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Racing: 2025 F1 Season
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The Marquis
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Why? If they were making room for another in the Middle East, sure. But they want the sport to be a truly global thing, and I fully welcome that. It comes with its risks, sure, but it enhances the lives of fans and businesses in the places it happens. I think they should rotate every race.
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I feel you need to keep your staples. Rotate the rest.
Spa is arguably the best track/setting in F1.
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If that was the point, they should probably start by not having two races whose distance between which is similar to Montreal - Ottawa.
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Erhhm.. I was referring to Monza and Imola, both located about 250 km from each other, AND located in the same country. But I should'Ve realized that Spa and Zandvoort are also close one to another.
Zandvoort will leave the calendar in a few seasons. 2026 I think. Which will mean the closest track to Spa is, like, Silverstone.
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I just decided to watch the 1994 season opener in Brazil. Shocking how bad the production of the event was.
No coverage of secondary battles, 95% of the coverage on the two drivers at the front even though not battling wheel to wheel. Missed many passes and couldn't even cut to a monstrous crash nor give us a full speed view of it.
Many other bells and whistles of course that would not come until much later.Would love to rewatch it with the current points in place..
Derek Daly and Bob Varsha did an excellent job with what they had. Some great insight into many aspects of the new season along with some neat historical facts etc.
Makes one really appreciate what we have today.
No coverage of secondary battles, 95% of the coverage on the two drivers at the front even though not battling wheel to wheel. Missed many passes and couldn't even cut to a monstrous crash nor give us a full speed view of it.
Many other bells and whistles of course that would not come until much later.Would love to rewatch it with the current points in place..
Derek Daly and Bob Varsha did an excellent job with what they had. Some great insight into many aspects of the new season along with some neat historical facts etc.
Makes one really appreciate what we have today.
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Having a reason to care about the midfield is one of the great things about present day F1 broadcasts.
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PanniniClaus
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yes - just started the second race. The Grand Prix of the Pacific.
Hilarious to look back and see that in a 16 race calendar we had two races in Japan, 2 in Italy (Imola being in the principality of San Marino) 2 in France (Monaco) and 2 in Spain (Euro GP was Jerez). Half the races in 4 countries.
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Formula 1 drivers face race bans for swearing or criticising FIA
F1 drivers face bans if they repeatedly swear or criticise the sport's governing body under changes to the FIA's sporting code for the 2025 season.
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So what if the GPDA all get together and decide to just have a rant on the radio one race. Does the FIA suspend them all for the following race and just use reserve/test drivers all weekend?
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Can I ask a couple of stupid questions as a very, very casual F1 “fan”.
- Is Hamilton “washed” or at least not at his peak “skill” anymore and should we temper expectations of him with Ferrari? Or is poor results in recent years simply down the his team and car?
- Is he or Leclerc the “#1” driver for Ferrari or is that not really a “thing” or will it come down to results early in the season?
What do people expect of Hamilton and Ferrari’s marriage?
- Is Hamilton “washed” or at least not at his peak “skill” anymore and should we temper expectations of him with Ferrari? Or is poor results in recent years simply down the his team and car?
- Is he or Leclerc the “#1” driver for Ferrari or is that not really a “thing” or will it come down to results early in the season?
What do people expect of Hamilton and Ferrari’s marriage?
The problem is that we then only have a couple of European races left. They are going to be in the wrong places already as things are, but eradicating the F1 from its traditional home ground altogether is hardly an improvement. It's going to be a mostly Asian calendar going forward.
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F1 clearly wants to present itself as a global championship, and they seem to believe that global representation is critical to that and they are selling a couple regions of the world a little short.
Europe will still have quite a few and per square km and per person will still have the most races most years. You have Austria, UK, Hungary, Italy, Monaco and Spain all hosting a race each with Belgium most years. That's 6 annually and 7 some years once Zandvoort and Emilia Romagna are done.
Yeah, Asia has a lot, but you can't really look at Asia as a continent in the same way you can Europe. All of the races in the middle east are closer to ALL of the races in Europe than they are to the closest other race in Asia outside of the Middle East. Even in soccer, the only game that counts in their confederation competitions that's truly continental are the finals. It really acts more as Middle East and Asia until the finals.
That said, if you split it that way, as you should, there are races in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan (slightly arguably Europe), Qatar, and 2 in UAE. That's 6 races for a region in Asia around the same size in both population and area as Europe without Russia and one that is geographically closer to Europe than Asia.
Then you have East and Southeast Asia (as a combined region, not a continent). You have China, Japan, Singapore. 3 races in a geographic region larger than either Europe or the Middle East and with a substantially bigger population.
That's not counting the Indian subcontinent, which while substantially smaller in area, but containing a population nearly triple of Europe has has zero races. Similarly with Africa with nearly double the population.
North America of course has Mexico (maybe), Canada and 3 in the USA. 5 total in a region with similar population as Europe without Russia. I'd argue population and area wise, North America, like Europe and the Middle East will well served with races. The USA should be like 15-18 countries anyway, so having 3 is more like regional representation than anything. It's not like the UAE who have 2 big cities and each has a race. That is silly, sure and should be one of the things that gives, but it won't and we ALL know why.
South America has 1, and while it is larger than Europe in size, it has around the same number of people as Europe without Russia.
In short, I don't feel bad for Europe one lick for losing two races. I feel bad for the Dutch, sure. Not having that one at home would hurt. It's like having a team move, totally sucks, but Europe isn't hurting for F1 races at all and something has to give in order to meet those aspirations that F1 seems to have regarding global representation.
There will be more races also in East and Southeast Asia in the near future, possibly even several. Infrastructure in many of the involved places remains such that visiting fans from outside the immediate metropolitan area will likely fly in anyway and draw from the same pool as existing races, including Australia and all the Gulf ones. The kind of vibrant motorsports fan scenes that you find in Europe exist only in Japan (and Australia).
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If I was a dictator I would hand out lifetime contracts to Suzuka, Monaco (controversial, I know), Silverstone, Spa, Monza and Interlagos. Any other track I'm fine with being on a rotational basis. Although if Fuji was still a possibility I wouldn't mind rotating Suzuka either.
I'm happy with F1 going to new locations, I'm annoyed at how pretty much every new F1 track is a street track. Which makes sense, since it's much easier for everyone attending a race, but I don't want them to be every other track on the calendar. It's very rare that I fall in love with any new F1 tracks these days, Jeddah is probably an exception.
For more non-European races, I'd happily bring back Sepang in an instant. Or even the Korean and Indian GP's, which I know weren't fan favorites but I actually liked them.
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Formula 1: Johnny Herbert dropped from steward role over 'incompatible' media work
Former grand prix driver Johnny Herbert is dropped from his role as a steward in Formula 1.
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Hamilton crashes during second F1 test for Ferrari
Lewis Hamilton has crashed his Ferrari on day two of the Italian team’s private test at Spain’s Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya.
www.formula1.com
Nothing against Fuji per se although the previous attempt to bring F1 there was a shitshow, but Suzuka is a much better racetrack. It's like rotating between Spa and Zolder.
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I think Suzuka is one of those tracks, alongside probably Melbourne and Montreal, that have suffered a lot because of how massive these cars are. There's just not that much room for racing there.
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