Now we're guaranteed to pick 15th not the worst spot to be in we get a faller from the second tier. I have faith in our scouting for once.
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This and in that order for me. Don’t overthink it, take one of the prolific WHL scoring centres or the latter two guys if both are gone. All four have high skill and high motors. This draft is loaded with centres in the first round so it’s not a bad year to be picking 15th.
he would be the dumbest pick since i heard: "The Vancouver Canucks are proud to select, from the London Knights......"
i actually think he's a pretty good prospect (better than willander even maybe) but taking another undersized defenseman without elite puck moving ability would be one the stupidest things the canucks could do in 2025
We could have 4 first round picks and it wouldn't make sense to take him IMO. And i don't even really mind vanilla....but he's the kind of vanilla that comes in a big plastic bucket from a budget grocery store, that never gets finished before it's covered with fuzzy ice because it's just completely forgettable and ends up at the back of the freezer.
In terms of any potential trade up, given which club holds the picks and pending final results:
1 - SJ keeping pick
2 - Chi should be open, but unlikely to get something that makes then give up the pick
3 - Nas given their season pretty much have to keep it
4 - Bos not sure how much they believe they can quickly retool the team like they did after getting Pasta and MacAvoy in 14 and 16 drafts
5 - SEA probably keep it
6 - PHI probably keep it. After Michkov, nothing jumps out at you
7 - Buf should look to move. They want NHL players, not prospects
8 - Pitt should keep it
9 - Ana could go either or.
10 Isles I see them keeping the pick.
I don't see Van having what those clubs who would consider moving their pick would want in return.
1 - SJ keeping pick
2 - Chi should be open, but unlikely to get something that makes then give up the pick
3 - Nas given their season pretty much have to keep it
4 - Bos not sure how much they believe they can quickly retool the team like they did after getting Pasta and MacAvoy in 14 and 16 drafts
5 - SEA probably keep it
6 - PHI probably keep it. After Michkov, nothing jumps out at you
7 - Buf should look to move. They want NHL players, not prospects
8 - Pitt should keep it
9 - Ana could go either or.
10 Isles I see them keeping the pick.
I don't see Van having what those clubs who would consider moving their pick would want in return.
Every year, the speculation is the same. Some team is willing to trade out of the top-10 to acquire 'extra' picks. Another lottery team is trading their first-round pick for immediate player help. And the draft is so 'weak' that just about any team picking in the top-20 is willing to move their pick.
Except that it mostly never happens. And it won't this year. In some ways, I'm sort of relieved the Canucks are picking 15th. They won't be tempted to move the pick; because by the middle of the first round, you're really not getting much of anything back in value anyway.
And the last time the Canucks picked 15th overall, it was Lekkerimaki in 2022. So they're going to get a solid prospect. It'll probably take 2-3 years of development time. But eventually they'll gain a player in their system who can actually play in the NHL one day.
Except that it mostly never happens. And it won't this year. In some ways, I'm sort of relieved the Canucks are picking 15th. They won't be tempted to move the pick; because by the middle of the first round, you're really not getting much of anything back in value anyway.
And the last time the Canucks picked 15th overall, it was Lekkerimaki in 2022. So they're going to get a solid prospect. It'll probably take 2-3 years of development time. But eventually they'll gain a player in their system who can actually play in the NHL one day.
Also, when the talk is about a team moving a high pick, they want a young player back. Like what team is trading a 25 year old for the right to draft an 18 year old? Teams would rather have the proven NHLer. You are more likely to see clubs move someone around age 28 or 29 for that pick if they are entering a rebuild situation and that player has 1 year or so left, maybe 2.
Rare to see an AZ/NYR deal like back in 2017 where AZ took Rannta and Stepan for the 7th OA pick which was Lias Andersson.
I'm still unconvinced they're going to move this pick, so maybe we'll get to care about the draft a bit?
A name i keep coming back to is Jack Nesbitt. Anyone have an opinion of him?
A name i keep coming back to is Jack Nesbitt. Anyone have an opinion of him?
I live in Windsor actually. He's a gamer but needs to improve skating and consistency. I'm okay with him at 15 but wouldn't mind a player who falls in our laps instead.
Seems a little too vanilla from what I’ve seen to consider at 15. Get Brendan Gaunce vibes.
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About the only way I see Vancouver trading their pick, is if they have chance to move down and acquire additional picks later in either the first our second round.
Trading the 15th overall pick straight up, isn't going to get you anything. At least nobody who's going to be of much help to the Canucks next season. Also, I could easily see the Canucks packaging their second and maybe a third rounder, to move up and pick player they really like
But then it's probable that there will be a lot of draft-day deals like that around the NHL, as team scouting lists are likely to be all over the map-- in what is generally being regarded as a mediocre draft in later rounds.
Trading the 15th overall pick straight up, isn't going to get you anything. At least nobody who's going to be of much help to the Canucks next season. Also, I could easily see the Canucks packaging their second and maybe a third rounder, to move up and pick player they really like
But then it's probable that there will be a lot of draft-day deals like that around the NHL, as team scouting lists are likely to be all over the map-- in what is generally being regarded as a mediocre draft in later rounds.
I don’t know… you can package that pick with a young D for the 2nd line C, which has to be addressed. D Petey/Willander and the 15th overall pick should help fix our top 6 and given the owner wants to win now and Hughes window, I think they will make that move.
What second line centre would be available for this package? Have a hard time thinking of a realistic target.
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Yup. Agreed. I don't like the pessimistic approach around here that we have to sacrifice every bit of future in short term low value, low success rate moves for Hughes. Sounds like the same poor advice we hear every year and then it turns out we definitely could have used those draft picks down the road after all. How about we plan on attempting to be a good team while re-signing Hughes. He's going to need some better players in 2-4 years time as well instead of some short term wasted asset. Unless we can get some 23- 26 year old breakout top 6 guy maybe we sign the best ufa's we can and trade next year's first if need be.
Hughes is also smart and incredibly determined to win. I can see him placing value in a multi-faceted stronger long term plan rather than just blowing our load on the best mediocre shit someone will give us. Once signed long term Vancouver will become a very attractive option for many players. Like I would trade the first for Forsberg or McTavish, but not Zacha or similar like I've heard suggested.
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Yep. That's a futures type package, meaning that club would need to be willing to take a step back. So, target is a bottom 12-15 team (and not showing signs of being on the way up. Ana is a team on the way up with a 20 point improvement this season. They can't move a MacTavish for guys who were not NHLers last season). Or they find a team on the way down. Isles would need to be all in on a total rebuild to part with Barzal. That means, Bo, Pullock, Pelech, Lee, Sorokin, and even the 2 2018 drafted Dmen in Dobson/Romanov who are nearing the end of their bridge deals and are not likely staying for 5 more years of no PO.
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15 for me does not have much value
Last ten years of 15th overall picks
Zachary Senyshyn-2015
Jakob Chychrun-2016
Erik Brannstrom 2017
Grigori Denisenko 2018
Cole Caufield 2019 very deep draft
Rodion Amirov 2020
Sebastian Cossa 2021 Goalie looks a year away from being their starting goalie
Jonathan Lekkerimaki 2022
Matthew Wood 2023
Michael Brandsegg-Nygard 2024
I admit I do not follow draft groups that close but from what I have read this is a depth draft as opposed to a game breaker draft. 2015 was a game breakers draft outside of of the top 5
Last ten years of 15th overall picks
Zachary Senyshyn-2015
Jakob Chychrun-2016
Erik Brannstrom 2017
Grigori Denisenko 2018
Cole Caufield 2019 very deep draft
Rodion Amirov 2020
Sebastian Cossa 2021 Goalie looks a year away from being their starting goalie
Jonathan Lekkerimaki 2022
Matthew Wood 2023
Michael Brandsegg-Nygard 2024
I admit I do not follow draft groups that close but from what I have read this is a depth draft as opposed to a game breaker draft. 2015 was a game breakers draft outside of of the top 5
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If we're 15, that's such a massive disappointment for such a downer of a season. I watched so few Canucks games this season as the entertainment was just not there. I guess we're in purgatory, enjoy the ride everyone!
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