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This is off the top of my head so it could be wrong.

But Only one time in franchise history have they moved up in the lottery and it was one spot (2016 from 4th to 3rd)

They’ve either moved down or stayed put in every other lottery they’ve been in (18 times) despite finishing in the top 10 17 times. The other two times we were in the teens in the lottery (2013, 2025)

1/19

Unheard of odds.

Not that we were “supposed” to win this one. But moving down is pretty f***ing hilarious.
 
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CBJWerenski8 said:
This is off the top of my head so it could be wrong.

But Only one time in franchise history have they moved up in the lottery and it was one spot (2016 from 4th to 3rd)

They’ve either moved down or stayed put in every other lottery they’ve been in (18 times) despite finishing in the top 10 17 times.

1/19

Unheard of odds.

Not that we were “supposed” to win this one. But moving down is pretty f***ing hilarious.
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Well hopefully moving down doesn't matter and they end up trading the pick for immediate help. Or just for the laughs, they have a trade in place pending on player being available. That player gets drafted at 13 and team backs out of trade lol
 
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There's no one on this board who understands what we just saw.
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I mean this wasn't peak TV but the ball combinations were released a couple of days beforehand (here is the PDF).

I thought they did an ok job trying to assign the teams to the last ball/number. I don't like how they spent an extra 30 seconds after the final ball to just announce it, when hardcore followers and fans of the winning team (NYI in this case) knew it immediately.

I think the format could've been worse. But it certainly could've been better too. I don't think this is it for the lottery. Probably would need to reconsider the whole ball combination logic if they want to make it interesting for TV. Last year wasn't great either but I guess it was a bit more dramatic at all phases and not just the last one. But there's something to be said for actually being 'live', so I think they had a good attempt, just didn't quite work super well.
 
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I think some smart high school kids could invent a system where a whole bunch of balls with team logos get dumped into a vat by 16 team representatives. Then the vat spins around until some Canadian celebrity like Tate McRae comes out blind folded and she pulls a lever and one ball spits out and it is immediately obvious to everyone which team won because their logo and colors are on the winning ball.

Then 15 team representatives come out and dump new balls into a 2nd spinning vat and then Tate McRae picks the 2 winner.

Everyone will laugh because the worst team will have a bunch of balls to dump and the 17th best team in the league will have just one ball to toss in.

Then afterwards players can autograph the unused balls and they could be auctioned off for some sort of charity during the couple of days before the start of the Stanley Cup finals.

In fact, I think high schools in Canada should have a contest to see which school can come up with the best spinning-ball-vat-to-select-one-ping-pong-ball-device and that high school could win some big prize.

That would make for good television.
 
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koteka said:
I think some smart high school kids could invent a system where a whole bunch of balls with team logos get dumped into a vat by 16 team representatives. Then the vat spins around until some Canadian celebrity like Tate McRae comes out blind folded and she pulls a lever and one ball spits out and it is immediately obvious to everyone which team won because their logo and colors are on the winning ball.
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Such a setup wouldn't accurately reflect the actual draw odds.

EDIT: In a Perfect World, one could hypothetically accomplish this by divvying up 200 balls among the various teams - 37 to SJS, 27 to CHI, we'd get 4, et cetera et cetera. The problem there, though, is that it makes verifying that the lottery balls are untampered and fair and equal that much more difficult, because of both 1) the sheer number of balls to inspect and 2) the fact that you're having team representatives handle their own lottery balls, which creates a conflict of interest. There's reasons it's designed this way.
 
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I've been one who hated the old way they did the draft lottery - doing it and then posting the video after the fact. So, I liked that they finally did it live on TV. I didn't have the number combinations in front of me, but I understood the process so it was an improvement for me. Hope they keep doing it even though it isn't going to be the greatest TV for everyone.
 
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Viqsi said:
Such a setup wouldn't accurately reflect the actual draw odds.

EDIT: In a Perfect World, one could hypothetically accomplish this by divvying up 200 balls among the various teams - 37 to SJS, 27 to CHI, we'd get 4, et cetera et cetera. The problem there, though, is that it makes verifying that the lottery balls are untampered and fair and equal that much more difficult, because of both 1) the sheer number of balls to inspect and 2) the fact that you're having team representatives handle their own lottery balls, which creates a conflict of interest. There's reasons it's designed this way.
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Alright I'll play dumb: What's the problem with the teams handling the balls?

Have the league provide 200 balls or whatever amount is needed for the odds, have teams stamp their balls live (each team allowed to bring a celebrity or ex-player for this riveting easter egg painting prime TV), bring the balls to the pool, draw the lottery in the way koteka envisioned... seems pretty hard to tamper with?

Frankly if somebody tampered with it somehow, now THAT makes for some interesting drama for the league lol.
 
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ThirdPeriodTurtle said:
Alright I'll play dumb: What's the problem with the teams handling the balls?

Have the league provide 200 balls or whatever amount is needed for the odds, have teams stamp their balls live (each team allowed to bring a celebrity or ex-player for this riveting easter egg painting prime TV), bring the balls to the pool, draw the lottery in the way koteka envisioned... seems pretty hard to tamper with?

Frankly if somebody tampered with it somehow, now THAT makes for some interesting drama for the league lol.
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Once a long long time ago I was an auditor who helped certify the Ohio lottery. In our control logs basically once the balls got weighed if they were touched by anyone outside the auditors it was considered a control fail. We would take the balls, put them in the dispenser and seal it. Before the lotto took place we would make sure that tampering seal wasn’t broken. Basically the idea is if you let someone touch the balls before hand they could slightly press down on it changing the shape enough to allow it to have more erratic movement therefore giving them a more unique chance to get the improve their odds.

I hate EY with a passion but I have no issue with how it’s ran. Also 200 balls wouldn’t allow such a random variation because it’s so packed in there which is why they only ran with 14 balls and randomized it 4 times. More room=more bouncing=more randomness
 
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