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NHL Entry Draft: 2025 Draft Pick Watch

I don't watch a heap of draft stuff these days, but Cootes kind of gives me JT Miller vibes from back in his day.
Different players, but similarities in terms of "will be an NHLer, it's a question of whether the offense develops to be a top line guy, or just a really useful middle-6 piece"
 
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There's a lot of players in this draft that could become closer to middle 6 than top 6/top line. I don't think I'd offer up 2 major pieces to move up.
Yeah, I mean even in the most highly regarded years it’s a crapshoot. This draft it seems even more so. It feels like there’s a top five that could go in a very variable order and then 10 more that can get chaotic. And I wouldn’t be surprised at a reach or two in the top ten that drops a more highly regarded guy back to our spot. I guess I just don’t see any clear advantage to using assets to trade up unless you’re talking top 5 and even then I wouldn’t get crazy. I’d love to get Martin, and he’s rated right around our spot… but I can see him going early and dropping a higher rated prospect further back.
 
Yeah, I mean even in the most highly regarded years it’s a crapshoot. This draft it seems even more so. It feels like there’s a top five that could go in a very variable order and then 10 more that can get chaotic. And I wouldn’t be surprised at a reach or two in the top ten that drops a more highly regarded guy back to our spot. I guess I just don’t see any clear advantage to using assets to trade up unless you’re talking top 5 and even then I wouldn’t get crazy. I’d love to get Martin, and he’s rated right around our spot… but I can see him going early and dropping a higher rated prospect further back.
A player like Radim Mrtka is ranked 12th from Mckenzie and 11th on tankathon, but I can see him hitting the top 10 with a team like Seattle wanting to fill their backend with a big defender. If that happens, somebody obviously has to drop. So I agree, bumping up a few slots doesn't seem smart this draft unless a really big player drops and you want him.

 
A player like Radim Mrtka is ranked 12th from Mckenzie and 11th on tankathon, but I can see him hitting the top 10 with a team like Seattle wanting to fill their backend with a big defender. If that happens, somebody obviously has to drop. So I agree, bumping up a few slots doesn't seem smart this draft unless a really big player drops and you want him.

I'd bet the farm Mtrka goes top 10. Teams will see a 6'6" RHD that can skate well and take him higher than he should go.
 
There's a lot of players in this draft that could become closer to middle 6 than top 6/top line. I don't think I'd offer up 2 major pieces to move up.


Yeah I would not move up unless it was a slam dunk for win. I do wonder since they wanted a top 13 protected 1st and Yzerman seems to be on the hot seat if they can give Pitt 12, then trade miller+ for 13 & a prospect like wallinder & Gus (as a cap dump).
 
Not sure if this is posted but if anybody wants the NYtimes opinion on prospects ranked by specific skills.. This doesn't really mean too much.

Best SkaterBest ShotBest HandsSmartestMostCompetitiveMost PhysicalStrongestWell-rounded
Cullen PotterCameron SchmidtRyker LeeAdam BenakBrady MartinBrady MartinShane VansaghiCaleb Desnoyers
Matthew SchaeferJustin CarbonneauJake O’BrienJames HagensKashawn AitchesonKashawn AitchesonMace’o PhillipsMilton Gastrin

Cameron Schmidt
Anton FrondellL.J. MooneyJake O’BrienVictor EklundMace’o PhillipsWilliam BelleCole Reschny
L.J. MooneyJakob Ihs-WozniakJustin CarbonneauCaleb DesnoyersCarter KlippensteinWilliam BelleDavid BedkowskiBraeden Cootes
Adam BenakKashawn AitchesonJames HagensBenjamin KindelMilton GastrinMalte VassCharlie TretheweyCole McKinney
Ben KevanJack MurtaghPorter MartoneMichael MisaCarter BearDavid BedkowskiVictor Eklund
Reese HamiltonPorter MartoneAlexander ZharovskyL.J. MooneyMalcolm SpenceMalcolm Spence
James HagensBryce PickfordMichael MisaMatthew SchaeferBill ZonnonCarter Bear

Michael Misa
Michael MisaConrad FondrkCole ReschnyCaleb Desnoyers
Sascha BoumedienneIvan RyabkinCameron Reid
Cameron ReidPorter Martone
Luca Romano
Haoxi Wang

Best Skater honorable mentions: Radim Mrtka, Lasse Boelius, Jackson Smith, Viggo Nordlund, Tomas Galvas, Daniel Nieminen, Kieren Dervin, Arvid Drott, Malcolm Spence, Lirim Amidovski

Best Shot honorable mentions: Daniil Prokhorov, Emile Guite, Charlie Trethewey, Cooper Simpson, Brent Solomon, Brady Martin, Carter Bear
(Should be noted that nobody ranked for best shot is believed to be an elite sniper.)

Best Hands honorable mentions: Brady Martin, Benjamin Kindel, Cullen Potter, Adam Benak, Viktor Klingsell, Aidan Lane, Filip Ekberg, Philippe Veilleux, Benjamin Rautiainen, Roger McQueen, Caleb Desnoyers, Cole Reschny

Smartest honorable mentions: William Moore, Roger McQueen, Victor Eklund, Luka Radivojevic, Jack Ivankovic.

Mot-Competitive honorable mentions: Theo Hallquisth, Cole Reschny, Jacob Kvasnicka, Eddie Genborg, Braeden Cootes, Travis Hayes, Malte Vass, Brendan McMorrow, Ethan Czata, Charlie Cerrato, L.J. Mooney, Shane Vansaghi, Tyler Hopkins, Tomas Pobezal

Most Physical honorable mentions: Carter Bear, Jack Nesbitt, Peyton Kettles, Shane Vansaghi, Carter Klippenstein, Daniil Prokhorov

Strongest honorable mentions: Anton Frondell, Kashawn Aitcheson, Brady Martin, Cole McKinney, Porter Martone, Carter Klippenstein, William Horcoff, Sean Barnhill, Jack Murtagh, Daniil Prokhorov, David Bedkowski, Justin Carbonneau, Carter Amico, Hayden Paupanekis, Brady Peddle, Peyton Kettles

Most well-rounded honorable mentions: Eric Nilson, Jake O’Brien, Anton Frondell, Michael Misa, Tyler Hopkins
 
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Yeah, no way it goes down like this, haha.

Focused on C and puck moving Ds, with a good G prospect and a meaty winger sprinkled in.

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Not sure if this is posted but if anybody wants the NYtimes opinion on prospects ranked by specific skills.. This doesn't really mean too much.

Best SkaterBest ShotBest HandsSmartestMostCompetitiveMost PhysicalStrongestWell-rounded
Cullen PotterCameron SchmidtRyker LeeAdam BenakBrady MartinBrady MartinShane VansaghiCaleb Desnoyers
Matthew SchaeferJustin CarbonneauJake O’BrienJames HagensKashawn AitchesonKashawn AitchesonMace’o PhillipsMilton Gastrin

Cameron Schmidt
Anton FrondellL.J. MooneyJake O’BrienVictor EklundMace’o PhillipsWilliam BelleCole Reschny
L.J. MooneyJakob Ihs-WozniakJustin CarbonneauCaleb DesnoyersCarter KlippensteinWilliam BelleDavid BedkowskiBraeden Cootes
Adam BenakKashawn AitchesonJames HagensBenjamin KindelMilton GastrinMalte VassCharlie TretheweyCole McKinney
Ben KevanJack MurtaghPorter MartoneMichael MisaCarter BearDavid BedkowskiVictor Eklund
Reese HamiltonPorter MartoneAlexander ZharovskyL.J. MooneyMalcolm SpenceMalcolm Spence
James HagensBryce PickfordMichael MisaMatthew SchaeferBill ZonnonCarter Bear

Michael Misa
Michael MisaConrad FondrkCole ReschnyCaleb Desnoyers
Sascha BoumedienneIvan RyabkinCameron Reid
Cameron ReidPorter Martone
Luca Romano
Haoxi Wang

Best Skater honorable mentions: Radim Mrtka, Lasse Boelius, Jackson Smith, Viggo Nordlund, Tomas Galvas, Daniel Nieminen, Kieren Dervin, Arvid Drott, Malcolm Spence, Lirim Amidovski

Best Shot honorable mentions: Daniil Prokhorov, Emile Guite, Charlie Trethewey, Cooper Simpson, Brent Solomon, Brady Martin, Carter Bear
(Should be noted that nobody ranked for best shot is believed to be an elite sniper.)

Best Hands honorable mentions: Brady Martin, Benjamin Kindel, Cullen Potter, Adam Benak, Viktor Klingsell, Aidan Lane, Filip Ekberg, Philippe Veilleux, Benjamin Rautiainen, Roger McQueen, Caleb Desnoyers, Cole Reschny

Smartest honorable mentions: William Moore, Roger McQueen, Victor Eklund, Luka Radivojevic, Jack Ivankovic.

Mot-Competitive honorable mentions: Theo Hallquisth, Cole Reschny, Jacob Kvasnicka, Eddie Genborg, Braeden Cootes, Travis Hayes, Malte Vass, Brendan McMorrow, Ethan Czata, Charlie Cerrato, L.J. Mooney, Shane Vansaghi, Tyler Hopkins, Tomas Pobezal

Most Physical honorable mentions: Carter Bear, Jack Nesbitt, Peyton Kettles, Shane Vansaghi, Carter Klippenstein, Daniil Prokhorov

Strongest honorable mentions: Anton Frondell, Kashawn Aitcheson, Brady Martin, Cole McKinney, Porter Martone, Carter Klippenstein, William Horcoff, Sean Barnhill, Jack Murtagh, Daniil Prokhorov, David Bedkowski, Justin Carbonneau, Carter Amico, Hayden Paupanekis, Brady Peddle, Peyton Kettles

Most well-rounded honorable mentions: Eric Nilson, Jake O’Brien, Anton Frondell, Michael Misa, Tyler Hopkins

I would caution against taking some of these guys early. Schmidt, Benak and Mooney are all around 5'7 or really really small. They can light up the leagues they're in and maybe you'll get a guy like DeBrincat but at that size you just aren't going to know until they hit the pros.

From watching teams that regularly make Cup runs size can really matter and defense is a position where I would not be drafting a sub 6' player in this draft. It's one thing if there were someone like a Hutson but I don't see a player like that coming out of this particular draft.

For the Rangers in this draft---if we're picking 9 guys I'd be kind of aiming at 4 defensemen anyway and I'd be drafting some bigger players. I think the last few drafts drafting bigger has kind of paid off for us.
 
I would caution against taking some of these guys early. Schmidt, Benak and Mooney are all around 5'7 or really really small. They can light up the leagues they're in and maybe you'll get a guy like DeBrincat but at that size you just aren't going to know until they hit the pros.

From watching teams that regularly make Cup runs size can really matter and defense is a position where I would not be drafting a sub 6' player in this draft. It's one thing if there were someone like a Hutson but I don't see a player like that coming out of this particular draft.

For the Rangers in this draft---if we're picking 9 guys I'd be kind of aiming at 4 defensemen anyway and I'd be drafting some bigger players. I think the last few drafts drafting bigger has kind of paid off for us.
Schmidt absolutely sucks in my opinion. Watched him in person a few times with the Giants and he plays such a selfish and not-NHL style of game. I don't think I've ever seen a highly touted prospect look like their game would translate worse than his does. I would be absolutely shocked if he were to ever become an NHL player.
 

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