2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

[hohosaregood]

boston probably goes with a forward too

 

[Harbessix]

I can’t imagine any team choosing 1st overall considers positional need or debates forward or defence. Not selecting Schaeffer would be insane. He’s the best available player and it would be foolish for Chicago or Buffalo or whoever to pass on him.

 

[Lebanezer]

I can’t imagine any team choosing 1st overall considers positional need or debates forward or defence. Not selecting Schaeffer would be insane. He’s the best available player and it would be foolish for Chicago or Buffalo or whoever to pass on him.

The injury threw everything off. If Schaefer had stayed healthy and dominated then I don't know if there's much debate at all over who goes #1.

 

[Harbessix]

The injury threw everything off. If Schaefer had stayed healthy and dominated then I don't know if there's much debate at all over who goes #1.

I don’t think the injury matters unless there’s concern it could be a chronic problem, similar to Cayden Lindstrom last year and Roger McQueen. A broken collarbone doesn’t seem as serious as back issues. When Schaeffer did play he was consistently the best player. Assuming the medical reports check out he should be the pick all day.

 

[Lebanezer]

I don’t think the injury matters unless there’s concern it could be a chronic problem, similar to Cayden Lindstrom last year and Roger McQueen. A broken collarbone doesn’t seem as serious as back issues. When Schaeffer did play he was consistently the best player. Assuming the medical reports check out he should be the pick all day.

I think teams not being able to watch him, they get infatuated with the guys they can watch. I'm curious to see Bob Mckenzie's final rankings, because he'll talk to executives and get some kind of consensus. I don't expect Schaefer to be anywhere close to unanimously the top pick.

 

[sampler]

I think teams not being able to watch him, they get infatuated with the guys they can watch. I'm curious to see Bob Mckenzie's final rankings, because he'll talk to executives and get some kind of consensus. I don't expect Schaefer to be anywhere close to unanimously the top pick.

I think Schaefer will be #1 unanymous in large part because Misa stumbled in the POs, Martone has fallen out of #1 contention and hagens seems to as well. Seems to me that Misa was the only real #1 contender but his PO performance hurts that alot.

Who knows! I just hope the sharks get schaefer as they could really use one more top end D prospect alongside dick. Pohlcamp, Cagnoni, Thompson, and Mukh are intriguing but im not sure any of them are future top pairing guys. Be nice to get another one of those in the system.

 

[one2gamble]

I don’t think the injury matters unless there’s concern it could be a chronic problem, similar to Cayden Lindstrom last year and Roger McQueen. A broken collarbone doesn’t seem as serious as back issues. When Schaeffer did play he was consistently the best player. Assuming the medical reports check out he should be the pick all day.

He didn't start as the consensus #1. It matters because almost everyone else played their way out of the #1 spot.

 

[MackAttack71]

I think Schaefer will be #1 unanymous in large part because Misa stumbled in the POs, Martone has fallen out of #1 contention and hagens seems to as well. Seems to me that Misa was the only real #1 contender but his PO performance hurts that alot.

Who knows! I just hope the sharks get schaefer as they could really use one more top end D prospect alongside dick. Pohlcamp, Cagnoni, Thompson, and Mukh are intriguing but im not sure any of them are future top pairing guys. Be nice to get another one of those in the system.

No Dickinson on your list?

 

[Gecklund]

No Dickinson on your list?

Literally right before your bold started.

 

[CanadienShark]

Misa. I'm even tempted by him at #1, but would still go Schaefer.

 

[Lebanezer]

Literally right before your bold started.

You have to capitalize names or you will be infracted.

 

[YUPPY]

Besides the #1 pick, the Sharks also hold the #28 selection. If it's not traded, who should the Sharks target, given their organizational needs—particularly on defense and in goal?

 

[coooldude]

Besides the #1 pick, the Sharks also hold the #28 selection. If it's not traded, who should the Sharks target, given their organizational needs—particularly on defense and in goal?

There should be a few big RDs available there. We just need some bodies who might become bottom or middle pair. Amico, Fiddler, Limatov (LD). Admittedly I haven't been as on top of the mid to late round this year vs last.

I also think it's a toss up whether we use the pick or package it in a trade.

 

[Juxtaposer]

A list of dudes I want at 28th and 33rd:

Unlikely:
Malcolm Spence
Blake Fiddler
Kashawn Aitcheson
Braeden Cootes

Realistic:
Cole McKinney
Henry Brzustewicz
Carter Amico
Bill Zonnon
Shane Vansaghi
Ben Kindel
Jack Murtagh
Cameron Schmidt

There are a bunch of RHD candidates that seem appropriate for the Sens' 2nd down in the early 50's too, I kinda like having a pick there:

Charlie Trethewey
Sean Barnhill
Quinn Beauchesne
David Bedkowski
Peyton Kettles
Carlos Handal
Alex Huang

And of course Luca Radivojevic and Anthony Cristoforo would be good mid-round shots.

In the end, I wonder how high these guys will go. The RHD premium seems more intense these days, as I genuinely can't find more than 50 actually decent RHD in the NHL right now.

 

[YUPPY]

There should be a few big RDs available there. We just need some bodies who might become bottom or middle pair. Amico, Fiddler, Limatov (LD). Admittedly I haven't been as on top of the mid to late round this year vs last.

I also think it's a toss up whether we use the pick or package it in a trade.

search for Defense and Forwards rd 1-4 and goalies for round 5-7

Rank	Name	Readiness	Notes
	Pyotr Andreyanov	★★★★☆ (2–3 yrs)	Best numbers, mature play
	Alexei Medvedev	★★★☆☆ (3–4 yrs)	Strong OHL season
	Semyon Frolov	★★★☆☆ (3–4 yrs)	Great tools, small sample
	Jack Ivankovic	★★☆☆☆ (3–5 yrs)	Smaller, quick goalie
	Joshua Ravensbergen	★★☆☆☆ (4–5 yrs)	Huge frame, needs polish, 6'5 frame
	Love Härenstam	★☆☆☆☆ (5+ yrs)	Developmental project

 

[NiWa]

A list of dudes I want at 28th and 33rd:

Unlikely:
Malcolm Spence
Blake Fiddler
Kashawn Aitcheson
Braeden Cootes

Realistic:
Cole McKinney
Henry Brzustewicz
Carter Amico
Bill Zonnon
Shane Vansaghi
Ben Kindel
Jack Murtagh
Cameron Schmidt

There are a bunch of RHD candidates that seem appropriate for the Sens' 2nd down in the early 50's too, I kinda like having a pick there:

Charlie Trethewey
Sean Barnhill
Quinn Beauchesne
David Bedkowski
Peyton Kettles
Carlos Handal
Alex Huang

And of course Luca Radivojevic and Anthony Cristoforo would be good mid-round shots.

In the end, I wonder how high these guys will go. The RHD premium seems more intense these days, as I genuinely can't find more than 50 actually decent RHD in the NHL right now.

I think if we missed out on Schaefer, we'll have picked a forward so as previously discussed, you'd want to look at trade up options if Hensler is still around in the 20 range.
Otherwise, Fiddler would be good value.

From the smaller forwards, I really dig Kindel's profile.

Amico or Tretheway would be great picks for the Sens range. Barnhill, Kettles, Huang also decent but slightly lower.

Outside of the RHD's you mentioned, there's also Maxim Agafonov, Max Psenicka, Karl Annborn, Roman Bausov, Carson Cameron. All on McKenzie's list (except Cameron) as possibly darts for the Colorado pick in the 3rd, or our two 4ths.

 

[hohosaregood]

A list of dudes I want at 28th and 33rd:

Unlikely:
Malcolm Spence
Blake Fiddler
Kashawn Aitcheson
Braeden Cootes

Realistic:
Cole McKinney
Henry Brzustewicz
Carter Amico
Bill Zonnon
Shane Vansaghi
Ben Kindel
Jack Murtagh
Cameron Schmidt

There are a bunch of RHD candidates that seem appropriate for the Sens' 2nd down in the early 50's too, I kinda like having a pick there:

Charlie Trethewey
Sean Barnhill
Quinn Beauchesne
David Bedkowski
Peyton Kettles
Carlos Handal
Alex Huang

And of course Luca Radivojevic and Anthony Cristoforo would be good mid-round shots.

In the end, I wonder how high these guys will go. The RHD premium seems more intense these days, as I genuinely can't find more than 50 actually decent RHD in the NHL right now.

I think I'd try to use the OTT 2nd to trade up for a chance at Aitcheson personally.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I think I'd try to use the OTT 2nd to trade up for a chance at Aitcheson personally.

I like Aitcheson but not enough to move up for him.

 

[Grinner]

Nesbitt with the Dallas pick
Bedkowski is someone I mentioned before with the Sens pick
I'm undecided with what do do or whom to pick, with our own 2nd

 

[sampler]

It definitely depends on the lottery. if they win and get Schaefer, I expect their try to get another forward with reasonable size. Might also package 33+51 to get into the low/mid 20s and get one more D with size. Fiddler and Murtaugh for example. Both are summer 2007 borns, so extremely young for their draft year. I suppose that makes the development take a little longer, but important when comparing to a Zannon who is nearly a year older.

If they lose the lottery and grab Misa or Martone, I expect they will go for 2-3 Dmen with 30, 33, and 51. possibly trading 51 to move up to the mid 20's. Fiddler, Hensler, Aitcheson, tretheway. Again, I like Fiddler and Trethaway for size and age, but that's my expecation.

After all, if they lose the lottery, they get a surefire top 6F, so they would want to take a few shots at a top 4D chance. if they win the lottery, they get a surefire top 4D, so they would want to add more forwards, though I could see them target a D with one of 30, 33, or 51 even ifthey win the lottery.

I think it all depends on ping pong balls.... and trades that present themselves.

 

[WSS11]

A list of dudes I want at 28th and 33rd:

Unlikely:
Malcolm Spence
Blake Fiddler
Kashawn Aitcheson
Braeden Cootes

Realistic:
Cole McKinney
Henry Brzustewicz
Carter Amico
Bill Zonnon
Shane Vansaghi
Ben Kindel
Jack Murtagh
Cameron Schmidt

There are a bunch of RHD candidates that seem appropriate for the Sens' 2nd down in the early 50's too, I kinda like having a pick there:

Charlie Trethewey
Sean Barnhill
Quinn Beauchesne
David Bedkowski
Peyton Kettles
Carlos Handal
Alex Huang

And of course Luca Radivojevic and Anthony Cristoforo would be good mid-round shots.

In the end, I wonder how high these guys will go. The RHD premium seems more intense these days, as I genuinely can't find more than 50 actually decent RHD in the NHL right now.

I haven’t followed this prospect class nearly as closely as I have others in the past and I know you definitely do your homework. Curious of your opinion on Hensler? It seems like his stock dropped way off over the course of a year. Is he just not as good as scouts once thought? Is he worth trading up for since he’s a RD?

 

[Juxtaposer]

Nesbitt with the Dallas pick
Bedkowski is someone I mentioned before with the Sens pick
I'm undecided with what do do or whom to pick, with our own 2nd

What do you like about Nesbitt?

I haven’t followed this prospect class nearly as closely as I have others in the past and I know you definitely do your homework. Curious of your opinion on Hensler? It seems like his stock dropped way off over the course of a year. Is he just not as good as scouts once thought? Is he worth trading up for since he’s a RD?

If Hensler is available in the late teens, I would try and move up for him.

He's actually played pretty well in the second half, but I think his perceived upside looks pretty capped at middle-pairing. He'll still go in the teens because he's a RHD with good size and skating and those types always go early. If he was a lefty, he probably doesn't go in the first round, because decent middle-pairing LHD are a dime a dozen.

 

[Friday]

Hawks with a win just now. Nice cushion

 

[Grinner]

What do you like about Nesbitt?


If Hensler is available in the late teens, I would try and move up for him.

He's actually played pretty well in the second half, but I think his perceived upside looks pretty capped at middle-pairing. He'll still go in the teens because he's a RHD with good size and skating and those types always go early. If he was a lefty, he probably doesn't go in the first round, because decent middle-pairing LHD are a dime a dozen.

What do you like about Nesbitt?


If Hensler is available in the late teens, I would try and move up for him.

He's actually played pretty well in the second half, but I think his perceived upside looks pretty capped at middle-pairing. He'll still go in the teens because he's a RHD with good size and skating and those types always go early. If he was a lefty, he probably doesn't go in the first round, because decent middle-pairing LHD are a dime a dozen.

Yes, he would hopefully fill a real need

 

[coooldude]

Hawks with a win just now. Nice cushion

Huge deal. Magic number now at 9, with 6 games to go for the sharks and 5 for the Hawks. Actually at 8 because of the tiebreaker situation, I think. So four Sharks losses OR Hawks wins and we've clinched worst.