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Prospect Info: 2025 Draft: We are #1….1

Andy99 said:
This ranking has Eklund at #4 and Martin at #22…eyes of the beholder lol…Bear is very high up

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2025 NHL Draft Rankings: Ferrari's Post-Lottery Top 64

One week after the NHL’s draft lottery decided which franchise received the first-overall pick, it’s time for a new round of draft rankings.
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I'm not going to claim I know the drafting order but those rankings are a bit wild for me. Some of them are so far from the typical consensus that it's hard to take serious. I think Martin goes WELL before 22. Desnoyers at 16 is odd but I can definitely see McQueen at 17 if other scouts/GMs are like me (and most of us here) and are skittish on his injury.

I just hope that list is what every other GM has but Dubas has my list :laugh:
 
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It's probably not gonna happen cuz it's just as much of an NHL coaching issue as it is a Sully issue, but I would love for this team to have some specialists again. Dude sucks defensively but rips one-timers? Sick. Dude's a non-factor offensively or in transition but he's gonna bury somebody into the third row if they go near the crease or into the corner? Hell yeah.
 
Big Friggin Dummy said:
It's probably not gonna happen cuz it's just as much of an NHL coaching issue as it is a Sully issue, but I would love for this team to have some specialists again. Dude sucks defensively but rips one-timers? Sick. Dude's a non-factor offensively or in transition but he's gonna bury somebody into the third row if they go near the crease or into the corner? Hell yeah.
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What? You don't like having a roster constructed entirely out of milquetoast, aggressively average players with no standout skills aside from like two guys?
 
Big Friggin Dummy said:
Just say some dumb shit like swiss army knife and you've got Yohe licking your boot, baybeeeeee!
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"He's a hardnosed player with some size and edge (no he isn't) who plays a fast, high-tempo, responsible game (hahahaha) and will provide yet another lynchpin for the Penguins penalty kill (he can't score for shit). Penguins fans will love that he brings a multitude of tools to the middle six (oh god he's worse than we thought) and all that for a minimal amount of risk in regards to contract flexibility (they paid him 3M a year for five years to come here)."

You can copy/paste that if you want for your puff piece on the next useless slug they bring in here, Josh.
 
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So, I was putzing around and realized that almost all of the picks the Pens have accumulated for 2025 are from teams who are already locked in place in their order (only exception is the 2nd round pick from the Capitals).

This means that, pending any possible compensatory picks, we basically know where the Pens are picking through the entire draft:

011/1
012/1 (conditional pick from Rangers for Petterson and O'Connor)
XXX/2 (from Capitals for Beauvillier)
073/3
084/3 (from Wild via Predators as part of trade for Glass)
085/3 (from Sens via Blues in exchange of picks for Blues to get their own pick back)
105/4
130/5 (from 'Hawks via Caps in Eller trade)
148/5 (worse of Rangers/Wild, from Rangers in Reilly Smith trade; so they're getting the Wild's pick)
169/6
201/7

Not really much use to knowing, but it's kind of funny to realize that after the first round, all those teams' positions are already fixed.
 
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CheckingLineCenter said:
Rankings =\= mock draft

It is ok to put Cullen Potter 6th on your list and him get drafted 27th. Or vice versa.

HP always talks about how shocking NHL team lists would be to fans.
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Yeah, also speaking to a league of GM's starving for centers....giving off that mirage of center/center/center/center/center/center/........

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Turin said:
REBUILD UPDATE:

We are no longer aspiring to the Capitals model of retool. I repeat, we are NO LONGER looking to retool like Washington.

Time to tank for 3 years.
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Shift to the Vegas style - use all picks and prospects to collect big time players. Snag a disgruntled franchise 1C such as McDavid or Matthews. Then sign a 1D in free agency. Easy.
 
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SEALBound said:
Shift to the Vegas style - use all picks and prospects to collect big time players. Snag a disgruntled franchise 1C such as McDavid or Matthews. Then sign a 1D in free agency. Easy.
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Everybody except very small market teams should be doing this anyway imo.
 
Turin said:
Everybody except very small market teams should be doing this anyway imo.
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Fair, only so many Eichels, Stones, Hertls, etc to go around though. Given the contracts they gave out to them, I would say they have committed to their "core" the same way others have.

Their bonus is just that they don't fall in love with the Rust and Rakells of the team and extract value when they can. Then they go out and find other Rusts and Rakells.
 
CheckingLineCenter said:
@Jesse where are you seeing that besides mocks from the Athletic that assume NYR has the pick

ppl gonna flame me but I like Nesbitt and think he’s worthy to be talked about in the teens. A lot of online people seem to think it’s ridiculous he’s talked about in the 1st.

and I think he fits the Clark profile. (OHL, development runway, athlete)
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There was a mock draft I saw (forgot source) plus a bunch of comments about it in the Penguins community group on Twitter.
 
I did a quick 2:00 video on West Mifflin's LJ Mooney from the U18's. Only 5'7, and that's a massive hurdle, but man, this kid can dangle the puck. Unreal vision, too. Haven't really seen his size adversely affect him yet.

 
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