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According to Bob's rankings, we are well and truly screwed: Hagens, Martin, McQueen, Eklund and Smith all going between 7-12. Aitcheson, Bear and Carbonneau all available. I might just go with Reschny in that scenario. Detroit's NA scouts will never do that, we're probably going to pick a guy like Nesbitt or Cootes.
 
According to Bob's rankings, we are well and truly screwed: Hagens, Martin, McQueen, Eklund and Smith all going between 7-12. Aitcheson, Bear and Carbonneau all available. I might just go with Reschny in that scenario. Detroit's NA scouts will never do that, we're probably going to pick a guy like Nesbitt or Cootes.
The draft never goes that chalk, and this one especially probably won’t.
 
Bob's list is based on his contacs to various scouts right? That could be good for us. One can deduce, that dmen are rising in the estimation of teams and that some of them will even go higher than this and push into the top ten.
Its based off 10 scouts lists ... for sure a Dman or two will likely jump into the top 10 if we stay at 13 I’d suspect we get a Dman but I wouldn’t be against trading up this year ... I know it’s only Frank seravalli but I was watching mock trade proposals and he seems to think Berggren and Rasmussen have value 😂 if there’s gms out there feeling the same I’d move one to move up 4-5 spots for a O’Brien,mcqueen,hagens if one of thems there and someone bites
 
According to Bob's rankings, we are well and truly screwed: Hagens, Martin, McQueen, Eklund and Smith all going between 7-12. Aitcheson, Bear and Carbonneau all available. I might just go with Reschny in that scenario. Detroit's NA scouts will never do that, we're probably going to pick a guy like Nesbitt or Cootes.
This is the year to move the pick or trade up
 
I’m just thinking. I’ve never seen either one of these players but at 13 if we want a big centre why not West. He’s trending up quite a bit in the draft. Now he’s a possible late first rounder by most rankings I’ve seen lately. Even if McQueen is there why not take him. McQueen has the injury and doesn’t seem overly physical according to some posters. I don’t think West would be there at 44. I would like Nestrasil or Rombach in the second but I think they are gone now too
 
Alright! Nesbitt finally getting the recognition he deserves. Plays very mature game for a player his age and when you add that size AND growth room in that package, WOW!

Time for inspirational quote:

"Ice hockey is a game that consists of a series of small games. Face off is a small game, board battle is a small game, battle in the crease is a small game. Forechecking is a small game and by winning all the small games, you end up winning the big game."

Nesbitt is there to win the small games. Nesbitt 2025.
 
Sounds like Bob’s top 8 was darn near consensus. I had a significant tier break after them aswell.

Would be shocked if any of those 8 fall outside the top 10 (Schaefer, Misa, Martone, Frondell, O’Brien, Desnoyers, Hagens, Martin) .

But after that It sounds like there are a lot more varying opinions and things could go a lot of different ways.

So I think it’s fair to envision scenarios where anybody outside those top 8 are available at 13.
 
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Alright! Nesbitt finally getting the recognition he deserves. Plays very mature game for a player his age and when you add that size AND growth room in that package, WOW!

Time for inspirational quote:

"Ice hockey is a game that consists of a series of small games. Face off is a small game, board battle is a small game, battle in the crease is a small game. Forechecking is a small game and by winning all the small games, you end up winning the big game."

Nesbitt is there to win the small games. Nesbitt 2025.
Helps if you can score goals as well. From what I understand both of Nesbitt's line mates outscored him. I'm preparing myself for us to pick him, he'll be irresistible to our NA scouts, particularly if Eklund is taken before the #13 pick.
 
My biggest issue with Nesbitt is the value proposition. I would be fine with him in round 2, and I just don't think he is considerably better than guys you could probably get in round 2 or 3.

That would be quite the ballsy pick. He did have a pretty significant development curve uptick over the last 12 months. He would need to improve his skating a lot for me, and I am hesitant to pick a guy like that at 13. I have also seen VERY different opinions on his skill level. I believe EP, HP, and Button all have him ranked outside their top 32.

Not sure I can remember a NA player where the league seemed this much higher on him that the public scouting services.
 
According to Bob's rankings, we are well and truly screwed: Hagens, Martin, McQueen, Eklund and Smith all going between 7-12. Aitcheson, Bear and Carbonneau all available. I might just go with Reschny in that scenario. Detroit's NA scouts will never do that, we're probably going to pick a guy like Nesbitt or Cootes.
Reschny would be such a genuinely disappointing pick at 13. I will never understand this boards infatuation with him. Someone explain to me the appeal of undersized forwards who aren't plus skaters. At some point people should start to recognize Brayden Point as the unicorn that he is. After watching the Stanley Cup final I don't see much room in the game for the Reschnys of the world. Things may have been different when the league still had immobile defensemen. I just don't see it in the modern game though.
 
Helps if you can score goals as well. From what I understand both of Nesbitt's line mates outscored him. I'm preparing myself for us to pick him, he'll be irresistible to our NA scouts, particularly if Eklund is taken before the #13 pick.
Yes thats the point in that quote, you always end up having the puck. You can score then, when you have the puck. ;)
 
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Hensler or Nesbitt at #13 are like the only scenarios I am actively rooting against. Would be good with a wide range of other options, including trading the pick.
What is it you don't like about Hensler? I believe he çShould be better than Atchison or Smith
 
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I’m just thinking. I’ve never seen either one of these players but at 13 if we want a big centre why not West. He’s trending up quite a bit in the draft. Now he’s a possible late first rounder by most rankings I’ve seen lately. Even if McQueen is there why not take him. McQueen has the injury and doesn’t seem overly physical according to some posters. I don’t think West would be there at 44. I would like Nestrasil or Rombach in the second but I think they are gone now too
Mentioned before I'd consider trading back a few times and take west. Still 17 6'6 already pure athlete ... lots of upside

We need to take risks and we have guys we like in our pool but buchelnikov lombardi plante etc aren't big guys

If not that way I'd consider finding someone we can get to take Rasmussen for a late 1st early 2nd to get him with that pick or trading up again to land him... McLeod was dealt for a 1st rd prospect and maybe we can convince ppl hes 6'6 so hes worth it

Zharovsky is another one so I'm hoping we can land another pick
 
My biggest issue with Nesbitt is the value proposition. I would be fine with him in round 2, and I just don't think he is considerably better than guys you could probably get in round 2 or 3.

That would be quite the ballsy pick. He did have a pretty significant development curve uptick over the last 12 months. He would need to improve his skating a lot for me, and I am hesitant to pick a guy like that at 13. I have also seen VERY different opinions on his skill level. I believe EP, HP, and Button all have him ranked outside their top 32.

Not sure I can remember a NA player where the league seemed this much higher on him that the public scouting services.
The fact Bob has him ranked at 17 is telling. If you've followed our NA scouting, particularly in the first round, they love to take fliers on big forwards with questionable skill.
 
What is it you don't like about Hensler? I believe he çShould be better than Atchison or Smith
Super vanilla, and I don't think he has the best IQ.

I don't see the point in drafting a vanilla RD. He is not going to supplant Seider or ASP. So you are drafting a guy to play 18 min on the 3rd pair? Like he would do fine with that probably. But what's the point?
 
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The fact Bob has him ranked at 17 is telling. If you've followed our NA scouting, particularly in the first round, they love to take fliers on big forwards with questionable skill.
I'd like to believe that was driven by Tyler Wright and is no longer the case as much. But Draper was around during those days too, so can't say for sure.

When I look at our picks since 2020, not sure I see anyone like Nesbitt?
 
Super vanilla, and I don't think he has the best IQ.

I don't see the point in drafting a vanilla RD. He is not going to supplant Sedier or ASP. So you are drafting a guy to play 18 min on the 3rd pair? Like he would do fine with that probably. But what's the point?
One of the best skaters , unlike Smith or Atchison playing sound defense. Don't forget he played against older players , in much faster environment. It's not like he's the guy for me , but it's one of those I I would not be complained if we take him, same as Reschny
 
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