HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II

[rien]

I swear every single f***ing mock gives us Carbonneau and it's driving me crazy. People are so f***ing lazy.

Carbonneau is a high reward propect and would be a good pick at 16.

It's f***ing lazy to assume the Habs would be interested in a prospect just because he's a Québécois and not because of his skillset.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Carbonneau being mocked to the Habs is one of the few times it's fit based due to his range and style of play.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Carbonneau is excellent value in the mid-first range IMO, regardless of his last name. Decent size, decent tools, good intangibles. We could do a lot worse.

 

[McGees]

The Athletics two round mock is out, put together by Pronman and Wheeler. They have the Habs taking:

16. Justin Carbonneau
17. Jackson Smith
41. Mason West
49. Ryker Lee

Bear, Mrtka, Aitcheson, Lakovic, and Cootes were taken prior to our first round picks.

hAbS PicK tHe gUY fRoM tHE q!

 

[ahmedou]

Meet Cole Reschny, the hottest prospect in the 2025 NHL Draft: ‘He stirs the drink’

The "professional, driven" 18-year-old from Macklin, Sask., could be the best 200-foot player available in this year's draft.

www.nytimes.com

 

[le_sean]

I swear every single f***ing mock gives us Carbonneau and it's driving me crazy. People are so f***ing lazy.

It’s not just lazy, it’s uninformed. In what world do Hughes and Gorton seem like the types to acquire players that are difficult to coach?

In fact, it reminds me of being consistently linked to another Blainville player that is talented but doesn’t fit anywhere because he’s moody, PLD.

 

[Anardil]

Every year it’s the same story in the media : next year’s draft will be better and teams are looking to trade out.

Also every year : basically no picks are traded and good players come out of the draft. Plenty of good prospects will be available at 16th and 17th. There’s even going to be good players available at the pens 2nd rounder.

The very fact that next year will be the McKenna draft makes next year's draft potentially better. We shall see.

 

[Doublechin]

Meet Cole Reschny, the hottest prospect in the 2025 NHL Draft: ‘He stirs the drink’

The "professional, driven" 18-year-old from Macklin, Sask., could be the best 200-foot player available in this year's draft.

www.nytimes.com

If the organization sees him as a center then I'm all for it

 

[TheBuriedHab]

The very fact that next year will be the McKenna draft makes next year's draft potentially better. We shall see.

Not just McKenna but Verhoeff as well.

 

[le_sean]

If the organization sees him as a center then I'm all for it

Skating concerns me for a player of his size. Basically you cross your fingers and hope he becomes a Nick Suzuki, but the chances are so slim. We see guys like this in every draft and they rarely become anything special.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

The athletics latest mock is what I'm hoping for. 3 of Carbonneau, Smith and Hensler there for us.

Also Martone sliding to 8, I'm telling you guys his pace and compete are big red flags. Could see him sliding more on draft day.

 

[Walksss]

I've been hearing Carbonneau isn't so much hard to coach as he is hard on his teammates. Apparently he gets frustrated with guys who can't keep up with how he sees the game, a tough locker room guy if you aren't performing well.

That isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially because with the Habs he'd be coming into a locker room with a surplus of hockey IQ. Interviews will be very important with this player obviously.

 

[Doublechin]

I've been hearing Carbonneau isn't so much hard to coach as he is hard on his teammates. Apparently he gets frustrated with guys who can't keep up with how he sees the game, a tough locker room guy if you aren't performing well.

That isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially because with the Habs he'd be coming into a locker room with a surplus of hockey IQ. Interviews will be very important with this player obviously.

Odd considering the biggest knock on him is that sometimes he just makes the worst desicion possible where many smart desicions are available at his disposal

 

[Seb]

Carbonneau is a high reward propect and would be a good pick at 16.

It's f***ing lazy to assume the Habs would be interested in a prospect just because he's a Québécois and not because of his skillset.

Carbonneau being mocked to the Habs is one of the few times it's fit based due to his range and style of play.

I legitimately wouldn't mind Carbonneau at all at 16 or 17, but we all know the thought process for all these mocks having the Habs picking Carbonneau. I wouldn't be frustrated if it wasn't every single one of these mock doing it.

Having a french canadian available at around the range the Habs pick makes them all think it's an obvious pick but I seriously am not sure he's the guy the Habs want at all.

 

[rahad]

Suzuki on the Barkov trajectory. Should be contending by late 20’s.

30 is still prime for hockey players. 30 is old if you’re an NFL running back.

30 is considered old in the NHL. Barely 1-5% of the player in the NHL play to 40 years old. Player like Savard retiring around 34. Camallari retired around that age also. Lot of NHl player retire around 34-37.

I'm not saying Suzuki will be a bad player at 30. But around 31-32, he will start to decline. Just like Slaf could be considered a old player by the time he reach 30 (played at 18 years old in the NHL).

If we win the Stanley cup, is possible that Nick Suzuki is our fourth best player (Demidov, Slaf, Hutson, Reinbacher, Fowler,Hage).

 

[WeThreeKings]

I legitimately wouldn't mind Carbonneau at all at 16 or 17, but we all know the thought process for all these mocks having the Habs picking Carbonneau. I wouldn't be frustrated if it wasn't every single one of these mock doing it.

Having a french canadian available at around the range the Habs pick makes them all think it's an obvious pick but I seriously am not sure he's the guy the Habs want at all.

All I know is that Lapointe has been heavily scouting him all year.

 

[Doublechin]

I legitimately wouldn't mind Carbonneau at all at 16 or 17, but we all know the thought process for all these mocks having the Habs picking Carbonneau. I wouldn't be frustrated if it wasn't every single one of these mock doing it.

Having a french canadian available at around the range the Habs pick makes them all think it's an obvious pick but I seriously am not sure he's the guy the Habs want at all.

He's too risky for me. Besides being a very good shooter, he doesn't pass, often takes the selfish shit, doesn't seem to be able to do much besides shooting on the PP, often makes the risky play and even more often does so when multiple safe plays are at his disposal.

Does fancy high risk spinoramas while entering the zone often creating 2 on ones on the other side, often takes low percentage shots while there's no traffic creating loss of possession.

Besides his dangling and shooting, he's too high risk for me, I wouldn't say he's DND but he's close to it the closer we get to the draft.

I'm not fond of high risk high reward before the late first personally unless the player has an elite attribute (Caufield shot)

 

[Seb]

All I know is that Lapointe has been heavily scouting him all year.

As he should! The opposite would be super disappointing to hear.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

All I know is that Lapointe has been heavily scouting him all year.

That can either be really good for him or really bad lol

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

30 is considered old in the NHL. Barely 1-5% of the player in the NHL play to 40 years old. Player like Savard retiring around 34. Camallari retired around that age also. Lot of NHl player retire around 34-37.

I'm not saying Suzuki will be a bad player at 30. But around 31-32, he will start to decline. Just like Slaf could be considered a old player by the time he reach 30 (played at 18 years old in the NHL).

If we win the Stanley cup, is possible that Nick Suzuki is our fourth best player (Demidov, Slaf, Hutson, Reinbacher, Fowler,Hage).

While true, Suzuki style of play lends itself to age well. He doesnt utilize speed or athleticism much. He's very cerebral. Hockey IQ doesnt age negatively. I wouldn't be surprised if he, out of everyone on the habs, is relatively more effectively in his mid 30s

 

[McGees]

He's too risky for me. Besides being a very good shooter, he doesn't pass, often takes the selfish shit, doesn't seem to be able to do much besides shooting on the PP, often makes the risky play and even more often does so when multiple safe plays are at his disposal.

Does fancy high risk spinoramas while entering the zone often creating 2 on ones on the other side, often takes low percentage shots while there's no traffic creating loss of possession.

Besides his dangling and shooting, he's too high risk for me, I wouldn't say he's DND but he's close to it the closer we get to the draft.

I'm not fond of high risk high reward before the late first personally unless the player has an elite attribute (Caufield shot)

Ya, not a fan of that blinders on, give me the puck I'll do it all myself, 1v4, style of play. MAYBE I'd take him with Pens pick but not 16/17 despite his good shot.

 

[DesmondDekker]

I've been hearing Carbonneau isn't so much hard to coach as he is hard on his teammates. Apparently he gets frustrated with guys who can't keep up with how he sees the game, a tough locker room guy if you aren't performing well.

That isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially because with the Habs he'd be coming into a locker room with a surplus of hockey IQ. Interviews will be very important with this player obviously.

On a « he’s hard on his teammates » spectrum, he is closer to a MacKinnon or a DeAngelo!?

As you said, it’s not always a bad thing, especially if the leadership is already well established among the locker room.

 

[WeThreeKings]

That can either be really good for him or really bad lol

Usually really good.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

On a « he’s hard on his teammates » spectrum, he is closer to a MacKinnon or a DeAngelo!?

As you said, it’s not always a bad thing, especially if the leadership is already well established among the locker room.

He just seems like a very emotional guy, for good and bad. His body language can be really bad when he doesn't get the puck or he's having a bad game. But he's also the first guy that will defend his teammates in a scrum. He's a very bipolar player in more than one aspect of the game.

Most of my qualms with Carbonneau stem from immaturity. If you can get him to channel his emotions in a more productive way, you can hit a real homerun. Like top 5 player of the draft type of talent. The tools he flashes are insane and I do believe he's worth the gamble.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

The Athletics two round mock is out, put together by Pronman and Wheeler. They have the Habs taking:

16. Justin Carbonneau
17. Jackson Smith
41. Mason West
49. Ryker Lee

Bear, Mrtka, Aitcheson, Lakovic, and Cootes were taken prior to our first round picks.

Every Q player is automatically assigned to us. Carbonneau is late birthday in weak league. He's over rated. Going to be a mistake. Habs really need a center.