NFL GDT: 2025 NFL DRAFT Thread

[TheGreenTBer]

I guess, but with these picks Jaguars could've got Graham, Revel and then whoever they pick next year. They have a lot of holes in defense now. But yeah hopefully Hunter will be a star, those are fun to follow

It's certainly a gamble. They're gambling that they are a playoff team in a weak division. However, as you stayed, they have needs everywhere.

Hunter is a CB first and foremost, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

 

[Romang67]

It's certainly a gamble. They're gambling that they are a playoff team in a weak division. However, as you stayed, they have needs everywhere.

Hunter is a CB first and foremost, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

They are also gambling that their offensive line doesn't get Lawrence injured again.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

They are also gambling that their offensive line doesn't get Lawrence injured again.

Bengals fan here, offensive lineman are a myth, fake news

 

[Romang67]

Bengals fan here, offensive lineman are a myth, fake news

How do you feel about the Shemar Stewart pick?

 

[TheGreenTBer]

How do you feel about the Shemar Stewart pick?

He's either going to dominate or be out of the league in 3 years. It's a full bore homer-or-whiff and I do not trust this bare-bones operation to develop him.

I've wanted to trade Higgins for draft capital to invest in the trenches and also do everything to have signed Henderson ahead of time. But that's what a serious organization would do and the Bengals are not a serious organization. Do the bare minimum to sell tickets and nothing more. OL is far more important than a WR2 and so is DL.

 

[The Note]

If you’re the team though, you’re not thinking that. You were 31st in the league in sacks and were in the mix in week 17. They were basically 2 plays from being in the playoffs, so if you believe in yourself, your pick is going to be in the 20’s.

That’s sort of like when people freaked out when the Texans traded for Will Anderson. Everyone thought their pick would be top 5, not 27th.

Fair enough. If it works, you’re right it’s all gravy. I just maintain a healthy dose of skepticism that the Falcons will be able to effectively land this plane given everything about the Atlanta Falcons.

 

[Voight]

Hunter playing both positions might work for a season but I don't see him doing it long term.

 

[GKJ]

They restart at 7 or 8 tonight?

 

[Mrfenn92]

They restart at 7 or 8 tonight?

7 eastern

 

[Voight]

Marino?

I guess I wouldn't rule it out as you never quite know who just gets NFL speed, and who keeps grinding and grinding at getting better through the bad and the good... but it's gonna be uphill.

Like I don't know quite for sure, I wasn't a fan then, but as far as I know everyone knew Marino and Rodgers had big talent but fell because of character concerns and some stuff that needed cleaned up. Yeah, some of Sanders' stuff is talent, but it's basically the mock drafts catching onto what the big boards and prospect evaluators were saying all along - Sanders doesn't really have top end talent.

Didn't the whole "character issues" stuff for Marino come from a fake story that he used cocaine and liked to party?

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Didn't the whole "character issues" stuff for Marino come from a fake story that he used cocaine and liked to party?

Tyrone Biggums drafted top of 2nd round confirmed

 

[Tony Romo]

like at least trade for Breece Hall today

 

[StreetHawk]

Fair enough. If it works, you’re right it’s all gravy. I just maintain a healthy dose of skepticism that the Falcons will be able to effectively land this plane given everything about the Atlanta Falcons.

Falcons own pick this year was 15. If they finish in around that or better, I think it ends up being a push. Jax is the greater risk, but got the higher end talent.

Both Jax and ATL in weaker divisions with 1 other good team (Hou and TB). NO/CAR and IND/TEN have questions at QB.

 

[StreetHawk]

Hunter playing both positions might work for a season but I don't see him doing it long term.

Not for a lot of reps on O. Like 10-15 (max). Guy also needs to practice to get his timing down with the QB. QBs are throwing to a spot, not waiting til you get open. So, he has to nail his release. He's not a pure gadget guy who is mainly jet sweeps. He's not built like Deebo. Anything downfield will need timing.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Not for a lot of reps on O. Like 10-15 (max). Guy also needs to practice to get his timing down with the QB. QBs are throwing to a spot, not waiting til you get open. So, he has to nail his release. He's not a pure gadget guy who is mainly jet sweeps. He's not built like Deebo. Anything downfield will need timing.

Agreed entirely.

If he thinks he's playing every snap on both sides of the ball he's delusional. He wouldn't even survive to reach his second contract.

 

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[Romang67]

^

Trevor Sikkema at the NFL Stock Exchange podcasts theorized that the Browns might just not get a QB this year and then either pick a QB really high next year with their own pick, or use the extra capital they've gotten to trade up.

Related, Trevor Sikkema is really the only guy on the PFF Youtube channel who doesn't have the charisma of a wooden spoon at this point. I just don't tune in any more because everyone else just annoys me.

 

[kabidjan18]

Dart played in the SEC. He played with the big boys. He can get balls into spots, which is a lot more preferential than a quarterback who has to learn that throws that they don't think are there in college are the ones you have to make in the NFL. That's a problem all of the Alabama QB's had. But unlike them (except Hurts), he runs, so that is an extra element. You can see why evaluators would have him ahead of Shadeur, and it wouldn't shock me if he's better than Ward, but I don't think he maxes out at a higher level than someone like Justin Herbert.

I think Dart is excellent at getting the 4-8 yard runs that are not eye-popping but are a value play. Like, people criticize his top speed and acceleration, and those are all fair, I don't think he'll break off many 40 yard runs, but the NFL is trending towards quarterbacks that can get you to 2nd and 5 instead of 2nd and 10. And Shedeur is just not that, Ward even is really not that. Dart is not the fastest or most athletic quarterback in the draft but he has good running vision and he is willing to move the ball. He's not Josh Allen, but neither is Shedeur Joe Burrow. I think it's a good pick.

 

[GKJ]

I think Dart is excellent at getting the 4-8 yard runs that are not eye-popping but are a value play. Like, people criticize his top speed and acceleration, and those are all fair, I don't think he'll break off many 40 yard runs, but the NFL is trending towards quarterbacks that can get you to 2nd and 5 instead of 2nd and 10. And Shedeur is just not that, Ward even is really not that. Dart is not the fastest or most athletic quarterback in the draft but he has good running vision and he is willing to move the ball. He's not Josh Allen, but neither is Shedeur Joe Burrow. I think it's a good pick.

In a weak draft I’d say it’s probably fine for a QB needy team. He is a different QB.

I don’t think Shadeur’s real problem is his attitude or whatever. If he had the measurables, that would’ve been ignored. But because it’s both, it’s hurting him more.

 

[LT]

Not sure who I want the Texans to take at 34

Any OL might be a bit of a reach, although I like Ersery

Burden didn't impress me much this year, and the effort concerns seem valid. I guess I'd trust them if they go that route, though

 

[GKJ]

 

[EpochLink]

Raiders needs: WR/LB/DB/OL

I would strongly hope they nab a WR in round 2

 

[EpochLink]

 

[StreetHawk]

Raiders needs: WR/LB/DB/OL

I would strongly hope they nab a WR in round 2

Sadly, no one elite at those positions at #6, thus Jeanty. Will Johnson, do wonder what the issue is with his knee to scare off former HC Harbaugh who had him as a So. He'd likely have the full inside info and he passed, while needing a CB.

OL, LV seems to have some contract issues with Miller. He's 29 so is young enough for another contract that gives him $40 some mill of guaranteed money. Or they see someone who can take his spot and thus have a cheaper option at OT.

WR, no game changer. LB, only 1 went in Rd 1. That's a position group overall that hasn't had a boatload of guys drafted in the top 40 in recent drafts.

If it was just Talent, take Will Johnson, but the knee issue seems to be a major concern.

 

[TheBeard]

If it was just Talent, take Will Johnson, but the knee issue seems to be a major concern.

The fact the entire league wasn't willing to take a chance on who could be the best CB in the draft out of concern tells me it's worse than we all thought. Hell, Simmons still got drafted in the first coming off a major leg injury.