

Even if I consider there's a chance Prokhorov plays someday higher in the lineup, I fully acknowledge Kindel has skills that seem right now much more conducive to play Top-6. Stickhandling, smarts, passing, vision, edges, etc... But you need to be absolutely sure those skills are enough to make Kindel fully translate to a Top-6 offensive game in the NHL. If not you have someone that will only help Hershey or Laval one day. If Kindel even tries playing like Prohkorov he'll have the shortest of hockey shelf life.
 
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My favorite dark horse is Prokhorov. To me, looking at the player only in a vaccuum, he's a slam dunk to play in the NHL one day. Why? He's 6'5, skates very well, is mean and likes hitting and hurting people. If all else fails, you have an automatic massive 4th line energy player there. He's also a big body that you can just stick in front of the net and make him stand there. He absolutely loves it there, maybe as much as anyone i've ever seen.

Even if I consider there's a chance Prokhorov plays someday higher in the lineup, I fully acknowledge Kindel has skills that are much conducive to play Top-6. Stickhandling, smarts, passing, vision, edges, etc... But you need to be absolutely sure those skills are enough to make him fully translate to a Top-6 offensive game in the NHL. If not you have someone that will only help Hershey or Laval one day. If he even tries playing like Prohkorov he'll have the shortest of hockey shelf life.
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I like him also but not at 16 or 17.

Maybe Habs can do a deal with Columbus trading 16 et 17 for 14 and 20, would give us more chances of getting Bear and Prohkorov at 20 is bit less of a reach.
 
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