Prospect Info: 2025 Draft: We are #1….1

[Ryder71]

Bear or McQueen. Swing for it!

Two guys with significant injuries, smart!

 

[Turin]

I don't see how Aitcheson and Miller are at all comparable outside of being black.

Miller and Smith are more comparable stylistically.

reminds me of Subban personally

 

[Zirakzigil]

Id take McQueen at 11. Be interesting to see who is there after a team or two reaches. Barring an unsurprising drop, Id take Kindel.

 

[Pancakes]

Id take McQueen at 11. Be interesting to see who is there after a team or two reaches. Barring an unsurprising drop, Id take Kindel.

Yeah honestly it'd be hard to complain with McQueen if he fell to 11. I was less into him at 9 but if the guys I previously wanted are off the board by 11 why not.

 

[Jacob]

Instead of working today I whipped up my top 15. Subject to tweaks and I admit my opinion carries little weight. Already flip-flopped Misa & Schaefer a few times.


Schaefer
Misa
Martone
Frondell
Hagens
Martin
Desnoyers
Eklund
Aitcheson
O’Brien
Bear
Reschny
Mrtka
Spence
McQueen

If we get one of these guys I’m good.

 

[Ryder71]

Instead of working today I whipped up my top 15. Subject to tweaks and I admit my opinion carries little weight. Already flip-flopped Misa & Schaefer a few times.


Schaefer
Misa
Martone
Frondell
Hagens
Martin
Desnoyers
Eklund
Aitcheson
O’Brien
Bear
Reschny
Mrtka
Spence
McQueen

If we get one of these guys I’m good.

Let me help you. NO to McQueen, Aitcheson, Mrtka or Spence. Not a big fan of Frondell either but I suspect he'll be gone before we pick.

 

[Ryder71]

Yeah honestly it'd be hard to complain with McQueen if he fell to 11. I was less into him at 9 but if the guys I previously wanted are off the board by 11 why not.

Because he has back issues at age 18? We don't need ''damaged goods'' ok? Anyone with even a modicum of common sense wouldn't think of drafting him that high.

 

[Pancakes]

Because he has back issues at age 18? We don't need ''damaged goods'' ok? Anyone with even a modicum of common sense wouldn't think of drafting him that high.

You're not gonna get a prospect without warts at 11th.

 

[Mr. T]

Me, a poster with diabetic socks cranked up past my knees:

This guy's health sux!!!

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I'm ready to post my Official Roger McQueen Is Mid thread the second Dubas announces the pick.

 

[Ryder71]

You're not gonna get a prospect without warts at 11th.

You don't need a player who missed lots of games at age 18 due to back issues. That won't age well. That's going out of your way to create uncertainty in the coming years, no thanks. There's enough uncertainty as is with prospects.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Me, a poster with diabetic socks cranked up past my knees:

This guy's health sux!!!

You won't like what we have to say about you when Dubas drafts you to rebuild around!

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

You're not gonna get a prospect without warts

fixd

 

[Jacob]

You don't need a player who missed lots of games at age 18 due to back issues. That won't age well. That's going out of your way to create uncertainty in the coming years, no thanks. There's enough uncertainty as is with prospects.

I partly agree but I still think the risk might be worth the reward depending on what else is on the board and how he checks out at the combine.

If there’s like a 50% chance his back becomes a chronic issue, 25% chance he flops for other reasons or a 25% chance he becomes a meaner Tage Thompson or the 3rd Tkachuk brother, that might still make it worth the pick. Maybe. He was in the conversation for 1OA earlier in the season.

 

[Ryder71]

I partly agree but I still think the risk might be worth the reward depending on what else is on the board and how he checks out at the combine.

If there’s like a 50% chance his back becomes a chronic issue, 25% chance he flops for other reasons or a 25% chance he becomes a meaner Tage Thompson or the 3rd Tkachuk brother, that might still make it worth the pick. Maybe. He was in the conversation for 1OA earlier in the season.

Absolutely not. There's so many variables to consider here as is. To have that kind of issue right off the hopper doesn't seem wise to me. He's not so good that he's miles ahead of any of the other prospects available at 11th OA. If there was a huge disparity in his talent and ability compared to others at that juncture, I'd still be hesitant. But, that's not even the case here.

Beyond the obvious, if Desnoyers, Eklund, JOB and Martin are gone I'd go for Reschny. Skilled, high end talent, nifty, smooth skater, good vision, rising up the boards like a rocket! One of those five MUST be a Pittsburgh Penguin or the 1st round is a shit show!

 

[Ugene Magic]

Bear or McQueen. Swing for it!

Bear

Id take McQueen at 11. Be interesting to see who is there after a team or two reaches. Barring an unsurprising drop, Id take Kindel.

Yeah honestly it'd be hard to complain with McQueen if he fell to 11. I was less into him at 9 but if the guys I previously wanted are off the board by 11 why not.

Instead of working today I whipped up my top 15. Subject to tweaks and I admit my opinion carries little weight. Already flip-flopped Misa & Schaefer a few times.


Schaefer
Misa
Martone
Frondell
Hagens
Martin
Desnoyers
Eklund
Aitcheson
O’Brien
#11 Bear
Reschny
Mrtka
Spence
McQueen

If we get one of these guys I’m good.

It's official... Jacob has spoken.

Just grin and Bear it.

 

[Pancakes]

I'm ready to post my Official Roger McQueen Is Mid thread the second Dubas announces the pick.

You better be quick because I'm sure Pixies already has a post saved for just such an occasion

 

[Mr. T]

You won't like what we have to say about you when Dubas drafts you to rebuild around!

 

[The Old Master]

You don't need a player who missed lots of games at age 18 due to back issues. That won't age well. That's going out of your way to create uncertainty in theI coming years, no thanks. There's enough uncertainty as is with prospects.

if he's there, i would pick him. but 'Im also hoping that he's not there,

 

[Empoleon8771]

If I had to pick, I'd rather go Reschny over Bear solely due to Bear's Achilles injury. I'm really concerned how that will impact him going forward.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I know we butt heads on this but it's fair to say that Schaeffer is the best dman and Misa is the best center.

I think NYI need a forward more than a dman and Sharks need a dman more than a forward. Would be pretty straightforward and good for both for it to go Misa-Schaeffer.

Only wrench in there is if the Islanders want Long Island by James Hagens. I could see a scenario where Chicago trades up to 1ov to take Misa, SJS take Schaeffer, and NYI take Hagens and get a little something on the side. Chicago has Toronto's first and a couple of 2nds. Those three going to those respective teams makes the most "logical" sense IF you were hand-picking everything.

Im sure someone from the field will be best player from this class but where we are today I think Schaefer is by himself regardless of position.

Anyway- on the forwards.. I have Misa 2a. Hagens 2b. I cannot decide on them. I think Misa had a fantastic season. Hagens had an underwhelming one. That matters a lot, hence Misa slightly above for now. But while it matters a lot— ultimately it’s not about who had the better draft year it’s about who is better down the road.

I look at both their upside. I think Hagens just could be that slaloming, puck carrying, play driving C that makes linemates better and is a helluva playmaker. Think in between Cooley and Hughes. I think he is as pure a center as you can get as a prospect. Whereas Misa is very different— not going to be a shift dictator or creator and maybe not even a C imo. While he’s got great tools he is more tactical, IQ driven and plays off linemates. (For instance I think hes gonna kinda play like Aho if he is a C.) so if both max out upside I value the first more than the second.

But Misa had better season, more size, better floor, better goal scorer. I think he had better year and is a bit more “sure” or “projectable” so I keep him at 2a (I think if he doesn’t hit upside you still could throw him on the wing with a good C and get a 30 goal/yr guy) but I would think very hard about him over Hagens and completely understand anyone taking Hagens over Misa.

I think people do this every year. CHL guy has great season but they don’t look at 5 years out, but it’s crazy to question it.

Different positions but could see easily Misa vs Hagens playing out like Lafreniere vs Raymond (not saying it will, and again have Misa slightly ahead).

 

[DrDangles]

If I had to pick, I'd rather go Reschny over Bear solely due to Bear's Achilles injury. I'm really concerned how that will impact him going forward.

I see Bear as the sleeper in the top 15 and could be a steal outside of the top 10. Younger people recover from injuries much easier and I would rather go for broke on this pick. We have a lot of middling talent waiting in the system, we don't have anybody that brings what Bear does.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Instead of working today I whipped up my top 15. Subject to tweaks and I admit my opinion carries little weight. Already flip-flopped Misa & Schaefer a few times.


Schaefer
Misa
Martone
Frondell
Hagens
Martin
Desnoyers
Eklund
Aitcheson
O’Brien
Bear
Reschny
Mrtka
Spence
McQueen

If we get one of these guys I’m good.

sell me on Desnoyers. I’m really struggling with him being top 15, much less top 5-10.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Wheeler did his first mock draft and has Eklund going to the Pens at 11, but he says they'd likely value a center if one of the top ones is available.

2025 NHL Mock Draft 1.0: Scott Wheeler predicts the entire first round

With the first-round order taking shape following Monday night's lottery, Wheeler makes the first 32 picks of the draft.

www.nytimes.com

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I like Bear I just kinda worry he is going to be caliber of player available every single TDL.