2025 DRAFT

I highly doubt he moves it. Rule of thumb is GM's will say they're isn't anything they won't consider doing. Also is the Sharks lose the lottery and fall to #2, I don't think teams are just instantly taking Schaefer at #1 either. He's really not a clear cut #1 pick, both Misa and Hagens are right there, with Martine just behind since he's a winger.

Chicago, Nashville, and Philly will almost certainly take a center. Boston probably leans center but not guarantee. Seattle probably takes the defenseman. No way Buffalo takes another LD.

As for values, I thi k Calgary has to add a bit for #2, but I doubt either team bites. I could see a situation where Chicago offers up Levshunov though
I doubt it moves as well. But it is an interesting conversation. Parekh has done nothing to lower his value. The pick at #2 gets you that potential "franchise" center. Sharks need the defenseman more than the center. If it does move my guess is Buffalo is heavily involved.
 
The distance between where Jersey likely picks, and a top 3 picks is astronomical barring a crazy overpayment from Calgary's end.

I just can't see it happening without Calgary ending up in a really bad spot. Of the Sharks, Hawks and Preds (the highest likelihood it'll be these guys down there) none of those guys scream "We need some older assets more than some youth". Maybe the Hawks, but they're on the scorched earth path that a lot of folks here and on social media want Calgary heading down.

I just think Calgary needs to make the most of these two picks. Bet on skill like they did with Parekh; Kindel should be a no brainer, Cole Reschny, Carter Bear, Lynden Lakovic; if you leave with a couple of these guys, I think you can look at this draft as being a success. They won't play next year, or the year after, but could be staples on the arena-opening team.

The only way I trade up is using secondary draft currency if there's someone they really love. And being honest, I really don't think Calgary should trade either of these picks, minus a no-brainer trade.
 
I doubt it moves as well. But it is an interesting conversation. Parekh has done nothing to lower his value. The pick at #2 gets you that potential "franchise" center. Sharks need the defenseman more than the center. If it does move my guess is Buffalo is heavily involved.
Correct that Parekh hasn't lowered his value but to say he's raised it to #2 status might be a tough sell. I think the top 4 in this years draft are all very good and will probably be day 1 NHLers. IMO it's actually pretty easy to compare since Misa and Parekh were teammates. While Parekh lead the team in points last year, I think it's pretty clear that with how dominant Misa was this year, he is just simply the better prospect right now. Tavares was the last person to put up that many points in the OHL, and he Misa did it on what was quite honestly a pretty weak team, past Zayne and Chernyshov it really isn't that strong of a roster. Epperson will probably get drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round somewhere but that's more or less it
 
Correct that Parekh hasn't lowered his value but to say he's raised it to #2 status might be a tough sell. I think the top 4 in this years draft are all very good and will probably be day 1 NHLers. IMO it's actually pretty easy to compare since Misa and Parekh were teammates. While Parekh lead the team in points last year, I think it's pretty clear that with how dominant Misa was this year, he is just simply the better prospect right now. Tavares was the last person to put up that many points in the OHL, and he Misa did it on what was quite honestly a pretty weak team, past Zayne and Chernyshov it really isn't that strong of a roster. Epperson will probably get drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round somewhere but that's more or less it
So what I am hearing is that you would move Parekh for Misa. :sarcasm:

I agree with you. I think the value is Parekh and the Panthers/Devils 1st for #2. I am vexed if I would do it and I am super high on Misa.
 
So what I am hearing is that you would move Parekh for Misa. :sarcasm:

I agree with you. I think the value is Parekh and the Panthers/Devils 1st for #2. I am vexed if I would do it and I am super high on Misa.
I hate the idea of doing it since I am quite high on Parekh but I am also very high on Misa. I've been following Misa since he was on Mississauga
 
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Do you value a franchise center or a franchise defenseman higher though? If Grier came and said Ill give you #2 for Parekh I think Conroy would be very intrigued.
I value BPA, which I would say is impossible to tell at this point. Misa is pretty impressive, not to take anything away from him, but I don't think I'm making a move like this on the chance that a forward with 2 ppg in the OHL might be a franchise centre. I should qualify, as others have pointed out, it would be a 1st and Parekh, which is too steep.
 
Flip side you might get your franchise center.
Is it more likely a Hischier than a Celebrini, though? The Flames don't need another good 1B to move the needle. Parekh is equally likely to cause a big impact on the team trajectory if it isn't a franchise player level centre.
 
Is it more likely a Hischier than a Celebrini, though? The Flames don't need another good 1B to move the needle. Parekh is equally likely to cause a big impact on the team trajectory if it isn't a franchise player level centre.
If it was Celebrini its not even on the table, he might end up as one of the top centers in the game. I think Tavares is the comparable. Would you trade Parakh for that? Then it gets interesting.
 
If it was Celebrini its not even on the table, he might end up as one of the top centers in the game. I think Tavares is the comparable. Would you trade Parakh for that? Then it gets interesting.
just playing devil's advocate: with Parekh as he's touted today, would you trade him for a junior player slotted to go #2, historically, statistically being a 1/4 chance of turning into an Olli Jokinen, a 1/10 chance of turning into a Getzlaf? Yes Misa's comparables might be different, or a touch higher.
 
Lots of scouts are not sold on his health.

There's a world where McQueen sees the teens at this draft.
Just can't see a lot of these guys in the early part of this draft wanting to take that big of a swing. If you're Buffalo, Boston, Seattle, Anaheim... you need to be finding a way out of this path you've set, and I don't think tanking a major project on is the way they'll go.

I could be wrong, I likely am, but that seems like some really high risk for some good upside. Those teams should be actively looking to improve their rosters in my humble opinion.
 
just playing devil's advocate: with Parekh as he's touted today, would you trade him for a junior player slotted to go #2, historically, statistically being a 1/4 chance of turning into an Olli Jokinen, a 1/10 chance of turning into a Getzlaf? Yes Misa's comparables might be different, or a touch higher.
Now do the odds of Parekh turning in Karlsson vs Deangelo ;)

The chances of any of this happening are next to nil, but it is an interesting conversation.
 
Now do the odds of Parekh turning in Karlsson vs Deangelo ;)

The chances of any of this happening are next to nil, but it is an interesting conversation.
I would move Parekh for #2 or 3 (assuming Schaefer goes 1/2)... However, I would not be willing to add a 1st to him, a 2nd, sure. But I feel like if these guys were his draft class last year, that he's have been close to that top tier, if not in it.

I think the better option is to hit up Seattle, Anaheim and Buffalo and put Ras on the table... see if any of them bite as at least 2 of them could use a good RHD.
 
I'm still seeing them as listed with odds to get 1st OA again... how can that be... or is it only the 1st draw that counts?
I guess if they win this time, it will disqualify them from 2026 and 2027? Doesn't quite fit the rule though...I'd have to dig depper
 
Actually, the Sharks won the lottery last year, didn't they?
they draw for #1 and #2. Chicago won #2.
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last 5 years results
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found this
The 2022 NHL Draft Lottery marked the first year for the implementation of a limit on how many times a team can win a lottery draw. No single team can advance in the draft order by reason of winning a Lottery Draw more than two times in any five-year period.

So since they retained their pick with the win last year, it doesn't count... f***ing stupid
 

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