HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II

[crosbyshow]

Repeat after me.


5.10 IS NOT small for a forward !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Vachon23]

Maybe in the third round.Mateo Nobert center,6’1’’
One of the youngest prospects in the draft



QMJHL: Mateo Nobert - Neutral Zone - Men'sView attachment 1015910

I would take a chance on him in the 3rd round

 

[Playmaker09]

How in hell you made these lines? Are these future or current lines?

Say 2 years from now when all of Laine, Anderson, Gallagher, Matheson, Dvorak, Armia are gone.

The entire middle 6 needs an overhaul of skill and compete.

 

[Nevins]

Say 2 years from now when all of Laine, Anderson, Gallagher, Matheson, Dvorak, Armia are gone.

The entire middle 6 needs an overhaul of skill and compete.

Heineman- Newhook- Dach
Xhekaj- Beck- Kapanen/Tuch/ Thorpe

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Say 2 years from now when all of Laine, Anderson, Gallagher, Matheson, Dvorak, Armia are gone.

The entire middle 6 needs an overhaul of skill and compete.

2 years from now is an eternity in hockey. Free agent, trades, draft pick, prospect are not set in stone. Not to mention possible expansion draft that could also affect the whole squad dynamic.

I can tell you that Hage will be part of the future top 6 until he is traded (and if he is traded) so you should include him in the future top 6 player.

Newhook, Dach as far as we know and until they are traded will be part of the team. Then you have like 10 players that will all compete for the bottom 6.

Same with defenseman. I doubt we trade away Mailloux unless we get another defenseman in return.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Heineman- Newhook- Dach
Xhekaj- Beck- Kapanen/Tuch/ Thorpe

Yes, and possible long shot like Roy, Mesar, Davidson, Farrell, Tuch, etc

 

[Doublechin]

Its pretty obvious we're not 1-2 players away from a cup as is. The 2nd line needs a complete revamp around Demidov and the 3rd line will be off the team in 2 years or less (Gallagher, Dvorak, Anderson). Then there's a major piece at RD that needs to be added as well.

Make the picks to add two forwards to the pipeline and trade Hage/Mailloux/Roy/Matheson + future 1sts for a RD (Andersson, Pulock, Nemec) and either a 2C (Rossi, Helenius) or a two-way top 6 W like Benson if Demidov transitions to C. Also try to swap Newhook for a more prototypical 3rd line player (Ohgren, Ritchie).

As of right now I see:

Slaf - Suzuki - Cole
XXX - XXX - Demidov
XXX - XXX - Dach
Heineman - Evans - Beck
Kapanen, Xhekaj

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - XXX
Xhekaj - Carrier
Struble, Engstrom

We can fill some of the holes with short-term UFAs for now, but we need to make some picks. Hopefully, we also add a couple of RD in the 2nd/3rd rounds.

Where's Anderson? Gallagher?

Why get rid of Newhook instead of Dach?

Where's Laine?

So you're letting Dvorak and Armia walk, sure and then magically trading Anderson, Gallagher, Laine and Newhook

That's too many vets being dumped after this run, makes zero sense

The goal is to progress now not dig deeper and go back into a rebuild

Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Newhook - XXX - Demidov
Anderson - Evans - Gallagher
Heineman - Beck - Kapanen/Xekhaj

This is assuming I can move Dach and Laine but they're expandable IMO

My defense would ideally be

Hutson - Guhle
Reinbacher - Matheson
Carrier - Gavrikov (UFA target)
Struble/Xekhaj

If I can sign Gavrikov then I'm trading one of Struble or X

 

[Playmaker09]

Heineman- Newhook- Dach
Xhekaj- Beck- Kapanen/Tuch/ Thorpe

2 years from now is an eternity in hockey. Free agent, trades, draft pick, prospect are not set in stone. Not to mention possible expansion draft that could also affect the whole squad dynamic.

I can tell you that Hage will be part of the future top 6 until he is traded (and if he is traded) so you should include him in the future top 6 player.

Newhook, Dach as far as we know and until they are traded will be part of the team. Then you have like 10 players that will all compete for the bottom 6.

Same with defenseman. I doubt we trade away Mailloux unless we get another defenseman in return.

Yes, and possible long shot like Roy, Mesar, Davidson, Farrell, Tuch, etc

Most of this is just typical HF homerism. I can't count how many times over the years we've had "one of the deepest prospect pools in the league" only to have little to none of them pan out.

We still lack quality, especially up front, and those picks will go a long way towards amending that. I'll also believe we can bring in a core UFA when I see it. I'd rather have a plan with players already in the system and if we're fortunate enough to land a big fish, that's a bonus. But making UFA a major part of the plan moving forward is just banking on hope, and poor planning.

As for Hage, he's another player in the mold of Newhook and Mesar. Pure rush scorer who's a complete liablity defensively, weak on the puck and poor in the FO circle. Not my type of players and not players who have been historically a part of Stanley Cup champions. The one thing Hage has going for him is his bigger frame, but he's probably the softest of all of them and the most dependant on the PP to produce, which he won't have access to in the NHL. He's a prime trade asset for me.

Where's Anderson? Gallagher?

Why get rid of Newhook instead of Dach?

Where's Laine?

So you're letting Dvorak and Armia walk, sure and then magically trading Anderson, Gallagher, Laine and Newhook

That's too many vets being dumped after this run, makes zero sense

The goal is to progress now not dig deeper and go back into a rebuild

Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Newhook - XXX - Demidov
Anderson - Evans - Gallagher
Heineman - Beck - Kapanen/Xekhaj

This is assuming I can move Dach and Laine but they're expandable IMO

My defense would ideally be

Hutson - Guhle
Reinbacher - Matheson
Carrier - Gavrikov (UFA target)
Struble/Xekhaj

If I can sign Gavrikov then I'm trading one of Struble or X

It's not next year, it's a medium-term outlook.

I also don't see a valuable playoff contributor in Newhook. He's a small, offense-only, rush scorer who doesn't bring enough offense to justify the negatives and can't play C at 42% in the circle. Colorado understood this, and so will we shortly.

Dach at least has a projection of a strong possession player, even if on the wing. And if he can't overcome the injuries, then get rid of him too by all means, but that's yet another hole to fill.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Most of this is just typical HF homerism. I can't count how many times over the years we've had "one of the deepest prospect pools in the league" only to have little to none of them pan out.

We still lack quality, especially up front, and those picks will go a long way towards amending that. I'll also believe we can bring in a core UFA when I see it. I'd rather have a plan with players already in the system and if we're fortunate enough to land a big fish, that's a bonus. But making UFA a major part of the plan moving forward is just banking on hope, and poor planning.

As for Hage, he's another player in the mold of Newhook and Mesar. Pure rush scorer who's a complete liablity defensively, weak on the puck and poor in the FO circle. Not my type of players and not players who have been historically a part of Stanley Cup champions. The one thing Hage has going for him is his bigger frame, but he's probably the softest of all of them and the most dependant on the PP to produce, which he won't have access to in the NHL. He's a prime trade asset for me.



It's not next year, it's a medium-term outlook.

I also don't see a valuable playoff contributor in Newhook. He's a small, offense-only, rush scorer who doesn't bring enough offense to justify the negatives and can't play C at 42% in the circle. Colorado understood this, and so will we shortly.

Dach at least has a projection of a strong possession player, even if on the wing. And if he can't overcome the injuries, then get rid of him too by all means, but that's yet another hole to fill.

I am sorry but it's hard to take your opinion seriously if you start by calling out other about homerism while I just pointed out the prospect depth. I never insunated they would all make it or even claimed they should be included. If they are within the system they have a chance to reach the NHL. It does not mean that they will play for us in 5 years.

If you told me 5 years ago that out of KK, Poehling, Evans the only player that would still play for the habs would be Jake Evans I would laughed at that too. The reality is that nobody know how players progress and what can happen in the next 4 years. Or that Suzuki would be our best center since Damphousse, it would also might have sounded too optimistic.

I find your opinion toward Hage as very negative and far from my view of his play. I also question if he could become a center in the NHL but I have little doubt that he will be an NHL player most likely as a winger in a top 6 role. His tools are elite and he is very smart with the puck. You criticisn about his defensive play and commitment are quite similar to what people said about Caufield when he was playing for Wisonsin. I would say he has progressed very well and I think Hage will have a similar development path. He certainly has the talent to play in the NHL and to me trading him away would be a huge blunder.

 

[26Mats]

Remembering we got Guhle and Caufield around 16, plus Hage 21, really looking forward to seeing what HuGo can do with our two 1sts.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Cole Reschny what a player. That's the post.

I like him a lot, too. He'll probably be there at our own pick if we haven't traded it.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Going to update my list now that we made the playoffs, as Mrtka and Bear are likely now going to be out of reach for us.

For the first pick: Hensler or Lakovic

If we somehow got both, I’d be over the moon, but I don’t see that happening, although it’s possible depending on where our 2nd pick falls.

2nd pick: the remaining player of the first two, or one of Reschny or Kindel.

 

[Scotianhab]

Going to update my list now that we made the playoffs, as Mrtka and Bear are likely now going to be out of reach for us.

For the first pick: Hensler or Lakovic

If we somehow got both, I’d be over the moon, but I don’t see that happening, although it’s possible depending on where our 2nd pick falls.

2nd pick: the remaining player of the first two, or one of Reschny or Kindel.

Isint Reschny a 2nd/3rd rounder

 

[Garbageyuk]

Isint Reschny a 2nd/3rd rounder

First of all, no, because the draft hasn’t happened yet.

Secondly, he is ranked by most sources/publications between 20 and 25, and is expected to go in that range.

Button has him 11th overall - make of that what you will.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

First of all, no, because the draft hasn’t happened yet.

Secondly, he is ranked by most sources/publications between 20 and 25, and is expected to go in that range.

Button has him 11th overall - make of that what you will.

Agreed with point one, though Reschny seems exactly the type of player to slide into day 2 even with a dearth of talent in the first round's latter half.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Agreed with point one, though Reschny seems exactly the type of player to slide into day 2 even with a dearth of talent in the first round's latter half.

That could very well be. Similar to how Cristall slid in ‘23.

 

[bleuetbio]

That could very well be. Similar to how Cristall slid in ‘23.

Cristall was someone seen even in the top 10 in the beginning of the season and drop a lot. Clinch players generally not fallers when they get success. Reschny is simply the most productive by a fair margin and he dont gets that overager that justify big stats. Trembecky best season was 20 points before this year.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Most of this is just typical HF homerism. I can't count how many times over the years we've had "one of the deepest prospect pools in the league" only to have little to none of them pan out.

We still lack quality, especially up front, and those picks will go a long way towards amending that. I'll also believe we can bring in a core UFA when I see it. I'd rather have a plan with players already in the system and if we're fortunate enough to land a big fish, that's a bonus. But making UFA a major part of the plan moving forward is just banking on hope, and poor planning.

As for Hage, he's another player in the mold of Newhook and Mesar. Pure rush scorer who's a complete liablity defensively, weak on the puck and poor in the FO circle. Not my type of players and not players who have been historically a part of Stanley Cup champions. The one thing Hage has going for him is his bigger frame, but he's probably the softest of all of them and the most dependant on the PP to produce, which he won't have access to in the NHL. He's a prime trade asset for me.



It's not next year, it's a medium-term outlook.

I also don't see a valuable playoff contributor in Newhook. He's a small, offense-only, rush scorer who doesn't bring enough offense to justify the negatives and can't play C at 42% in the circle. Colorado understood this, and so will we shortly.

Dach at least has a projection of a strong possession player, even if on the wing. And if he can't overcome the injuries, then get rid of him too by all means, but that's yet another hole to fill.

Hage profiles a lot like Jordan Kyrou, I'll take a guy like that on my team in the playoffs any day, even if it's at wing.

Obviously biggest need is a big 2-way 2nd line LHC. Would love to trade up for Frondell if there's any possibility.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

May as well start doing prospect comparisons for our pick:

Spence or Zonnon?
Kindel or Reschny?
Hensler or Aitcheson?

 

[le_sean]

If they keep both picks, I could see Hensler and Spence added to the prospect pool. It’ll be like the last draft Gorton and Bobrov worked together on with the Rangers, drafting Braden Schneider and Will Cuylle. If you think you have your foundation set up, it’s time to add the very strong "complimentary" players in your system.

 

[WeThreeKings]

If they keep both picks, I could see Hensler and Spence added to the prospect pool. It’ll be like the last draft Gorton and Bobrov worked together on with the Rangers, drafting Braden Schneider and Will Cuylle. If you think you have your foundation set up, it’s time to add the very strong "complimentary" players in your system.

I think they'd like Fiddler over Hensler, but that's just me. There's way more untapped in Fiddler.

 

[CHwest]

I think they'd like Fiddler over Hensler, but that's just me. There's way more untapped in Fiddler.

A righty as well.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Martin is my main wish in the mid-first, with Bear a close second, even with the injury concerns. Potter would be real nice as well, he's very underrated. Spence I've liked quite a lot too, since his rookie season in the OHL. I'm going all motor this year, in short

 

[MarkovsKnee]

A righty as well.

Hensler & Fiddler are both righties.

 

[covfefe]

I think Brzustewicz will be a complete beast next year and would really like to see us take him. He's been asked to play everything from #1-#5 this year and he's done well in just about every instance. I like how adaptable/intelligent he is and he really likes to mix it up, which is something I think we need to continue to add.

I have him ahead of Fiddler for those + a few other reasons. There seems to be some reflection of that in the media lately, but we'll see how everyone's final rankings shake out.