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HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II

I have a hard time getting a read on Hensler... but in general guys that go to college tend to get devalued. I think he would be a fine pick. It's a tough league to play in as a young guy.

The interesting thing is that both those guys could be gone... I think it will get pretty wide open pretty quickly.
The tools with Hensler are just crazy. He’s a big smooth skating two-way RHD with elite 4-way mobility, gap control, and rush defense - the latter two being the best in this draft class, imo. His defensive game is just polished, and he has moderate to above average offensive upside as well. He’s a safe pick, but has a high ceiling as well. Very likely to be at least a solid top-4 defender, with a great chance to be a top pairing guy, or even a #1D if his offense continues to develop.

I think the reason why people around here aren’t sold is because they just glance at his stat line and are underwhelmed. Guys like Hutson, Buium, and Levshunov are the exception, not the rule, and he’s much better defensively than all three of these guys at the same age.

It’s hard to score in college, especially as a two-way D that prioritizes the defensive side of things. He also played on a pretty shit team, so he wasn’t going to pick up too many assists either way.

Lastly, he’s better offensively than a guy like Ryan McDonagh was at the same age; in fact, he’s better offensively than McDonagh was as a D+1.

I’d be ecstatic if the Habs could snag him at 16/17.
 
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The tools with Hensler are just crazy. He’s a big smooth skating two-way RHD with elite 4-way mobility, gap control, and rush defense - the latter two being the best in this draft class, imo. His defensive game is just polished, and he has moderate to above average offensive upside as well. He’s a safe pick, but has a high ceiling as well. Very likely to be at least a solid top-4 defender, with a great chance to be a top pairing guy, or even a #1D if his offense continues to develop.

I think the reason why people around here aren’t sold is because they just glance at his stat line and are underwhelmed. Guys like Hutson, Buium, and Levshunov are the exception, not the rule, and he’s much better defensively than all three of these guys at the same age.

It’s hard to score in college, especially as a two-way D that prioritizes the defensive side of things. He also played on a pretty shit team, so he wasn’t going to pick up too many assists either way.

Lastly, he’s better offensively than a guy like Ryan McDonagh was at the same age; in fact, he’s better offensively than McDonagh was as a D+1.

I’d be ecstatic if the Habs could snag him at 16/17.
Sounds like Reinbacher, trade up to 5 for him
 
I like Cootes better than Nesbitt, but I don't think the Habs would take Cootes. We already have Beck and Kapanen that are 200 foot right shot depth centers. They need to bring in some different elements. Preferably a lefty too since Hage is also a right shot.

Cootes has more potential to create play than Kapanen and Beck no ?
 
How much have you watched these guys? They both project as bottom-six to middle-six guys at the NHL level, if everything goes well. They both have rather pedestrian numbers and the tools aren’t all that great apart from Nesbitt’s size.

Cootes is lacking in the size, skating, hands, shot, playmaking, and overall offensive skill departments. His best areas are off-puck play (board battles, forechecking, positioning), physicality, versatility (can play all three forward positions), and defensive play. He projects as a high energy bottom-six utility forward at the NHL level. Best case is probably a guy like Adam Henrique in his prime. Most likely is a guy like Scott Laughton.

Nesbitt is an average skater, has an average shot, and average hands, playmaking, and overall offensive skill. He’s lacking in terms of speed, and high-end skill. Best areas are physicality and off-puck play, but not to the same extent as Cootes. And size - that’s honestly his most alluring attribute, but his lack of anything else high end really limits his upside, imo. And in contrast to Cootes above, he doesn’t seem to play with all that much pace or energy. He’s not crazy dominant physically even at the junior level either.

Could either of them develop unexpectedly and become a top-six player? Sure, but you can say that about any prospect, and I don’t think it’s very likely with either of these two.

I’d hate both as our pick at 16/17, tbh. To me, these are guys you’d take late 1st round or even early 2nd.

Barely watch, more reading might start to watch soon, that's why I was asking cause from what I've read, they look kinda promising as top 6/9 guys that's bring more than points come playoff time
 
Everyone in this thread ends up falling in love with some prospect that everyone has listed in the later rounds and hopes the Habs draft him. Henry Brzustewick is that guy for me this year. I really hope we get him with the early second/trade up into late first to secure him.
 
I like this draft and think Montreal should keep both picks. I also think they should move down with one of the firsts to move up with one of the second picks.
 
Year end prospect rankings:

  1. Ivan Demidov
  2. David Reinbacher
  3. Jacob Fowler
  4. Michael Hage
  5. Oliver Kapanen
  6. Adam Engstrom
  7. Owen Beck
  8. Logan Mailloux
  9. Florian Xhekaj
  10. Yevgeni Volokhin
  11. Jakub Dobes
  12. Joshua Roy
  13. Sean Farrell
  14. Bogan Konyushkov
  15. Jared Davidson
  16. Vinzenz Rohrer
  17. Tyler Thorpe
  18. Filip Mesar
  19. Luke Tuch
  20. Filip Eriksson
  21. Sam Harris
  22. Logan Sawyer
  23. William Trudeau
  24. Owen Protz
  25. Rasmus Bergqvist
  26. Aatos Koivu
  27. Riley Kidney
  28. Quentin Miller
  29. Ben Merrill
  30. Makar Khanin
  31. Mikus Vecvanags
  32. Luke Mittelstadt
  33. Emmett Croteau
  34. Alexander Gordin
  35. Dmitri Kostenko
  36. Daniil Sobolev
  37. Jack Smith

Not ranked: Lucas Condotta (27 years old); Rafael Harvey-Pinard (waiver eligible), Emil Heineman (graduated); Lane Hutson (graduated); Cayden Primeau (waiver eligible);

I disagree with the bolded part, Volokhin just had a very impressive season as a 19 yrs old kid in the 2nd best league in the world, facing a ton of shots and high end scoring chances on a pretty weak team. Some games he was the only reason why Sochi still was alive... He is pretty consistent in the net, rarely giving up weak goals. Im no goaltenders expert, but technically he looks great, compact and his compete level top notch.

I do believe that we have 3 bluechip goaltending prospects, now who ends up as the best one? Impossible to say at that point, but I would say all 3 have incredible potential and could end up as impactful NHL starters.

One of the 3 will be traded down the road, but thats just incredible value picks in the mid rounds. We have guys who know what they are doing...

I'm curious about our organizational needs. Everyone seems to assume it's C & RD... I'm not so sure.

I think more than anything we need some more big game players... and probably another special talent. More size and grit would be great too.

I could see us swinging for the fences a bit.

Ryabkin would be a great fit if they like him. Spence too. Aitcheson? Wang? Carbonneau is dripping with skill... but I'm not sure his head is on straight...

I think it's time for the Habs to really put their development pipeline to the test. Get to work guru Bobrov.
 

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